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August 07, 2011, 08:11:22 AM
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Hi,

I am using Mac OSX with Snow Leopard (Client 0.3.24) and have this problem:

I received money (checked with Blockexplorer) but it doesn't show in the client.

- all bocks downloaded - check
- rescan - check (sort of)

Here is how I did the rescan:

cd /
cd applications
cd bitcoin
cd bitcoin.app
cd contents
cd macos
./bitcoin -rescan

then it took about 1-2 minutes until the client showed up

=> the missing transaction didn't show up

=> the terminal displayed this message "_createMenuRef called with existing principal MenuRef already associated with menu"


OK, and here is where I am out of my wits...either I did't rescan correctly or the blockchain data is corrupted, right?

How to proceed? (If possible without having to download the entire blockchain again, which would probabely take two days now).

Thanks in advance!



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August 07, 2011, 08:58:03 AM
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- all bocks downloaded - check
how many do you have?

is the tx included in a block?

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August 07, 2011, 10:00:03 AM
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blocks 139952 (i check with BX and Bitcoin Watch) - so no angle

tx is in block 1398xx - so it shoud be included.

BUT I found out something:

the balance is ok, the money just didn't arrive at the right address.

Here's what I found out (in principal):

Sender: Alice
Receiver: Bob

Bob has 5 receiving addresses: a1, a2, a3, a4, a5


Now Alice sends 0.01 to each of bob adresses.

Result: one of Bob's addresses receives 0.05 - all other addresses receive nothing.

Any idea why this is happening ? Maybe because all transaction were made with the same coin on the sending end?

But still...strange

(Actually it was only a test to try out all receiving adresses but this is something I did not see coming...)


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August 07, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
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blocks 139952 (i check with BX and Bitcoin Watch) - so no angle

tx is in block 1398xx - so it shoud be included.

BUT I found out something:

the balance is ok, the money just didn't arrive at the right address.

Here's what I found out (in principal):

Sender: Alice
Receiver: Bob

Bob has 5 receiving addresses: a1, a2, a3, a4, a5


Now Alice sends 0.01 to each of bob adresses.

Result: one of Bob's addresses receives 0.05 - all other addresses receive nothing.

Any idea why this is happening ? Maybe because all transaction were made with the same coin on the sending end?

But still...strange

(Actually it was only a test to try out all receiving adresses but this is something I did not see coming...)


no what you are  talking about is accounts.
coins can't show up at another address.
but all bobs 5 addresses can be in the same account. which means that the addresses behaves like one, when receiving.

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August 07, 2011, 10:09:42 AM
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Bob has 5 receiving addresses: a1, a2, a3, a4, a5

Now Alice sends 0.01 to each of bob adresses.

Result: one of Bob's addresses receives 0.05 - all other addresses receive nothing.

Any idea why this is happening ?
Did you confirm this in block explorer? The client doesn't normally tell you what address received funds.

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Maybe because all transaction were made with the same coin on the sending end?

But still...strange

(Actually it was only a test to try out all receiving adresses but this is something I did not see coming...)
How did you establish they were all received at the same address exactly?

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August 07, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
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Of course I did:

(amounts fictional)

BX says:

a1 received 0.01
a2 received 0.02
a3 received 0.003
a4 received 0.21
a5 received 0.05

(total = 0.293)

Client says:

a3 receives 0.293

a1, a2, a4 and a5 don't show up in the client at all


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August 07, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
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Of course I did:

(amounts fictional)

BX says:

a1 received 0.01
a2 received 0.02
a3 received 0.003
a4 received 0.21
a5 received 0.05

(total = 0.293)

Client says:

a3 receives 0.293

a1, a2, a4 and a5 don't show up in the client at all


somehow i am beginning to thing that you are just want to annoy us.
please give us some real addresses, and txs. so we can figure out what is happening.

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August 07, 2011, 10:36:12 AM
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Of course I did:

(amounts fictional)

BX says:

a1 received 0.01
a2 received 0.02
a3 received 0.003
a4 received 0.21
a5 received 0.05

(total = 0.293)

Client says:

a3 receives 0.293

a1, a2, a4 and a5 don't show up in the client at all


Is 'a1' address 1 or account 1? Where did the client say a3 received 0.293?

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August 07, 2011, 10:43:58 AM
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Of course I did:

(amounts fictional)

BX says:

a1 received 0.01
a2 received 0.02
a3 received 0.003
a4 received 0.21
a5 received 0.05

(total = 0.293)

Client says:

a3 receives 0.293

a1, a2, a4 and a5 don't show up in the client at all


Is 'a1' address 1 or account 1? Where did the client say a3 received 0.293?


a1 to a5 are bitcoin addresses within the same client /wallet

i. e.:
in the standard client you can create addresses you give to people so they can send you money.
Alice sends money to each of Bob's adresses (a1 to a5). Since they belong to the same client/wallet the total amount arrives in the client indicating the total amount (sum a1 to a5)  received with address a3 (for example)

I find this strange because it shoud be like

xy btc received with a1
xy btc received with a2 ...and so on.



I don't know what you mean by account regarding bitcoin.

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August 07, 2011, 10:45:24 AM
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I don't know what you mean by account regarding bitcoin.
main problem found!

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August 07, 2011, 10:47:22 AM
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I don't know what you mean by account regarding bitcoin.
main problem found!

very helpful. could you explain what you mean by account instead of being arrogant?

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August 07, 2011, 10:49:02 AM
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I don't know what you mean by account regarding bitcoin.
main problem found!

very helpful. could you explain what you mean by account instead of being arrogant?
are you gonna give us some real info about the problem?

(sorry for being arrogant again)

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I don't know what you mean by account regarding bitcoin.
main problem found!

very helpful. could you explain what you mean by account instead of being arrogant?
are you gonna give us some real info about the problem?

(sorry for being arrogant again)

is this really so hard to understand:


Person A sends m amount to B's first bitcoin address 01
A sends n amount to B's second bitcoin address 02
A sends x amount to B's thirs bitcoin address 03

(which all belong to B's wallet)

my expectation:

Clients shows

m received with address 01
n  received with address 02
x  received with address 03

(this is the way the client shows received payments when the amount were sent from different senders)

INSTEAD:

client shows

(m+n+x) received with address 02

no show of address 01 and address 02 in the client

Strange, isn't it?


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August 07, 2011, 10:59:37 AM
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I don't know what you mean by account regarding bitcoin.
main problem found!

very helpful. could you explain what you mean by account instead of being arrogant?
are you gonna give us some real info about the problem?

(sorry for being arrogant again)

is this really so hard to understand:


Person A sends m amount to B's first bitcoin address 01
A sends n amount to B's second bitcoin address 02
A sends x amount to B's thirs bitcoin address 03

(which all belong to B's wallet)

my expectation:

Clients shows

m received with address 01
n  received with address 02
x  received with address 03

(this is the way the client shows received payments when the amount were sent from different senders)

INSTEAD:

client shows

(m+n+x) received with address 02

no show of address 01 and address 02 in the client

Strange, isn't it?


no not really, IF you are using accounts. and are you sure that A is not sending to the same address?
can you post some screenshots, of A and B client? and also addresses and txs on block explore? it would be much easier to explain it to you if i had them.

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August 07, 2011, 11:45:25 AM
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I've seen the same, and from what I could figure out it occurred with sendmany transactions in which I had multiple receiving addresses, and where the client would display the total received in the tx under one address in the wallet.

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