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November 28, 2013, 03:30:02 PM
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First time BC investor here.

I got a bit of money ready to invest, but I'm wondering whether I should buy now or wait a bit. From years of investing into stocks and other assets, I have a bit of a feeling how it all works and what charts can tell us. The current chart looks really crazy, no doubt about it, and if it was a stock, I would almost certainly wait.

However, BC seems to be about to make its way into the mainstream, it's like a growth stock, its value rising with each bit of trust that is gained, each additional merchant accepting it, every single day that it is rising in price and still staying in existence without major problems.

To wait or to buy, that is the question - your thoughts?

I'm especially curious about the opinion of people who have been INVESTED in BC for 1+ year!
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November 28, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
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I'd wait a few days before investing now, it's likely that the price may drop quite a bit like when it hit $900, but you never know.

How much have you got to invest? I'd recommend trying out a few alt currencies first to get you started and to play around with. You can check the others here: http://coinmarketcap.com/

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November 28, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
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You said you're pretty expert in trading.. therefore you should know that, whatever one of us can tell you, it would be purely speculations.. no one knows!
Moreover the timeframe matters a lot: which is your horizon? A few days investment? Weeks? Years? In the latter case, every moment is good..

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November 28, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
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I fully agree with kik1977. any advice is only an opinion and no one knows the true answer.

I personally think Bitcoin is still very low in price, and it has a long way to go yet... but this is just my opinion based on little more than a "feeling".
Im glad i bought at $100, but like everyone else wish i could have afforded much more! (i still intend to buy more too)

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November 28, 2013, 03:51:57 PM
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I'd wait a few days before investing now, it's likely that the price may drop quite a bit like when it hit $900, but you never know.


What do you mean? It hit 1000$, I believe yesterday.

Thanks, I will play around with a small amount of BC instead of with alt coins. It will be about 5% of the amount I own.

Once it goes up 1000% (if it does), I will sell 10% and thus take off the table what I put into it. That way I can't go below 0 (if I never invest again).
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November 28, 2013, 03:54:17 PM
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I expected a drop at 1000, and it didn't. As we speak we are jumping again, mtgox past 1200. If you are going long, I advise to buy now about 20% of the total sum you are willing to invest.

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November 28, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
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You said you're pretty expert in trading.. therefore you should know that, whatever one of us can tell you, it would be purely speculations.. no one knows!
Moreover the timeframe matters a lot: which is your horizon? A few days investment? Weeks? Years? In the latter case, every moment is good..

I'm far from an expert, and even very good people have a very tough time getting the timing right.

Time frame: Good point, I should have mentioned it's long term. I don't care how long I have to hold, and I'm convinced it will either go to the sky or to 0. If it goes to the sky first, and then later to 0, that's bad for BC, but for my investment it's kind of ok too...

So I have the feeling you are right, almost every moment is good, untill it goes to 0, it will go up, up, up...
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November 28, 2013, 03:58:13 PM
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I expected a drop at 1000, and it didn't. As we speak we are jumping again, mtgox past 1200. If you are going long, I advise to buy now about 20% of the total sum you are willing to invest.

Doing it in chunks is the best way, no doubt about it.
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November 28, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
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[...] I'm convinced it will either go to the sky or to 0.

Those are my thoughts exactly - it's just knowing when the sky is at its highest that is the key. Good luck!
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November 28, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
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Be patient, easier said than done

Scale in gradually if you can wait

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November 28, 2013, 04:28:27 PM
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I'd wait a few days before investing now, it's likely that the price may drop quite a bit like when it hit $900, but you never know.


What do you mean? It hit 1000$, I believe yesterday

BTC hit an all-time high of $900 a couple of weeks ago and people went crazy, then it plummeted in price to $450.

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November 28, 2013, 05:55:52 PM
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Bitcoin is highly speculative, so you should be willing to lose all. Personally, I believe the current prices are too high and forward looking. Long term, I think the prices are very low.

I am day trading (wish I held my initial 30 bitcoin, but whatever… not the end of the world).

I have a CampBX and MtGox account. I trade on both. Most of my money is in CampBX (75%). What I do is watch the spread between Gox and BX… when the spread is very wide, I buy on CampBX and immediately list my BTC for what I think should be the correct price. Basically, for a long while there was a $20 spread. Now I am seeing $200 spreads… so, I allow a $100 spread as reasonable. This morning I bought 3.7 BTC at exactly $1000/BTC. MtGox was at $1200. So I am selling (waiting) on BX at $1099). I keep an eye on the market and will adjust my ask price if it seems reasonable.

As for my MtGox buy/sell… prices drop very fast, so I wait those out and try to buy low. In and out as quickly as possible. When in doubt, I stay in a cash position on both exchanges.

I have to say - we all look smart with the prices going up and up…. I could easily be holding 3.7 BTC and the price could drop hundreds in a matter of seconds. In fact, this has happened and I held till the price came back. I believe in the long term BTC will go much higher so I am not too worried. And again… it is speculation. I won't be hurt if it goes to zero.
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November 28, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
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Bitcoin is highly speculative, so you should be willing to lose all. Personally, I believe the current prices are too high and forward looking. Long term, I think the prices are very low.

I am day trading (wish I held my initial 30 bitcoin, but whatever… not the end of the world).

I have a CampBX and MtGox account. I trade on both. Most of my money is in CampBX (75%). What I do is watch the spread between Gox and BX… when the spread is very wide, I buy on CampBX and immediately list my BTC for what I think should be the correct price. Basically, for a long while there was a $20 spread. Now I am seeing $200 spreads… so, I allow a $100 spread as reasonable. This morning I bought 3.7 BTC at exactly $1000/BTC. MtGox was at $1200. So I am selling (waiting) on BX at $1099). I keep an eye on the market and will adjust my ask price if it seems reasonable.

I have to say - we all look smart with the prices going up and up…. I could easily be holding 3.7 BTC and the price could drop hundreds in a matter of seconds. In fact, this has happened and I held till the price came back. I believe in the long term BTC will go much higher so I am not too worried. And again… it is speculation. I won't be hurt if it goes to zero.

Interesting game there with the spreads. It surprises me that this is even possible.

You should prepared for them to go to 0 anytime, agreed.

For how long have you been owning BCs? When do you think the price could come back a bit - this year, next year?
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November 28, 2013, 06:17:33 PM
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Dollar cost average

Bitcoin is wild, but you can always get a good price if you spread out your buys over a couple months.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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November 28, 2013, 06:24:04 PM
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invested here for several years. Now is a good time to buy a small portion of what you wanted to invest, most probably it is going up. There is, however, a large chance of upcoming correction from somewhere around $2000 to somewhere around 300-1000, and that should be where you should buy the rest of the coins. It takes balls to catch a falling bitcoin though, it can be violent and scary, so you need to have money at exchanges and orders ready beforehand - manual would not do it.

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November 28, 2013, 06:31:44 PM
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From my experience, ask yourself this: how much free time do you have and how much of that time are you willing to spend price checking and waiting for the "right" time to buy in?

After spending lots of time waiting I decided buy in a while ago and I can tell you it is a wonderful feeling to not have to keep checking for the right time to buy. Whether it goes up or down, you are only investing what you can afford to lose (right?) so you can simply sit back and enjoy the ride.
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November 28, 2013, 06:40:47 PM
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Bitcoin is highly speculative, so you should be willing to lose all. Personally, I believe the current prices are too high and forward looking. Long term, I think the prices are very low.

I am day trading (wish I held my initial 30 bitcoin, but whatever… not the end of the world).

……. etc

Interesting game there with the spreads. It surprises me that this is even possible.

You should prepared for them to go to 0 anytime, agreed.

For how long have you been owning BCs? When do you think the price could come back a bit - this year, next year?

I got wind of Bitcoin in March 2013. I created an exchange by June (I'm a programmer and I work for a stock exchange) but it is not live due to the fact that it's hard to meet the regulatory requirements. I bought my first BTC on CampBX in June with $3k - 30 Bitcoins. I held all the way into Sept and then thought that maybe I should trade on the volatility - an unfortunate decision. Still, I am making money. I also funded my MtGox account with Bitcoin so I can trade on there as well (knowing full well if I want to cash out I have to take a slight loss from the MtGox to CampBX conversion).

I do think we will see a price drop soon ONLY if there is no new good news.

The big events I am waiting for are a company like Alibaba.com accepting Bitcoin or a dollar crash - either will send the price way high. Alibaba is a large China wholesale business. Lot's of US based small businesses buy products there and obviously there is a huge cost built into the currency conversion. If they were to accept Bitcoin it would offer great savings to businesses and Bitcoin would gain a lot more users (people who actually spend BTC).
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November 28, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
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In the time it took me to make my last post, MtGox price dropped $75. What a crazy market… I love it Smiley
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November 28, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
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Simple approach
Buy a bit now, wait a week buy a bit, wait a week, etc.
Once you have some profit you can ease in more money because your more confident and you didn't buy in a local high.

Or the YOLO! approach
 - Go to the bank
 - Max out on a personal loan
 - Go ALL-IN in Bitcoin
 - Wait a month
 - Pull out your personal loan amount and pay back bank + keep profit
 - (alternative outcome) Bitcoin crashes and your the banks bitch or go to jail Tongue

Bitcoin is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get !!
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November 28, 2013, 06:51:41 PM
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From my experience, ask yourself this: how much free time do you have and how much of that time are you willing to spend price checking and waiting for the "right" time to buy in?

After spending lots of time waiting I decided buy in a while ago and I can tell you it is a wonderful feeling to not have to keep checking for the right time to buy. Whether it goes up or down, you are only investing what you can afford to lose (right?) so you can simply sit back and enjoy the ride.

I think your approach is correct. Honestly, I stay in a cash position and buy in when I feel like trading - and then get out as quickly as possible. If there is a strong price drop, I will buy and hold. It's all good… having fun doing it.
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