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November 29, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
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no i had firewall. antivirus, vpn, and i surf standard on proxy. so in my mind i am anonymous.... but guess not. going to buy avalon in hand tomorrow for a good price. hope to mine back what i lost. and this time cold storage. i guess no online wallet is secure enought any tips what which one is the best? and how to combine it with deposit to other people when i want to spend??


armory is supposedly the best, but i didn't need the extra features so i like electrum.
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November 29, 2013, 12:39:38 AM
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i don't run anti-virus software.. damn shit is a nuisance

just remember that java is evil
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November 29, 2013, 12:42:39 AM
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i don't run anti-virus software.. damn shit is a nuisance

just remember that java is evil

i use norton internet security and it doesn't bother me much. i have no idea whether it's of any use to me though.
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November 29, 2013, 01:22:34 AM
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no i had firewall. antivirus, vpn, and i surf standard on proxy. so in my mind i am anonymous.... but guess not. going to buy avalon in hand tomorrow for a good price. hope to mine back what i lost. and this time cold storage. i guess no online wallet is secure enough. any tips what cold wallet is the best? and how to combine it with deposit to other people when i want to spend??


Which anti-virus software do you use?. McAfee and Norton are pretty much crap imho, heavy resource hungry rubbish who's realtime protection is meh.  I use ESET Nod32, very cpu/memory efficient, very good at blocking anything dodgy, especially when surfing different websites soon as it sniffs out something dodgy, be it a dodgy page or a dodgy ad it blocks it and lets you know.

Speaking of ads, its defo worth using adblock plus in whatever browser you use, not only does it get rid of annoying ads, but also blocks off ads with malicious code.

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November 29, 2013, 02:44:38 AM
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Be smart with your shit. You had a keylogger and rat clearly on your shit. That is your fault. You can put all the security you want on anything but the best security is your brain.


But I don't mean to be hard on you, I went through something very very similar. Lost 3 bitcoins within the first month of me buying them many months ago due to my wallet.dat file being straight up stolen.

How was your wallet stolen? It would help us noobies if you expanded answers so others can learn from others mistakes. No?  Huh

Well the wallet is a file called wallet.dat in your appdata folder (Windows vista, 7, Cool and it can be taken if you're dumb enough to get some malware. It can be used on any computer without a problem if taken. They copied mine and deleted I guess. Such a pain in the ass.

Just know this, NO anti-virus is perfect. None. Viruses can be encrypted to go pass the virus scanner. I find them stupid anyway since the greatest anti-virus is your brain. I mean some things will just happen by accident like ransomware on a shitty torrent site or something but I rather not spend the $10(?) a month for something I feel is useless if you're smart.
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November 29, 2013, 03:07:30 AM
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reinstall OS
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November 29, 2013, 03:32:03 AM
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Sounds like a key logger but who knows sorry for the loss

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November 29, 2013, 04:02:49 AM
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put linux on a sd card or usb and format it so you run it off the removable device. Can use any wallet client. Make the wallet offline, write down address.

don't plug in your removable device in unless computer is off, make a copy of it on a fresh install of linux and keep 2nd copy in a bank deposit box or a very safe place.

use that address to receive pool payouts, lock that address to your pool acc (slush pool offers this).

only log in and connect to internet to make a transfer.
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November 29, 2013, 05:41:12 AM
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just now 1.49 BTC was stolen from me. this is why bitcoin is not safe.

my account was on blockchain. i had a very long password with randomized characters letters capital and so own.
i had google authenticator. and yet they compromised 1.49 btc(all my bitcoins)

im fuking sad. i feel lik the bitcoin world spit me out like a loser.....


Sorry for your loss.
Most like a keylogger that takes your password.

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November 29, 2013, 10:24:18 AM
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I have lost over 9 btc a month ago, i cried, now i have less than 0.1 i was "lucky" to have that much in another wallet in another PC, but what can you do besides cry?  Cry
Lost? How?

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November 29, 2013, 12:04:26 PM
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OP you should reinstall OS ASAP to avoid other personal stuff of yours to be compromised. Also, be warned the hacker knows all your mail passwords by now, so change them all.

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November 29, 2013, 01:29:07 PM
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I always use linux, maybe it had something to do with me logging with Windows and next thing you know, someone moved my bitcoin to another address. I dont know how the hell that happened, I used blockchain.info... it starting to make me feel like blockchain.info aint safe at all
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November 29, 2013, 01:38:05 PM
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sorry dude,
newbie here so I'm very interested in this subject
i have a blockchain wallet as well but i just downloaded multibit0.5.15 for windows and am going to try that...any BTC veterans have any better tested ways of keeping an offline wallet or cold storage would be greatly appreciated

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November 29, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
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sorry dude,
newbie here so I'm very interested in this subject
i have a blockchain wallet as well but i just downloaded multibit0.5.15 for windows and am going to try that...any BTC veterans have any better tested ways of keeping an offline wallet or cold storage would be greatly appreciated
Paper wallet or make a few backups of wallet.dat on a few USB sticks.

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November 29, 2013, 01:59:39 PM
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As a newbie this is all very interesting stuff to me. i feel glad that i use linux now hearing all there's horror stories.....hope it all goes well for you dude. Cool
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November 29, 2013, 02:07:29 PM
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So actually your wallet was not stolen, but some got access to your blockchain account and transferred all BTC from that wallet to another one.
Copying the wallet.dat to USB sticks does not change anything if the coins remain on an online account which is hackable/sniffable/compromiseable, etc...

For me it looks also like an attack for key logger or DNS spoofing. Your PC may be infected and other things you're doing with authentication your PC may be in danger.

Reinstall and check carefully what you're restoring (if you do so)
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November 29, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
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So actually your wallet was not stolen, but some got access to your blockchain account and transferred all BTC from that wallet to another one.
Copying the wallet.dat to USB sticks does not change anything if the coins remain on an online account which is hackable/sniffable/compromiseable, etc...

For me it looks also like an attack for key logger or DNS spoofing. Your PC may be infected and other things you're doing with authentication your PC may be in danger.

Reinstall and check carefully what you're restoring (if you do so)
Why would you backup an empty wallet, or why would you backup your wallet.dat if you're using an online wallet?
Please re-read everything about bitcoin, before posting again. I doubt that you've correctly understood how everything works.

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November 29, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
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Why would you backup an empty wallet, or why would you backup your wallet.dat if you're using an online wallet?
That's what I wanted to say. Thanks for the words.
PS: I know good how it works. Don't get me wrong, just because I registered now on bitcointalk does not mean that I had nothing to do with BTC until now  Wink So long...
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Why would you backup an empty wallet, or why would you backup your wallet.dat if you're using an online wallet?
That's what I wanted to say. Thanks for the words.
PS: I know good how it works. Don't get me wrong, just because I registered now on bitcointalk does not mean that I had nothing to do with BTC until now  Wink So long...
You've expressed you're yourself very wrongly.
Keeping your BTC on your PC and then storing them offline is your safest bet.

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November 29, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
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Why would you backup an empty wallet, or why would you backup your wallet.dat if you're using an online wallet?
That's what I wanted to say. Thanks for the words.
PS: I know good how it works. Don't get me wrong, just because I registered now on bitcointalk does not mean that I had nothing to do with BTC until now  Wink So long...
You've expressed you're self very wrongly.
Keeping your BTC on your PC and then storing them offline is your safest bet.

it seems like a language barrier lol but if op refers to my post I think thats the safest way to go. Linux and offline unless you need to make transactions. Never plug in your removable device to a computer that is on/running windows. Make copies of your removable device on a fresh install on linux. If you need help setting this up PM me
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