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November 30, 2013, 12:30:01 PM |
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Hello , my brother is a lawyer and he suggest me to cash out 50%. He says I dont have to pay tax for it now. But he is sure in the future they will ban it. (dont accept withdrawals from exchanges) What do you guys think?
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November 30, 2013, 12:37:18 PM |
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If he is sure why he isn't suggesting to withdraw 100%. Anyway noone can predict what will happen but so far noone says anything about banning bitcoins or something. Regulation will be introduced but no bans.
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November 30, 2013, 12:43:00 PM |
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Hello , my brother is a lawyer and he suggest me to cash out 50%. He says I dont have to pay tax for it now. But he is sure in the future they will ban it. (dont accept withdrawals from exchanges) What do you guys think?
what country are you from, if you don't mind me asking. here in Australia I think that government want taxes, but not sure how that will work.
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November 30, 2013, 12:46:21 PM |
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here in Australia I think that government want taxes, but not sure how that will work.
Capital gains tax. It's basically just considered normal income, except you divide it by two if you've held the BTC for over a year. So the tax on $1m will be about $250k or so.
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November 30, 2013, 12:46:44 PM |
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I'm from belgium. Small pattatoland
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November 30, 2013, 12:46:54 PM |
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The greater your assets the more they should be diversified to reduce risk. If Bitcoins constitute a large amount of your wealth, then sell some and buy other assets (gold, properties, stocks). That way if BTC does fall or fail then it's not so bad, you've just given up some of your upside.
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November 30, 2013, 12:47:02 PM |
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Hello , my brother is a lawyer and he suggest me to cash out 50%. He says I dont have to pay tax for it now. But he is sure in the future they will ban it. (dont accept withdrawals from exchanges) What do you guys think?
And what else does his crystal ball say?
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November 30, 2013, 12:50:43 PM |
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That you're bear will die in less then 200 years and chinese will rule the world
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November 30, 2013, 01:02:28 PM |
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No government can ban cryptocoins... And yes, if you cash out in FIAT, you may have to pay tax depending on the laws of your country. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 30, 2013, 01:06:03 PM |
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In fairness to your brother, the immediate reaction of most people when they discover Bitcoin is that it could get banned. Spend some time reading up on it, follow the news, and once you have a clear understanding of the various factors at play, and the resilience of the system, you may change your mind.
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November 30, 2013, 01:30:50 PM |
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They can't ban cryptos, and if they ban exchanges, deals will just be made in cash or in escrow on boards like this. What you do with your coins is up to you, but don't just blindly take advice or somebody else even if he is a lawyer. I'm from belgium. Small pattatoland
haha this made me laugh for some reason.
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November 30, 2013, 01:31:30 PM |
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A leader is a person who is willing to hold good ideas even when they are unpopular.
From your brief description, it sounds like you and your brother may both be followers. Rather than actually do sufficient research, it sounds like your brother might have just read and believed a few superficial articles written by journalists who don't really understand Bitcoin. The mainstream media usually gets it wrong.
No matter what you do, you risk looking foolish in front of your brother. If you stay in and Bitcoin fails, he's in a perfect spot to say, "I told you so." If you get out and Bitcoin continues to grow, you look like someone too weak to think for himself.
If your primary concern is to look good to others, you should sell. If you miss out on becoming rich, you can always use he excuse that it seemed too risky. Worst case scenario is that you stay poor and popular.
Or you could act like a leader, do the research, decide for yourself, and ignore what others say, including your brother, the mainstream media, and others in this forum.
People are naturally afraid of things they don't understand, but that's often where the big money lies. The cure to fear is in-depth knowledge. Venture capitalists get rich because they are willing to think and take a risk based of their conclusions.
It's not really a question of what kind of person you are, but rather what kind of person you choose to be. You have the power to decide in this and every instance of your life. Be what you want to be: a thinker, a follower, popular, risk-taking, whatever.
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November 30, 2013, 01:33:40 PM |
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Also your brother must check fincen's guidelines so far as well as the recent congress hearing about bitcoin. As a lawyer he 'll appreciate all the boring stuff ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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November 30, 2013, 01:38:09 PM |
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You should sell 50% because you should do it before the other guy, and that's the whole reason.
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November 30, 2013, 01:54:28 PM |
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lol As long as you're in cryptocurrencies they can't do a thing, I've been amazed lately with some of the stuff going on at how secure the coins are once they're tucked away in your wallet on the PC. It will vary from country to country what the politicians do but even if they make it illegal they'd essentially have to put a gun to your head and force you to open up the wallet in order to get at your coins, cashing out now I think would be a big mistake with hyperinflation around the corner.
People, particularly on this forum like to think that governments and banks are these big, ruthless, all powerful entities but the reality is they're usually a bunch of old white men who need the help of an assistant to operate a keyboard. They can't even get basic mathematics right and refuse to understand that when you have negative numbers ( debt ) that's a bad thing.
I have a lot of respect for Germany who, like China are clearly more ahead of the curve than many like to think because they already declared it private money, I suspect most countries with sense will pick this option instead because it nets them money in the long run and they won't waste lots of resources chasing encrypted information everywhere.
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November 30, 2013, 02:02:11 PM |
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Risk vs reward. Only you know how much risk you're willing to take. If the vast majority of your net worth is in bitcoin, it's probably worth diversifying a bit. If you're just playing around with a couple of bitcoins, selling now would be no fun.
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November 30, 2013, 02:05:59 PM |
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People, particularly on this forum like to think that governments and banks are these big, ruthless, all powerful entities but the reality is they're usually a bunch of old white men who need the help of an assistant to operate a keyboard. They can't even get basic mathematics right and refuse to understand that when you have negative numbers ( debt ) that's a bad thing.
Very funny. You are right, but if the evil old white men have loyal and competent underlings to carry out their will, the people are still in trouble
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November 30, 2013, 02:20:14 PM |
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If you were in this in early days, now's a great time to cash out. Nothing lasts forever man!
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November 30, 2013, 02:25:27 PM |
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People, particularly on this forum like to think that governments and banks are these big, ruthless, all powerful entities but the reality is they're usually a bunch of old white men who need the help of an assistant to operate a keyboard. They can't even get basic mathematics right and refuse to understand that when you have negative numbers ( debt ) that's a bad thing.
Very funny. You are right, but if the evil old white men have loyal and competent underlings to carry out their will, the people are still in trouble As long as they keep fucking up they'll have less and less people to help them, look at what happened with Snowden ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) no programmer or tech expert who is competent is likely to help them these days, even if the government pays them a lot they'll probably do to security what they did to Obamacare.
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November 30, 2013, 02:26:55 PM |
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If you were in this in early days, now's a great time to cash out. Nothing lasts forever man!
So you don't suggest anyone to enter from now on right? What are you doing here then?
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