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November 26, 2013, 10:01:01 PM |
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I'm spending my 10k$ on crack and hookers  |
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CoinGeneral
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November 26, 2013, 10:03:37 PM |
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Here's the plan of KNC Miner company: Step 1) Sell ridiculously overpriced hardware that won't ROI the buyer Step 2) Use that money to make more hardware for ourselves Step 3) Make a thousand hundred million of these machines and mine BTC for ourselves Step 4)  Step 5) MONOPOLY But not really. They have competition against the other companies as well, so it's whichever company emerges on top that becomes the monopoly. |
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tex4ever
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November 26, 2013, 11:26:25 PM |
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Sorry guys, but this is the reason why American people pay 23000 Dollars at ebay for Jupiters and Germans only 10000 Dollars. You are not able to think into the future. And by the way, this is the reason, why the bitcoin is now 1000 Dollars worth, because all the American people are not able to calulcate, just want to have the money. All Jupiters will be late Q1 worth like a BFL Jalapeno -> nothing -> so they will stop working.... All Saturns, Mercurys, Avalons, Bitburners also... Only Cointerra, BFL Monarch and KnC Neptune will be the winners -> so it will be the same like now with the Jupiters. Everybody will say: What the fuck: 1000 Dollars? What the fuck: 23000 Dolars for a Jupiter, it was 5000 Dollars in the November preorder??? LOL, you guys will see...bitcoin is making crazy everybody, or did you imagine that a fucking nothing will be worth 1000 Dollars? So why not the Neptune.... |
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November 26, 2013, 11:29:02 PM |
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I'm sure there will be no profit in this setup. Sure there will. I can guarantee you KnC will make a very nice profit from these. |
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rampalija
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November 26, 2013, 11:30:38 PM |
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it would be nice to have one of those miners right now  |
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tex4ever
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November 26, 2013, 11:41:34 PM |
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My motto: When everybody is against an approach, the approach is right. ;-)
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rampalija
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November 26, 2013, 11:44:06 PM |
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This price sucks! It should be price calculated to deliver same btc/usd as a Jupiter did when they were released. This has no chance, unless btc is going to 3k each in a few months...
crappy... KNC were the leaders in price/performance, now there just cashing in like the rest. Why is the motto now that only HW manufactures are allowed to make any money in bitcoin mining?
+1 I'm also out.. too expensive. It 'll never going to ROI ! KnC is a capitalist company focused only on profit. It doesn't support open source projects.. They never showed us respect for being "valuable customers" any single time. They have been taking advantage on us with their high marketing skills since the first day. it could ROI if you can get it tommorow |
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CMMPro
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November 26, 2013, 11:54:20 PM |
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There is literally no permutation of the mining calculator that turns a profit with these units.
They are completely off their rocker this time.
These won't make a profit if they are delivered by April and cost only $1000.
I would say based on their past performance of June-Oct (5 months), that April is realistic for delivery.
This is why they have Q1/Q2 delivery listed.
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skleven
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November 26, 2013, 11:55:29 PM |
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That was kida expencive when shipping may be as late as june...  I`ll build my own bitcoin-miner.. with blackjack.. and hookers.. in fact.. forget the miner! |
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rampalija
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November 27, 2013, 12:01:40 AM |
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That was kida expencive when shipping may be as late as june... I`ll build my own bitcoin-miner.. with blackjack.. and hookers.. in fact.. forget the miner! hahaha and some texas holdem poker |
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tacotime
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November 27, 2013, 12:04:17 AM |
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I'm sure there will be no profit in this setup. Sure there will. I can guarantee you KnC will make a very nice profit from these. |
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rampalija
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November 27, 2013, 12:11:04 AM |
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I'm sure there will be no profit in this setup. Sure there will. I can guarantee you KnC will make a very nice profit from these. loool |
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johnyj
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November 27, 2013, 12:17:30 AM |
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I'm thinking that maybe it is a good idea to get a fiat loan for the miner, and hold the bitcoin at mean time
Of course I can also purchase the coin directly with the loan, but to be able to play around with 3TH next year will be fun
However, the power consumption is really a concern, only data center have that kind of capacity, special line have to be arranged for that rig in normal apartment, and the cable might catch fire if other electronic devices are also running
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November 27, 2013, 12:31:09 AM |
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However, the power consumption is really a concern, only data center have that kind of capacity, special line have to be arranged for that rig in normal apartment, and the cable might catch fire if other electronic devices are also running
Did they say it's only one power supply? I would think it would just be two power supplies. |
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johnyj
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November 27, 2013, 12:41:18 AM |
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However, the power consumption is really a concern, only data center have that kind of capacity, special line have to be arranged for that rig in normal apartment, and the cable might catch fire if other electronic devices are also running
Did they say it's only one power supply? I would think it would just be two power supplies. Or maybe 3. In my newly built apartment (2011), one single power line is 10A at 230V, which makes it 2300W maximum (except for the kitchen where one line can have 16A maximum). And, all the devices added together should not be over 25A, otherwise the main circuit break will be triggered. This means anytime I'm cooking or washing the cloth at the same time, I might need to shut down the mining rig |
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November 27, 2013, 12:47:02 AM |
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The fact that people preorder this things in dozens, so it can be delivered to them after 5 months, really beats me.  5 months is like 50 years in crypto currency time... |
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November 27, 2013, 12:50:54 AM |
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The fact that people preorder this things in dozens, so it can be delivered to them after 5 months, really beats me. 5 months is like 50 years in crypto currency time... agreed. knc probably miscalculated on this offer eventhough i agree they are one of the more reliable asic sellers out there. my feeling is that the difficulty will rise beyond belief by then. |
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rampalija
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November 27, 2013, 08:05:44 AM |
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The fact that people preorder this things in dozens, so it can be delivered to them after 5 months, really beats me. 5 months is like 50 years in crypto currency time... 500 years if you ask me |
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SlyFoxy12
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November 27, 2013, 09:41:16 AM |
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The fact that people preorder this things in dozens, so it can be delivered to them after 5 months, really beats me. 5 months is like 50 years in crypto currency time... agreed. knc probably miscalculated on this offer eventhough i agree they are one of the more reliable asic sellers out there. my feeling is that the difficulty will rise beyond belief by then. Will it though, who else is putting miners reliably out there which as much power as KnC's first gen models let alone with plans for new devices that compare to their second gen models like neptune? |
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