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December 04, 2013, 04:30:09 PM
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tldr ur a bubble
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December 04, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
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I stopped at the argument that bitcoins are easily stolen. Only from stupid people, I have posted this so many times in not gonna bother anymore but there is a way to keep your bitcoins 100% completly safe.
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December 04, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
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Is mtgox a reliable to base bitcoins value nowadays? Iv heard that It isn't.
Could sombody please clerify this for me Smiley
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December 04, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
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Is mtgox a reliable to base bitcoins value nowadays? Iv heard that It isn't.
Could sombody please clerify this for me Smiley

MtGox has USD liquidity problems after US DoJ froze US MtGox Bank accounts...
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December 04, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
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Is mtgox a reliable to base bitcoins value nowadays? Iv heard that It isn't.
Could sombody please clerify this for me Smiley

MtGox has USD liquidity problems after US DoJ froze US MtGox Bank accounts...
But can US use mtgox and cash out with Yen and do conversion themselves?
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December 04, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
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There are a couple of reasons why the bubble is sure to burst. The first is just that it’s a bubble, and any chart which looks like the one at the top of this post is bound to end in tears at some point.

And here is when i stopped reading your lovely wall of text.
I mean saying "bitcoin is a bubble because it's a bubble" doesn't sound promising for the rest of your text...
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December 04, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
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Is mtgox a reliable to base bitcoins value nowadays? Iv heard that It isn't.
Could sombody please clerify this for me Smiley

MtGox has USD liquidity problems after US DoJ froze US MtGox Bank accounts...

That's 5 mils.
At current price they have to sell only 5000BTC to cover it.
And they don't have liquidity problems , they have incompetent problems.


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December 04, 2013, 04:48:29 PM
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But can US use mtgox and cash out with Yen and do conversion themselves?

How you can cash out Yen when you have USD ballance on mtgox.
You would need to sell Bitcoin for Yen first.
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December 04, 2013, 04:53:45 PM
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MtGox has USD liquidity problems after US DoJ froze US MtGox Bank accounts...

That's 5 mils.
At current price they have to sell only 5000BTC to cover it.
And they don't have liquidity problems , they have incompetent problems.

They would need 5000 BTC from fees first.
And they have high expenses (custommer support, trade platform software)
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December 04, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
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TL;DR

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I think the first reply or two is obligated to give a tl;dr recap of WTF he's going on and on about. I stopped reading when he said it broke a billion. No, it actually broke 10 billion..

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December 04, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
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I stopped at the argument that bitcoins are easily stolen. Only from stupid people, I have posted this so many times in not gonna bother anymore but there is a way to keep your bitcoins 100% completly safe.

I stopped at "A few days ago, the value of all the bitcoins in the world blew past $1 billion for the first time ever" (yes, that is the very first sentence of OP), because it is a factually false statement, unless (about) 240 days is accepted as "a few days".
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December 04, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
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MtGox has USD liquidity problems after US DoJ froze US MtGox Bank accounts...

That's 5 mils.
At current price they have to sell only 5000BTC to cover it.
And they don't have liquidity problems , they have incompetent problems.

They would need 5000 BTC from fees first.
And they have high expenses (custommer support, trade platform software) those things based on how they act are worth 100$

Look at the trade amount the last months , apply the trading fee , and it will go way past 5 millions.


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December 04, 2013, 05:05:12 PM
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I stopped at the argument that bitcoins are easily stolen. Only from stupid people, I have posted this so many times in not gonna bother anymore but there is a way to keep your bitcoins 100% completly safe.

I stopped at "A few days ago, the value of all the bitcoins in the world blew past $1 billion for the first time ever" (yes, that is the very first sentence of OP), because it is factually wrong, unless (about) 240 days is accepted as "a few days".


https://medium.com/money-banking/2b5ef79482cb
article originally published in April.


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December 04, 2013, 05:22:08 PM
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There are a couple of reasons why the bubble is sure to burst. The first is just that it’s a bubble, and any chart which looks like the one at the top of this post is bound to end in tears at some point.

And here is when i stopped reading your lovely wall of text.
I mean saying "bitcoin is a bubble because it's a bubble" doesn't sound promising for the rest of your text...

If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck, then we can assume, that by all means, it is a duck.

The reason the current prices in bitcoin can be called a bubble is due to the following facts:

The chart looks like a bubble. All charts that looked like this in the past have ended up looking like this one:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qZ1HEWG3GHE/TVvKCodj1HI/AAAAAAAAFPo/h4LGbgEYElI/s1600/20.+%2527%2527TIME+-+TULIPOMANIA%2527%2527%252C+olio+su+tela+%2528100x150%2529+2011+.jpg

The current valuation of bitcoin was born solely out of speculative demand, as opposed to legitimate use as a currency.

A huge percentage of aforementioned speculative demand stems from increased media attention over the last few months.

The computing infrastructure that underlies bitcoin transactions is heavily undermined by the speculative price spike. The enermous amounts of money spent on developing and manufacturing hashing ASICs, and installing vast datacenters for mining are a school example of mal-investments in the Hayekian sense. Bitcoin has already sown the seeds of its future destruction, or at least decimation.
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December 04, 2013, 05:24:57 PM
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Its a bubble because it can explode easily, but if bitcoin holders start using it to buy things and not just as an investment, it will be more solid
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December 04, 2013, 05:27:58 PM
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Anyway, anyone interested in pursuing their luck in bitcoin should read the following. It's one of the most educative, and at the same time the most entertaining writings I've ever read.

The Great Hargeisa Goat Bubble
http://www.juliangough.com/the-great-hargeisa-goat-bubble/
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December 04, 2013, 05:29:02 PM
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Why are so many people staring at a boiling pot and saying "look a bubble!! and there another one, surely this will be the final one!"

There were, are, and will be bubbles. This is not a stock that bubbles once and pops for good.

The gospel according to Satoshi - https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Free bitcoin in ? - Stay tuned for this years Bitcoin hunt!
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December 04, 2013, 05:34:08 PM
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Oh no, tullip graph again...
What about microsoft bubble, it has to pop as well because their OS are worthless...


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December 04, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
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I stopped at the argument that bitcoins are easily stolen. Only from stupid people, I have posted this so many times in not gonna bother anymore but there is a way to keep your bitcoins 100% completly safe.

http://www.newstatesman.com/future-proof/2013/12/theres-%C2%A360m-bitcoin-heist-going-down-right-now-and-you-can-watch-real-time

Guess it's not 100% now is it
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December 04, 2013, 05:46:20 PM
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There are a couple of reasons why the bubble is sure to burst. The first is just that it’s a bubble, and any chart which looks like the one at the top of this post is bound to end in tears at some point.

And here is when i stopped reading your lovely wall of text.
I mean saying "bitcoin is a bubble because it's a bubble" doesn't sound promising for the rest of your text...

If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck, then we can assume, that by all means, it is a duck.

The reason the current prices in bitcoin can be called a bubble is due to the following facts:

The chart looks like a bubble. All charts that looked like this in the past have ended up looking like this one:

For you to realize how ridiculous you sound take a look of the price chart between 19/3/2013 and 10/4/2013.
Then look again at the all time price chart of bitcoin.
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