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May 06, 2018, 07:37:33 AM
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OP if everyone could get merits easily wouldn't it defeat the purpose?

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May 06, 2018, 08:45:33 AM
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OP if everyone could get merits easily wouldn't it defeat the purpose?

If everyone could get merits then it would break the wisdom of the merit system. Say for example every bitcointalk users are merit sources, then it is just like saying that there is no merit at all.

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May 06, 2018, 08:51:17 AM
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements?

Any consideration of increasing the quality of posting in the forum, so that we can find posts to award with merits?

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May 06, 2018, 08:55:20 AM
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements?

Any consideration of increasing the quality of posting in the forum, so that we can find posts to award with merits?

Minimum level of received merits to start a thread outside of newbies is the next step

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May 06, 2018, 12:25:24 PM
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Well, merits is not that complicated to get, just have a good, quality and constructive post then you get merit. Merit system has a big influence in this forum, lowering the merits might disabled the use of it.
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May 06, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
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Actually ranking up in the forum is not the main thing that you need to do. It is just an indicator for the experience in the forum and the knowledge you gain while you refer this forum. You should definitely get a lot of knowledge about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies if you refer the forum well. There are so much threads and topics to discuss and talk about the crypto and the market. and also mining and etc. If you truly refer those posts and stayed with the forum, you will definitely increasing up your knowledge. And also it is the way that you can rank up in the forum. If you have enough knowledge,you will post valuable stuff in this forum. And the rank will be increased according to the posts. So try to gain some knowledge here rather than just try to rank up without anything in your mind.
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May 06, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
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Because just like trust merit is very hard to earn you have to do very constructive posts (see nullius posts) in order to get merit. if you want to get merits there are a lot of tips and trick to get merits just go search TMAN's tip in this section. if you ask me, i don't care about ranking up nor on merit system since i don't construct long sentences just make a point.
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May 06, 2018, 04:10:41 PM
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Because just like trust merit is very hard to earn you have to do very constructive posts (see nullius posts) in order to get merit. if you want to get merits there are a lot of tips and trick to get merits just go search TMAN's tip in this section. if you ask me, i don't care about ranking up nor on merit system since i don't construct long sentences just make a point.

sentences don't have to be long, actually if you do that unless you are nullius you are unlikely to get merits. The quality comes from content not length

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May 06, 2018, 04:42:37 PM
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements?

Any consideration of increasing the quality of posting in the forum, so that we can find posts to award with merits?

This is the best counter to OP's suggestion. People should really look into their quality before asking this kind of question and making threads all over meta. One way to know it is by submitting their posts to the review/giveaway services of high ranked members and see if they got merit or not.
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May 06, 2018, 05:37:18 PM
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Because just like trust merit is very hard to earn you have to do very constructive posts (see nullius posts) in order to get merit. if you want to get merits there are a lot of tips and trick to get merits just go search TMAN's tip in this section.

Instead of reading what other people have been saying or gossiping about merit and all dont you ever feel that you should work on your own and develop good skills of writing posts and engaging the general public to read your posts? That along with well written constructive posts on topic is what is needed for getting merit - of course at the proper exposure from merit sources.

sentences don't have to be long, actually if you do that unless you are nullius you are unlikely to get merits. The quality comes from content not length
Its a pity that some bottomfeeders think that writing large walls of text will fetch them merits. They dont realize that doing so causes retinal detachment in the reader and thus they have exactly zero chance of getting merited. Grin

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May 14, 2018, 05:54:00 PM
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I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.
Getting merit is not difficult as what you're saying about. You can simply get merit if your post are good enough and contributing good to the forum but I saw your Latest Posts but most of them are on "bounties" which doesn't deserve any single merit.
Your count posts is at 1135 but didn't get any merit and has 182 activity with "10 Merits".
I just notice on every "bounty hunters" that they do not received any merit yet because most or commonly their posts are "crappy" as what you have mentioned.

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May 14, 2018, 06:15:16 PM
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements?

This wouldn't be possible as for the ranks are also being abused by some users. They're using their accounts just for earning in bounties, and within that case the number of spammers would definitely increase if we lowered the Merit Requirement of some RANKS.

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or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?
JUST BE PATIENT. That's what I can only contribute for your question. Don't waste your time on finding any other ways because as you can see on zentdex's post the Merit Distribution as of now is decreasing as time goes by. And only our posts will always be the answer on our needs in Merits.

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The thing is that to get merit you have to post really, really, really, really good comments that catches people. While before to rank up you could just post regular and in the flow of things. While the merit systems guarantees that spammer won't rank up, it almost guarantees that a regular, average user won't rank up either.

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I want to correct your notion. Getting merit isn't complicated and why it might seem complicated to you is because everyone is on a quest for it. Assuming we all allowed the merit system to play out and not want to get it all then it could have been different. All you need do is make reasonable posts that contributes to the forum success and viola merits will come.
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I've found lot of merit topic in this forum, perhaps now I am not considering and paying lot of attention for this merit as can be seen also in my profile without merit at all Grin. For me, just still to learn a lot and also reading. But perhaps for you with much longer than me in this forum, merit is now a problem because of getting it is not easy. Hmm I am thinking also someday to know how creating good/high quality post in this forum.

You need to improve your English posting skills. I would have skipped over your post, but I decided to read it, and use it as an example. It takes work to understand what you are trying to say, and most of us here are pretty busy, so we just skip posts that don't flow easily.

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I want to correct your notion. Getting merit isn't complicated and why it might seem complicated to you is because everyone is on a quest for it. Assuming we all allowed the merit system to play out and not want to get it all then it could have been different. All you need do is make reasonable posts that contributes to the forum success and viola merits will come.

I'm assuming you started with 100 merit, so that means since the system was implemented you have gotten 4. Yet look at how much you have posted since.

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The thing is that to get merit you have to post really, really, really, really good comments that catches people. While before to rank up you could just post regular and in the flow of things. While the merit systems guarantees that spammer won't rank up, it almost guarantees that a regular, average user won't rank up either.
I am a "regular" "average" user in the forum. I am getting merited often for posting. I still need a huge number of merits to reach the next (and final) rank of the forum but do I look like I am complaining? Thing is that not everyone here has the ability to adapt to every new thing that the world throws at them.

If you feel that the merit system is favoring people and you are getting jealous of them for ranking up before you can (Hint: Rat Race??) then you can do the following :
1. Its time to up your game and learn better ways to post.
2. Stop visiting this forum and hope merit gets removed (Which will not happen)
3. The last but not the least - get a job and stop depending on the forum bounty earnings to get paid.

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May 15, 2018, 02:40:22 PM
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I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

So basically even if the limit would be lowered to 11 merits for the next rank you would still be unable to rank up.

and the OP would go like this:
Why the hell I can't get a single merit? This is too complicated and it is taking me this long trying to earn even a single one.  Roll Eyes

It's supposed to be tough. 

Tough, challenging and motivating.
Besides, it's fun seeing a lot of account getting red trusted and then they post their rant on meta section and their fault will be pointed out by the community.

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May 15, 2018, 02:54:57 PM
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

I don't think it needs to be lowered, it is already fair. When you are a Newbie>Jr.Member, you only need 10 to rank up to Member, since you come from "know nothing". Then you already a Member means you begin to understand what is going on in this forum. To become a Full Member you need 90 more merits, and if you have not earn those merits means you have not completely understand what is this forum about, so learn more. When you actually deserve those 90 merit you will eventually got it.

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May 15, 2018, 04:16:43 PM
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

I don't think it needs to be lowered, it is already fair. When you are a Newbie>Jr.Member, you only need 10 to rank up to Member, since you come from "know nothing". Then you already a Member means you begin to understand what is going on in this forum. To become a Full Member you need 90 more merits, and if you have not earn those merits means you have not completely understand what is this forum about, so learn more. When you actually deserve those 90 merit you will eventually got it.

Maybe it is an option in the future to lower Merits. Some accounts already had a rank here, when the Merit system starts, and they hadn't to do quality posts for reaching this rank. So there were some accounts who didn't deserve this. They had never done quality posts and the'll never do. So it'll be only a justice to lower the total merit amount of every account from time to time. Maybe 1 Merit per quarter. So shitposters will loose very soon their rank and get ranked down to the next lower rank.
Doing this we can have more justice between users registrated before the Merit System and users registered after the Merit System.

But I think it is to early to launch a decreasing of Merits, because there are still not enougt Merit Sources; the circulating sMerits are still decreasing. But if the circulating sMerits are getting to a higher value, we can have a look at a lowering of earned Merits.

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