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November 27, 2013, 03:06:25 AM
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I hear many people say Bitcoin is anonymous, but it's not.
Your wallet is anonymous but if you look all of transaction you can find information!

I watch a block find in one of my pool,
block Number : 271680  
Block contain inventory of Hash propagation it's the most important;

https://blockchain.info/fr/inv/0000000000000006ea5689b00623203707bbe1e48cdc70777164ee6d57ebb93e

On this inventory we have all adress share, hash something on the block.
After some fun, i watch the personn who Hashed the more;  38% -    IP : 5.9.24.81

With my "Cmd" I track this adress, using trilatération  AND......... Latitude, longitude, go to google Map and have an adresse!


°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°  °°°°°°°°
Manezhnaya , N°11  
Moskva, 101000 ‎ Russia

Never say bitcoin is anonimous ^^


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November 27, 2013, 04:01:51 AM
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November 27, 2013, 05:51:20 AM
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What did God create VPNs for?

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November 27, 2013, 06:30:06 AM
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What did God create VPNs for?

I find this offensive.  Stop attributing things you don't understand to a god.  There is valid scientific evidence that VPN's are not miracles, but are indeed of this world.

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November 27, 2013, 06:55:50 AM
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What did God create VPNs for?

Or people use tor.

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November 27, 2013, 07:21:37 AM
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Or simply go to a spot with public wifi and broadcast their signed tx there.
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November 27, 2013, 07:29:36 AM
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bitcoin does not force identification EG requesting utility bills and photo ID when opening the bitcoin-QT client (unlike FIAT bank accounts) but if you want to be untraceable, atleast hide your IP and dont throw your addresses into the footer of forum messages etc.

because thats as bad as "anonymous" making a video wearing the mask then at the end not editing out the bit where they left the camera running, taking off their mask and then mentioning identifiable information to other people in the household.

your only as anonymous as your own stupidity/cleverness to conceal yourself.

and speaking about the other anonymous - the group of hackers are anonymous until they appear on documentaries with their names showing on the banner across the bottom of the TV screen. ( it has happened )

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November 27, 2013, 07:32:08 AM
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No one can prove that sender is near node IP...
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November 27, 2013, 01:01:42 PM
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with a budget I can prove it ... can be.
I is not done this deed in order to unmasked anyone, but to show how it can be easy with a bit of time to find that sharing on the bitcoin network, or sells wind in bitcointalk.
FRANKIE :::
I'm not an "Anonimous" I do not do that to destabilize someone.

Bitcoin network is Open-source anybody can do that,   VPN is good but a lot of people avent got one.
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November 27, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
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Or simply go to a spot with public wifi and broadcast their signed tx there.

Blockchain.info logs the ip address that relayed first the transaction to them. That means nothing about who actually did the transaction.
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November 27, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
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with a full analysis of the block and the pool hashing blok   it can be found
it's not a secret;
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November 27, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
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when someone calls bitcoin anonymous, i automatically think "noob".

i heard henry blodget of Business Insider fame say it today. it made me want to cry. hopefully he's google a google alert on his name and he sees this -- and never says it again.
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November 27, 2013, 10:01:30 PM
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What did God create VPNs for?

I find this offensive.  Stop attributing things you don't understand to a god.  There is valid scientific evidence that VPN's are not miracles, but are indeed of this world.
Offensive? Huh, that's weird.
If used correctly, and if you use more of them, you should be okay.

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November 27, 2013, 11:57:42 PM
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Or simply go to a spot with public wifi and broadcast their signed tx there.

Blockchain.info logs the ip address that relayed first the transaction to them. That means nothing about who actually did the transaction.

Exactly what he said. 
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November 28, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
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I hear many people say Bitcoin is anonymous, but it's not.
Your wallet is anonymous but if you look all of transaction you can find information!

I watch a block find in one of my pool,
block Number : 271680  
Block contain inventory of Hash propagation it's the most important;

https://blockchain.info/fr/inv/0000000000000006ea5689b00623203707bbe1e48cdc70777164ee6d57ebb93e

On this inventory we have all adress share, hash something on the block.
After some fun, i watch the personn who Hashed the more;  38% -    IP : 5.9.24.81

With my "Cmd" I track this adress, using trilatération  AND......... Latitude, longitude, go to google Map and have an adresse!


°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°  °°°°°°°°
Manezhnaya , N°11  
Moskva, 101000 ‎ Russia

Never say bitcoin is anonimous ^^


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which address did you track?  5.9.24.81 is in Germany, not Russia

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November 28, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
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I've just checked some of my transaction to confirm this. The IP shown in every one of my transactions (incoming and outgoing) isn't mine, nor was it close to me.

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November 29, 2013, 07:32:27 AM
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Bitcoin vulnerabilities:

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b. Not anonymous, very easy to identify all the users in order to tax and clawback. People are ignorant of the vulnerabilites of Tor, VPNs. Mixers are nonsense without widespread strong IP anonymity and some way to be sure spenders aren't revealing their identities to vendors, because they can be honeypotted and over time you are discovered probabilistically as the others in the mixers screw up and revealed their identities in the downstream chains of the coins. The problem of taint is huge, because if the government knows the identity of just one person in the chain of the coin's history, it can compel that person to be responsible for all activity on the coin backwards and forwards in all time, until that person reveals the identities and transactions from whom the coin was purchased and spent to.

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If we can remove the public-backstop from loans and remove insurance (that ends up as public-backstop), then they can loan at higher interest than the debasement/demurrage and still they will not grow exponentially forever, because they will pay for their failures in lending to those who can't repay.

Thus in my opinion, the key is removing the ability for the collective to tax and confiscate. That is the only way to end the public backstop and force the selfish hoarders to be subject to the free market.

This is why anonymity is the most important feature in my opinion. But this will only be realistic for the new virtual economy. Yet I expect that to be the main economy now or for sure by 2033 when a recent Oxford study predicts 45% of all current jobs will have been replaced by automation.

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November 29, 2013, 10:32:50 AM
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I've just checked some of my transaction to confirm this. The IP shown in every one of my transactions (incoming and outgoing) isn't mine, nor was it close to me.

This is what happens in most cases. I have yet to see one of my transactions actually being logged with my ip from blockchain.info. That's why the ip logging has no value whatsoever (maybe it has some statistical value though)
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November 29, 2013, 10:39:56 AM
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I've just checked some of my transaction to confirm this. The IP shown in every one of my transactions (incoming and outgoing) isn't mine, nor was it close to me.

This is what happens in most cases. I have yet to see one of my transactions actually being logged with my ip from blockchain.info. That's why the ip logging has no value whatsoever (maybe it has some statistical value though)
I think that only a small percentage of transactions might have logged the IP of the sender.

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November 29, 2013, 10:49:56 AM
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I've just checked some of my transaction to confirm this. The IP shown in every one of my transactions (incoming and outgoing) isn't mine, nor was it close to me.

This is what happens in most cases. I have yet to see one of my transactions actually being logged with my ip from blockchain.info. That's why the ip logging has no value whatsoever (maybe it has some statistical value though)

The government spy agencies may know the IP you sent the transactions from. Depends how expert your Tor/VPN-foo is and some luck.

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