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August 08, 2011, 11:40:10 AM |
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i'm not sure if i had any bitcoins in the ewallet but want to make sure not to miss the claim process. so i just drop there my uname/pwd and a new address to send the leftovers if any. pitty you didn't include a 1line field for messages, to say hello or thanks for the service while it lasted. i would have typed something like this "probably empty, but please process & discard my account" people with high balances would deserve priority treatment. & thanks for the update
It's not my site, I have nothing todo with mybitcoin except that im am investigating it with btcpolice.
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Bruce Wagner
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August 08, 2011, 12:06:26 PM |
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MyBitcoin.com USERS HAD BITCOIN STOLEN. They are returning a portion 49% of them to you: Not sure where to send them? CALL ME. 646-580-0022
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bitlotto
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August 08, 2011, 12:13:12 PM |
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WOW, about 75,000 BTC gone! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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*Next Draw Feb 1* BitLotto: monthly raffle (0.25 BTC per ticket) Completely transparent and impossible to manipulate who wins. TOR TOR2WEB Donations to: 1JQdiQsjhV2uJ4Y8HFtdqteJsZhv835a8J are appreciated.
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da2ce7
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August 08, 2011, 12:26:23 PM |
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MyBitcoin.com USERS HAD BITCOIN STOLEN. They are returning a portion 49% of them to you: Not sure where to send them? CALL ME. 646-580-0022
Hey Bruce, you are sounding a bit shrill. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) It is better to not jump to conclusions without sold evidence. For people looking for places to store bitcoin, I personalty recommend: Trade Hill: https://www.tradehill.com/ or MtGox: https://mtgox.com/ as e-wallet services.
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BitcoinPorn
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August 08, 2011, 12:30:40 PM Last edit: August 08, 2011, 12:50:13 PM by BitcoinPorn |
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Hey Bruce, you are sounding a bit shrill. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) It is better to not jump to conclusions without sold evidence. I don't think Bruce is jumping to any conclusion without a great backing of information that seems to all point to that being the situation. http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/wiki/index.php/MyBitcoin has a lot of information
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August 08, 2011, 12:38:03 PM |
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MyBitcoin.com USERS HAD BITCOIN STOLEN. They are returning a portion 49% of them to you: Not sure where to send them? CALL ME. 646-580-0022
Hey Bruce, you are sounding a bit shrill. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) It is better to not jump to conclusions without sold evidence. For people looking for places to store bitcoin, I personalty recommend: Trade Hill: https://www.tradehill.com/ or MtGox: https://mtgox.com/ as e-wallet services. He's absolutely not jumping to conclusions. He's not claiming who the btc were stolen by. But if you used to have 100 btc at mybitcoin and now you can only access 49 of them, because someone else took the other 51, then those 51 btc have been stolen... not really much to argue about.
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August 08, 2011, 12:48:14 PM |
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Is anyone else having a problem logging in with their username/password?
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If this post was useful, interesting or entertaining, then you've misunderstood.
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Hello Tom, It would seem that your claims are being filled from book keeping balances and that you may have failed to take into account coins that were debited from an account but not transmitted due to the theft. I attempted to transmit 1000 coins about 10 hours before you shut down. As you can see below I received the confirmation and my balance did show the debit. However the blockexplorer will show you that my coins never arrived at that address (which happens to be my main MtGox business account, called businessaccount1). I fear that I may not be alone in this situation and that your simple percent distribution based on your books will now be upset. Customers who already received their claim will have received a hire percentage then those still outstanding when you add customers like me back in. Respectfully, Todd Bethell, CFM, MBA tbethell08@merage.uci.edutoddbethell@fastscanning.comWork: (949) 340-5438 Cell:949-394-5932 ________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, This is a payment notification from MyBitcoin. You have sent Bitcoins! Transaction Number: 245107 Transaction Date/Time: 2011-07-28 22:30:02 To: 18jsFKuKZ4w8mhdTYy9bZKKHmkZNSZrRUC From: 19vKB489Lx1rxqS366f63mKDLXp6q3v3Ct Amount: -1000.00 Payment Note: MtGox businessaccount1 Thank you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MBC v1.0 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOMeLqAAoJEJ+5g06lAnqF2ZYH/0FYDSmSxQa4l8+Q50e+1qEN r9D6GXVPo5A4jXzgjtXTs2Rj2WmbLnsm2I8vc+fQFvniUiZT3nSbixVAU9wPm0w6 cTD8gNvEe+P9aNttZqGxa9xnCOVkE4ypF+n4jEmE/e3H5yh6Ix0oCI50luIeQZir e0/5sF7ZbWDWhNta9+A6yvWYEI7KLZK+zke8EbLmB3YIDZ+EpaegrT74H6s7fHRR cSopmnyDXX1biS8Mao7GSoTgXuPOTaMRae+4SN4pL1aoRZahWX/SsLXDj2Skjc/4 jtLBq7RLb8x3wo23IiURyzKZJr1Cw75cTULdLcNoUZajewapxIqA9DhFJK8HlSk= =EFK8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Respectfully, Todd Bethell, CFM, MBA tbethell08@merage.uci.edutoddbethell@fastscanning.comWork: (949) 340-5438 Cell:949-394-5932
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August 08, 2011, 01:18:59 PM Last edit: August 08, 2011, 01:46:28 PM by ThomasV |
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sorry if this has already been proposed :
After the claim process is finished, the wallets used by mybitcoin.com will be empty.
So, once this is done, I think that Tom Williams should make these wallets public, and indicate which transactions correspond to the claim process. This should allow everybody to investigate where the stolen bitcoins have been sent, and exchanges will be able to see whether they received coins from these addresses, and whether these coins have been cashed out.
Even is stolen bitcoins have been spread into multiple small transactions, a thief would need to consolidate them in order to cash them out, either in under BTC form, or after selling them on an exchange.
Doing this would also alleviate the suspicion that Tom Williams stole them.
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EDIT : the following is an excerpt from #bitcoin-police, from a few minutes ago :
<ThomasV> williams_tom: hi. once the claim process is over, could you make the wallet.dat files public ? it might help people to track stolen coins <williams_tom> ThomasV, It is possible. I did read your post on the forum about it, BTW. <ThomasV> ok great <williams_tom> This claim process is just the beginning. A recovery tool is next. We will then try to disclose more information about the bad coin cycling problem. <abstinence> williams_tom: do you have a list of stolen coins? <williams_tom> We just want to see some movement with this first. <ThomasV> if we could catch the actual thief, with the help of exchanges, I guess this will improve confidence a lot <williams_tom> abstinence, Not yet. <williams_tom> ThomasV, Of course. We suspect it was being liquidated when the price fell down at gox and th. <abstinence> williams_tom: which date do you mean? <ThomasV> williams_tom: if you don't mind, I'll post your answer on the forum
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August 08, 2011, 02:15:08 PM |
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The wallet balances used in the claim process are incorrect and are not showing all transactions:
Claim Number: 19179 Username: jasonstx Current Balance: 23.46702715 Amount Claimed (49% of the above): 11.49884330 Claimant's Bitcoin Address: *********************
however, blockexplorer has it as such: Received: Block 138424 (2011-07-28 04:54:06) 1.85520678 23.46702715 <-- this is what they show on the claim form Received: Block 139179 (2011-08-01 19:13:55) 1.86087979 25.32790694 Received: Block 139181 (2011-08-01 19:22:11) 0.58584642 25.91375336 <-- this is what it should have shown Sent: Block 140060 (2011-08-08 05:24:37) 10.22 15.69375336 <-- this was done by MBC and went to 2 addresses already (guess as part of the payouts to others?))
My MBC address was 1P2S3SVJLM9Rt1o9GcfBZre2MTQybFP7qt see for yourself.
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August 08, 2011, 02:38:32 PM |
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surely if you except this pay out (49%) then you are agreeing to his/tom's terms ? and if the the other 51% turn up what would happen then ? This seem's a lillte little hasty to me.
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incraft3817
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August 08, 2011, 02:50:10 PM |
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surely if you except this pay out (49%) then you are agreeing to his/tom's terms ? and if the the other 51% turn up what would happen then ? This seem's a lillte little hasty to me.
Then he would have to give it back to us. Plain and simple unless he wants the entire bitcoin community knocking down his door. lol
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August 08, 2011, 03:03:45 PM |
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They paid me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F21471a6b2e2d0d859e9d99d0587bca69.png&t=665&c=91FCA1FYaODYEw) Now...for their code ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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August 08, 2011, 03:07:19 PM |
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I've only got back 1/3 of my btc instead of 1/2....his claim process is fraud. Damn this guy knows how to rob people not just one time but twice.....
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TheBitMan
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August 08, 2011, 03:11:34 PM |
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Who knows if this isn't the hacker about to get hundreds if not thousands of usernames and passwords. We don't really know if this is Tom.
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August 08, 2011, 03:14:00 PM |
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Who knows if this isn't the hacker about to get hundreds if not thousands of usernames and passwords. We don't really know if this is Tom.
That's why you NEVER re-use a password!
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incraft3817
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August 08, 2011, 03:17:40 PM |
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Who knows if this isn't the hacker about to get hundreds if not thousands of usernames and passwords. We don't really know if this is Tom.
That's why you NEVER re-use a password! I use a special password and 5 different handles for mbc account. None of those links back to the password I use outside of mbc. lol so I don't care......
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August 08, 2011, 03:30:58 PM Last edit: August 08, 2011, 03:48:03 PM by Maged |
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I had some trouble with the text and I have no skill in coding. So if a hacker got control of the site I'm sure he can do a better job than what I did. Don't use it people.
hxxp://mybtc.weebly.com/
(My form actually works, don't use it. I have no need for your account.)
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August 08, 2011, 03:37:59 PM |
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I had some trouble with the text and I have no skill in coding. So if a hacker got control of the site I'm sure he can do a better job than what I did. Don't use it people. http://mybtc.weebly.com/(My form actually works, don't use it. I have no need for your account.) action="http://www.emailmeform.com/builder/form/bu3m1la7pz2813W4x47Yt" What was the point in your post then?
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