Question: method against KYC stealing

[MNTCorp]

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example

https://thumb.ibb.co/g5RXTn/Capture.jpg

Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

[Omega Weapon]

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example



Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

That is a very big worry for all of us, but it seems that what you want to do is to add some kind of watermark to your documents right? I am not an expert when it comes to manipulating images or something like that, but I suppose it's very easy to take off that watermark, it should be a piece of cake for the professionals that have the knowledge and the skills about how to use tools like Photoshop.

[harizen]

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example



Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

Obviously for any verifications, it will not passed. The picture must be cleared and well detailed. Maybe you can put that on bottom part and see if it will passed.

Now since KYC is part of mandate of a "legit" ICO, people have no choice but to comply with the rules. If afraid, then don't participate. To minimize somehow the deepest information you have, I think public ID is enough or those who does only have a limited information. Just don't send them your bank details , passports or any thing that can be considered same as that.

[kaya11]

Now we can't do anything but trust in the ICO KYC process? I have been doing KYC as of now but nothings have ever been stolen from me. I guess I only have passed my documents to trusted ones. What if we add dates on what day we have taken up the picture? Maybe it will just be edited if there will be someone to stole it. I have ideas in my mind how to authenticate that the documents are mine, suddenly there are ICOs that are now making that happen.

[MNTCorp]

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example

https://thumb.ibb.co/g5RXTn/Capture.jpg

Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

That is a very big worry for all of us, but it seems that what you want to do is to add some kind of watermark to your documents right? I am not an expert when it comes to manipulating images or something like that, but I suppose it's very easy to take off that watermark, it should be a piece of cake for the professionals that have the knowledge and the skills about how to use tools like Photoshop.

You are right, but I think, that not everyone thief has skills in Photoshop or kind of this and in the case he has, it will take your time to remove watermark.
If could decrease the chance of stealing your information, if it will able to pass KYC.

[MNTCorp]

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example

https://thumb.ibb.co/g5RXTn/Capture.jpg

Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

Obviously for any verifications, it will not passed. The picture must be cleared and well detailed. Maybe you can put that on bottom part and see if it will passed.

Now since KYC is part of mandate of a "legit" ICO, people have no choice but to comply with the rules. If afraid, then don't participate. To minimize somehow the deepest information you have, I think public ID is enough or those who does only have a limited information. Just don't send them your bank details , passports or any thing that can be considered same as that.

I am afraid that the date in bottom part will be deleted easily by cropping. And this procedure is quick very much.

[jeremypwr]

Well first of all it doesn't sound like you're willing to trust many people in this industry, as you have every right to fell that way.
The only problem with that mentality is that since it is very easy for people to scam in crypto, sometimes KYC is absolutely necessary.
Sure it can be annoying but as long as you are who you claim to be, I wouldn't be too concerned.
This is, of course, only after you've researched the ICO you are going to invest in.

[yuukireit]

That what we are worying about with the kyc it can crush about bitcoin or cryptocurrency ecosystem from anonymously and that also make some problem about stolen data

[cryptolandlords]

If you are not comfortable in participating in an ICO because of the KYC process, and you really want to hide your identity. There are so many ICO that do not need KYC before taking part in the ICO. You can go for ICO that do not require KYC since there are so many project doing ICO.

[5ensei]

It's good idea to add a watermark to the KYC documents to prevent identity theft, however it will not pass if they are strict on it. KYC is something that puts investors off the project so better to stick to ones that don't require it, unless it is a sure thing like the telegram ico.

[ManaMan]

KYC is really an issue with ICOs and something you should always not be willing to give right away. I am not sure if you put text over your picture that they are going to accept your photo. Simply because it can clearly been sean that you have edited it and most of them require just an image an nothing more or less.

If you are really that much concerned you may want to look up for ICO pools, which are basically where many "small investors" join their money and one registers for ICO and at the end share the tokens. But these have their own risks as well and honestly I haven't tried any of them so I can't really vauch how good are they. But I've heard they exist.

[Ris88]

It's good idea to add a watermark to the KYC documents to prevent identity theft, however it will not pass if they are strict on it. KYC is something that puts investors off the project so better to stick to ones that don't require it, unless it is a sure thing like the telegram ico.

It may be very difficult to talk about KYC, maybe this system is very good, but I am confused that there are some projects, hunting the participants shows evidence of payment of water or electricity, but the problem is, that not everyone who joined the campaign already aged, and 100% that all participants are still easy, and the payment proof is certainly in the name of their parents, not on their behalf, so this is what makes many people confused by the requirements.

[mrox2011]

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example

https://thumb.ibb.co/g5RXTn/Capture.jpg

Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

recently i have tried this watermark method.  so i will update here if there was a problem with adding watermark.
By the way i think it good to not cover the picture of your with the watermark!

[HiRollStaff]

It would be really great if there was a pre-verification organization that would collect this data and the sole job of this company would be to protect it and be transparent about its uses within the system. Then, similarly to Captcha, there would be a single-point verification process so that the information isn't actually being spread, instead, it would be like a stamp of approval by widely trusted source.

Hmmmmmmm... maybe this is my million dollar idea.

[RodeoX]

But the data is still being handed over. The watermark will only show on the image you sent. All a thief has to do is copy the data. I think you are right to be afraid. When I see ICO I assume it is a scam.

If you simply must and take a foolish risk participate in an ICO then you should make absolutely sure that the business is a legal business with a license on file. If they don't have that and they are asking for KYC information then it is surely a scam.

[MNTCorp]

That what we are worying about with the kyc it can crush about bitcoin or cryptocurrency ecosystem from anonymously and that also make some problem about stolen data

I don't worry about it, because I am a fair player.

[Kprawn]

Ok, Let's assume you add the watermark, what would be the idea behind it. Do you want to prevent them from re-using the

same documents for something else? Any person with some good Photoshop skills will remove that watermark and then

re-use that information on another site. Most other sites where this information is required, do not have experts in document

analysis to spot this, because the admin is done by normal clerks. 

[MNTCorp]

KYC is really an issue with ICOs and something you should always not be willing to give right away. I am not sure if you put text over your picture that they are going to accept your photo. Simply because it can clearly been sean that you have edited it and most of them require just an image an nothing more or less.

If you are really that much concerned you may want to look up for ICO pools, which are basically where many "small investors" join their money and one registers for ICO and at the end share the tokens. But these have their own risks as well and honestly I haven't tried any of them so I can't really vauch how good are they. But I've heard they exist.

It is sad
Thank you for info about existing of this pools.

But the data is still being handed over. The watermark will only show on the image you sent. All a thief has to do is copy the data. I think you are right to be afraid. When I see ICO I assume it is a scam.

If you simply must and take a foolish risk participate in an ICO then you should make absolutely sure that the business is a legal business with a license on file. If they don't have that and they are asking for KYC information then it is surely a scam.

Of course, they have my data, but, following this idea, they will not able to use your image with your ID, right ?

Well first of all it doesn't sound like you're willing to trust many people in this industry, as you have every right to fell that way.
The only problem with that mentality is that since it is very easy for people to scam in crypto, sometimes KYC is absolutely necessary.
Sure it can be annoying but as long as you are who you claim to be, I wouldn't be too concerned.
This is, of course, only after you've researched the ICO you are going to invest in.

My intent is to prevent using my images with ID by thiefs in their own purposes. There is nothing bad in trying to defend my data And avoid problems, connected with this kind of stealing. Thank you, for your opinion !


At this stage of topic, I believe that it is good way, but my docs couldn't be accepted. That's a problem.

[MNTCorp]

Ok, Let's assume you add the watermark, what would be the idea behind it. Do you want to prevent them from re-using the

same documents for something else? Any person with some good Photoshop skills will remove that watermark and then

re-use that information on another site. Most other sites where this information is required, do not have experts in document

analysis to spot this, because the admin is done by normal clerks.  

Hello, guys !

There is very relevant problem - a lot of projects are doing their ICOs and a big part of them require KYC submission.
I am, as a person, I'm afraid of stealing my personal data. I am, as maybe all of you, trying to find way to prevent thefting my data.
The question is, how about providing the text, while providing your docs in KYC Verification. The text will be ON this pictures of my docs, half-transparent font.
For example

https://thumb.ibb.co/g5RXTn/Capture.jpg

Have you ever been trying this ? Does it work ?
Please, tell me your thoughts, I will be glad very much.

That is a very big worry for all of us, but it seems that what you want to do is to add some kind of watermark to your documents right? I am not an expert when it comes to manipulating images or something like that, but I suppose it's very easy to take off that watermark, it should be a piece of cake for the professionals that have the knowledge and the skills about how to use tools like Photoshop.

You are right, but I think, that not everyone thief has skills in Photoshop or kind of this and in the case he has, it will take your time to remove watermark.
If could decrease the chance of stealing your information, if it will able to pass KYC.

You have understood me well. I had written my thoughts about it before. Write me back, with the thoughts, what do you think about it.

[nikola22]

It's good idea to add a watermark to the KYC documents to prevent identity theft, however it will not pass if they are strict on it. KYC is something that puts investors off the project so better to stick to ones that don't require it, unless it is a sure thing like the telegram ico.

mostly investors have to go through KYC and there is no need for bounty hunters to go through KYC in most cases. if KYC required you can just skip this campaign.