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November 29, 2013, 09:51:48 AM |
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The chinese government is going to ban all vendors from doing transactions with BTC. Its already in the works, look it up at google.hk Also, alot of you people who have this idea. That bitcoins will be used as a medium for transactions throughout the world are very wrong. FYI- The Internet is about to be broken up, and not interconnected with the world soon. Alot of you members havent heard about this, and the news media hasnt even talked about it. But after the NSA spying scandal. All governments throughtout the world are building there own INTERNET system, seperated from the USA internet. The world wide web will be dismantled in the next.2-3 years, so it will be impossible for BTC to be used from country to country. Each country will control of its own internet. So this dream that BTC will be used for.transactions.everywhere is dead. Souce- http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_10_28/BRICS-countries-are-building-a-new-Internet-hidden-from-NSA-7157/
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November 29, 2013, 10:01:22 AM |
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you are saying that internet will be obsolete. You must be kidding me.
Internet wont go anywhere and no one's going to stop people from internet. It is a basic right.
You can go ahead in believe what you want. But I won't be moved by it.
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November 29, 2013, 10:06:37 AM |
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I can't find anything supporting your claim about the Chinese government banning vendors from using BTC, so you'll have to provide a link. Regarding VC laws - their previous ruling on them was targeted toward a centralized VC which was undermining the Yuan (the Chinese gov't recognized the ban would be effective because they could pressure the issuer, which immediately caved). Bitcoin, a global currency, has a much more dire consequence for the USD than the Yuan, which is probably why the Chinese gov't hasn't done much about Bitcoin (bitcoins still trade at a large premium on Chinese markets, so I guess nobody told them about the ban either). Additionally, it's pretty odd that CCTV, which is obviously closely-watched by government officials, will openly talk about Bitcoin if the Chinese gov't has a hostile attitude toward BTC.
On Internet fragmentation - this is plausible, though there's really no reason to cut off trade of data (the real benefit here is to ditch ICANN, which doesn't require simply disconnecting all other "Internets"). It's also very possible for any country to form their own Bitcoin offshoot. There is no reason North Korea, for example, cannot have NKcoin. Maybe this is no good for the price of bitcoins, but it doesn't impede the move toward virtual currencies at all, and bitcoin may remain as a reserve currency whether the country suffers extreme oppression or not.
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November 29, 2013, 10:20:25 AM |
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Woah what a speculation. I can see the possibility of this happening, but the world has several people who will stop such things from happening. This house has two who will make a gateway to russia and sweden if our access to global internet goes away. Though we have not heard of such news in finland, but related to spying we are building more secure networks for the government and companies. If some country refuses use of some currency they are dumb for not just taxing the currency. If I would run some government I would allow crypto currencies and tax them and sell the coins back to people for receiving the fiat currencies or trade the coins for some countrys currency I could get more than my own.
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November 29, 2013, 10:22:43 AM |
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I can't find anything supporting your claim about the Chinese government banning vendors from using BTC, so you'll have to provide a link. Regarding VC laws - their previous ruling on them was targeted toward a centralized VC which was undermining the Yuan (the Chinese gov't recognized the ban would be effective because they could pressure the issuer, which immediately caved). Bitcoin, a global currency, has a much more dire consequence for the USD than the Yuan, which is probably why the Chinese gov't hasn't done much about Bitcoin (bitcoins still trade at a large premium on Chinese markets, so I guess nobody told them about the ban either). Additionally, it's pretty odd that CCTV, which is obviously closely-watched by government officials, will openly talk about Bitcoin if the Chinese gov't has a hostile attitude toward BTC.
On Internet fragmentation - this is plausible, though there's really no reason to cut off trade of data (the real benefit here is to ditch ICANN, which doesn't require simply disconnecting all other "Internets"). It's also very possible for any country to form their own Bitcoin offshoot. There is no reason North Korea, for example, cannot have NKcoin. Maybe this is no good for the price of bitcoins, but it doesn't impede the move toward virtual currencies at all, and bitcoin may remain as a reserve currency whether the country suffers extreme oppression or not.
Agreed with Kludge here. Chinese government would have done something already about it if it was hostile towards BTC. Internet fragmentation will do no good to the economy of the country. Its actually going to keep the country into dark.
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November 29, 2013, 10:25:09 AM |
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The strong increase in value of the BTC is actually supported by massive investments especially in china. Due to the lack of opportunities as they are common in the western hemisphere a load of Chinese people see BTC as a very attractive capital investment.
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November 29, 2013, 10:27:07 AM |
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Even IF you are absolutely right it doesn't mean we should stop right this moment. According to your "knowledge" we still have 2-3 years... And in China BTC is perhaps the strongest.
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November 29, 2013, 10:31:03 AM |
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If internet goes down, I think Google, facebook and other huge companies need to worry more than us...
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November 29, 2013, 10:32:25 AM |
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Bitcoin will slowly start to become more understood and appreciated overtime. A lot of people are sceptical of it due to it being decentralised and directly traceable. As soon as you tell someone what happened with Silk Road they assume it's sole purpose is to be used as a currency for illegal transactions. Tell that that virgin galactic are accepting it and they think the opposite. I think a lot of people are just confused and don't know what to believe. Now that it has passed the $1000 mark people should start to take it more seriously.
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November 29, 2013, 10:36:36 AM |
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Sounds like something Alex Jones would have ghostwritten for him to sell to the sheep.
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November 29, 2013, 10:39:36 AM |
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The chinese government is going to ban all vendors from doing transactions with BTC. Its already in the works, look it up at google.hk Also, alot of you people who have this idea. That bitcoins will be used as a medium for transactions throughout the world are very wrong. FYI- The Internet is about to be broken up, and not interconnected with the world soon. Alot of you members havent heard about this, and the news media hasnt even talked about it. But after the NSA spying scandal. All governments throughtout the world are building there own INTERNET system, seperated from the USA internet. The world wide web will be dismantled in the next.2-3 years, so it will be impossible for BTC to be used from country to country. Each country will control of its own internet. So this dream that BTC will be used for.transactions.everywhere is dead. Souce- http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_10_28/BRICS-countries-are-building-a-new-Internet-hidden-from-NSA-7157/if the world will not use bitcoin ,send as many as you like to me then 1GexQrcuZ7KtDUUd6dXM8rw9izbntbxiPex
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November 29, 2013, 10:57:01 AM |
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Yeah, kill the internet, good luck...
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November 29, 2013, 11:05:07 AM |
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There are some countries in South America building there own Internet, and China does have many restrictions but its more of an opt out of the Global internet through distrust of the US.
There might be pockets of disconnection (Bolivia just banned McDonalds!!)
If you are in a banned country you could probably find a way around it... mabye?
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November 29, 2013, 11:08:06 AM |
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Good for Bolivia!
All smart people should ban JUNK food like McDonalds and similar...
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November 29, 2013, 11:25:38 AM |
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Dismantling the internet? What absolute piddle. They gonna ban computers next? Countries building their own Intranet is possible and is talked about, but mass adopting it and completely shutting out the net is ridiculous.The governments who control their own intranets will probably just use it to spy on their own people any way.
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November 29, 2013, 12:06:46 PM |
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People here always see one side of the coin (the positive version of Bitcoin). And want to remain blind for the other side. Everything is possible, just think like a corrupt capitalist for a second.
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November 29, 2013, 12:13:01 PM |
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This has been discussed many times.
It is very unlikely, and in any case there only needs to be one node that is connected to both intranets (ie, based on a mesh network, radio transmitter, modem, satellite, etc) that relays blocks and the P2P network can stay together.
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Bitcoin Core developer [PGP] Warning: For most, coin loss is a larger risk than coin theft. A disk can die any time. Regularly back up your wallet through File → Backup Wallet to an external storage or the (encrypted!) cloud. Use a separate offline wallet for storing larger amounts.
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November 29, 2013, 12:16:38 PM |
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World will not last, but changes itself accordingly.
Internet will not be last, changes itself accordingly.
Governments form regulations for proper usage without disturbing the humanity. that's it every government is looking to bring online.
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November 29, 2013, 12:24:09 PM |
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We should buy more BTC if this could happen. If your country dis connect the internet, you still have chance to live well in other country with enough BTC. Otherwise, you are stuck in that place and you can imagine what's the life like without internet. I don't think such a country will allow you bring a lot of cash or gold through the custom. The only bet is BTC.
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