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November 29, 2013, 11:28:17 AM
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I posted the other day about how there should be an option to say no to the 'question' do you want to pay the fee.

I sent bitcoins to myself as I was told to do this when changing the password. There was no option to say no to the 'Do you want money taken from your balance to change password?' so I paid it. I was not pleased, but I was given no choice by this well thought out piece of software.  The fee was taken and never confirmed.

Now I come to actually use bitcoins for something and I cant. Transactions never confirm.

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 29/11/2013 10:52
To: 12HurBGkjRfMH5gAT9FN9uX4kSmZZ9K7XQ
Debit: -1.00 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTC
Net amount: -1.0002 BTC
Transaction ID: 14d4f66e7b5095ac808b2bab17525d9a7671d2806630fa3eee0816b70e232a49

ADD AN OPTION TO SAY NO TO THE HORRIBLE FEES.
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November 29, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
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Your transaction seems not to exist.

https://blockchain.info/tx/14d4f66e7b5095ac808b2bab17525d9a7671d2806630fa3eee0816b70e232a49

Try running bitcoind from the command line with the -rescan option.

On a side note, the minimum fee is 0.0001 at the moment. Not inclucing this may result in your transaction to be delayed significantly (it may still be included eventually).


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219504.0
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The default fee policy can be overridden using the -mintxfee and -minrelaytxfee
command-line options, but note that we intend to replace the hard-coded fees
with code that automatically calculates and suggests appropriate fees in the
0.9 release and note that if you set a fee policy significantly different from
the rest of the network your transactions may never confirm.
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November 29, 2013, 12:51:47 PM
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Your transaction seems not to exist.

https://blockchain.info/tx/14d4f66e7b5095ac808b2bab17525d9a7671d2806630fa3eee0816b70e232a49

Try running bitcoind from the command line with the -rescan option.


Did not work. Now have to try to recover my money from this crappy, broken client. Maybe by messing about importing the wallet someplace else. Maybe dumping the private key. In any case I see this as a huge risk.

In my considered opinion Bitcoin QT is a pile of garbage. You should stay away from it.
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November 29, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
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The quickest access will probably be to extract the private key for the address you sent the BTC from and import it in a lightweight client.

How to get private key:
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/7536/how-do-i-export-my-private-keys-from-my-bitcoin-qt-client

Client overview:
http://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
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November 29, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
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The quickest access will probably be to extract the private key for the address you sent the BTC from and import it in a lightweight client.

How to get private key:
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/7536/how-do-i-export-my-private-keys-from-my-bitcoin-qt-client

Client overview:
http://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

Thanks, yeah that's what I did in the end. Swept all the private keys twice. Still lost about four bitcoins in the process, no idea where they went to. Bitcoin QT does not register this and still tells me it has all my bitcoins right here. Really well programmed.

This is the second time I lost money with btc. First time I split my btc between my own wallet and some online service called 'mybitcoins.com'. I figured you can't be too careful and I should keep a few with a third party in case I have a fire or get burgled or whatever. Few months later they were all

'Ooh dear , I got hacked and lost all your bitcoins.'

Yeah, fantastic, buddy. Don't worry, though, it's only money, eh?

OK, I still have made more money than I lost and I guess you pay the price for crappy services you get with bitcoin this early. Still feels rubbish to lose money in such a way, though.

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November 29, 2013, 02:24:10 PM
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Sorry to hear that. You souldn't be losing any BTC.

Before you delete your bitcoin-Qt and move on, you could import the wallet.dat in blockchain.info, to make sure you moved it all.

https://blockchain.info/wallet/import-wallet

As a site note. Electrum(light)/Armory(full) with their deterministic wallet feature are nice for backing up the private keys. You only need to back up one key (the seed for the RNG that then generates the Bitcoin addresses), which will let you restore any future private keys.
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November 29, 2013, 03:21:51 PM
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So much FUD.. I can't decide whether you're just trying to dismiss bitcoin, and love some altcoin; or if you are from one of those "next-generation"-coin; or if your loss didn't actually happen.
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