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December 04, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
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Alright, so enough waiting. I need to place an pre-order for the Feb/March+ miners coming out. I need 4-6TH, so here are my best options as of this moment..

1.) Black Arrow Prospero X-3 2TH: $6k ea, est shipping Feb 24th (would buy 3 for around 18k = 6TH)

2.) BITMINE Coincraft Rig 2TH: $12k ea, est shipping Feb 2nd week (would buy 2 for $12k = 4TH)

3.) KNC Neptune 3TH: 13k ea, shipping Q1/Q2 so April/May?? (would buy 2 for $26k = 6TH)

4.) CoinTerra TerraMiner IV 2TH: 6k ea, April Batch (would buy 3 for $18k = 6TH)

The main priorities obv are, Trusted company, Fastest shipping, and Price per miner.

So what do you guys thinks the best way to go? Thanks, appreciate it!


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December 04, 2013, 07:42:15 AM
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KnC is known to deliver!  Black Arrow is know to deliver!

CoinTerra seems to deliver this month or if there's a delay, 1st part of January.

If you can put hands on the smaller ASIC now but buy in quantities is one of another options I think.

Example 180GH x 12 = 2160 GH in just a few days.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355755.0 (7 hours left in this auction)

Yesterday, my group buy shipped out 59 of the above for 4.25 BTC each.

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December 04, 2013, 07:49:22 AM
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Black Arrow has delivered?  Sweet.  I should look into those guys.

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December 04, 2013, 07:55:08 AM
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I have also the very same question as OP. I have been out since my purchase of Avalon B2, so I have no good info on these more or less new companies.

If someone could support experience with these companies with links so that I could read the full story, it would be great.

First question that comes to my mind - if there are more companies that are proven to deliver, how is that KNC comes with price that is 150-250% of competitors?
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December 04, 2013, 08:21:33 AM
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KnCMiner have forged themselves a great reputation with the successful Jupiter (Saturn and Mercury) delivery.  Their mantra is "under-promise and over-deliver" and with Jupiter they basically pulled it off.  Jupiter was originally advertised as a 350 GH/s miner, then upped to 400 GH/s... then 450 GH/s (with no price rise).  When delivered, most Jupiters are 550 GH/s.  You can imagine how exiting these news releases were for pre-order customers!  They did miss their September delivery deadline by one or two weeks (it became an October delivery), and I know that each week is forever in Bitcoin mining... however my opinion is that they basically delivered on time.  Yes the packaging could have been better, the firmware wasn't really ready (it's good now though), but they delivered and that's what people will remember.

I'm a happy Jupiter owner, and I've got my pre-order in for Neptune.  I won't be surprised if it delivers over-spec, so it will be interesting to see!

I also have a batch 1 pre-order for a 2 TH/s Bitmine CoinCraft Rig.  I've got a good feeling about Bitmine, and I'm looking forward to receiving the unit.  Shipping last week of December, so I'll get it first week of January.  "Shipped" is when the courier picks it up.  I allow an extra week for international delivery plus customs processing.  For example, KnCMiner shipped my Jupiter on 16 October... I got it on 25 October.

I'm sure there are other great companies out there... Bitmine and KnCMiner just happen to be the ones that I chose.

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December 04, 2013, 08:29:30 AM
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What about Hashfast?
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December 04, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
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What about Hashfast?

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December 04, 2013, 09:17:42 AM
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Spread your bets, if it were me.

1x KNC (3TH)
1x Black Arrow (2TH)

Total 5TH.

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December 04, 2013, 09:25:44 AM
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Spread your bets, if it were me.

1x KNC (3TH)
1x Black Arrow (2TH)

Total 5TH.



That's exactly what I was just thinking, lol.  KNC obv seems like the most 'reputable', and Black Arrow seems like the cheapest/fastest shipping. When do you think the Q1/Q2 will actually be though??

Also, Hash Fast looks cool, but the Sierra is only 1.2TH and is looking at early April shipping.
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December 04, 2013, 09:54:17 AM
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Spread your bets, if it were me.

1x KNC (3TH)
1x Black Arrow (2TH)

Total 5TH.



That's exactly what I was just thinking, lol.  KNC obv seems like the most 'reputable', and Black Arrow seems like the cheapest/fastest shipping. When do you think the Q1/Q2 will actually be though??

Also, Hash Fast looks cool, but the Sierra is only 1.2TH and is looking at early April shipping.

No one knows the exact ship date.  We don't even know if they have the chips yet.
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December 04, 2013, 10:09:36 AM
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Jesus lol, its incredible that a company like Knc, that can make 8milly in a couple days, is still such a gamble. Im a professional poker player, and feel wayyyyyyyyy more uneasy putting even 6k on 1 pre-order, that I do bubbling a 50k tournament LOL.

Anyways, I feel alright about the Knc, and hope to see the X-3 at least before April.... Huh
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December 04, 2013, 11:03:54 AM
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To make the list a little more inclusive for folks that are smaller scale:

1) Black Arrow X-3              2TH        $6000   $3/GH     est shipping Feb 24th
2) Black Arrow X-1              100GH    $450     $4.5/GH
3) BITMINE Coincraft Rig     2TH        $12k      $6/GH    est shipping Feb 2nd week
4) BITMINE Antminer
5) KNC Neptune                  3TH        $13k     $4.3/GH  shipping Q1/Q2 so April/May??
6) CoinTerra TerraMiner IV  2TH        $6k        $3/GH     April Batch
7) HashFast Baby Jet          400 GH   $2250    $5.62/GH
Cool HashFast Sierra              1.2 TH    $6300    $5.25/GH
9) BFL Monarch 600            600 GH   $4680    $7.8/GH
10) BFL Monarch 300           300 GH  $2800    $9.3/GH


Looks like Cointerra and Black Arrow are winning the price war.
Did I miss any of the players?
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December 04, 2013, 11:15:59 AM
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Blackarrow has delivered fpgas which I got.

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To make the list a little more inclusive for folks that are smaller scale:

1) Black Arrow X-3              2TH        $6000   $3/GH     est shipping Feb 24th
2) Black Arrow X-1              100GH    $450     $4.5/GH
3) BITMINE Coincraft Rig     2TH        $12k      $6/GH    est shipping Feb 2nd week
4) BITMINE Antminer
5) KNC Neptune                  3TH        $13k     $4.3/GH  shipping Q1/Q2 so April/May??
6) CoinTerra TerraMiner IV  2TH        $6k        $3/GH     April Batch
7) HashFast Baby Jet          400 GH   $2250    $5.62/GH
Cool HashFast Sierra              1.2 TH    $6300    $5.25/GH
9) BFL Monarch 600            600 GH   $4680    $7.8/GH
10) BFL Monarch 300           300 GH  $2800    $9.3/GH


Looks like Cointerra and Black Arrow are winning the price war.
Did I miss any of the players?

will the
1) Black Arrow X-3              2TH        $6000   $3/GH     est shipping Feb 24th
be good enough to pay for itself in feb? and what do you think the btc will be per day? .5 to 1? i think that i can afford to get one if it stays 6k
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December 04, 2013, 04:50:54 PM
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To make the list a little more inclusive for folks that are smaller scale:

1) Black Arrow X-3              2TH        $6000   $3/GH     est shipping Feb 24th
2) Black Arrow X-1              100GH    $450     $4.5/GH
3) BITMINE Coincraft Rig     2TH        $12k      $6/GH    est shipping Feb 2nd week
4) BITMINE Antminer
5) KNC Neptune                  3TH        $13k     $4.3/GH  shipping Q1/Q2 so April/May??
6) CoinTerra TerraMiner IV  2TH        $6k        $3/GH     April Batch
7) HashFast Baby Jet          400 GH   $2250    $5.62/GH
Cool HashFast Sierra              1.2 TH    $6300    $5.25/GH
9) BFL Monarch 600            600 GH   $4680    $7.8/GH
10) BFL Monarch 300           300 GH  $2800    $9.3/GH



Looks like Cointerra and Black Arrow are winning the price war.
Did I miss any of the players?

Now really , what are those ... things... doing there?


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December 04, 2013, 04:55:10 PM
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To make the list a little more inclusive for folks that are smaller scale:

1) Black Arrow X-3              2TH        $6000   $3/GH     est shipping Feb 24th
2) Black Arrow X-1              100GH    $450     $4.5/GH
3) BITMINE Coincraft Rig     2TH        $12k      $6/GH    est shipping Feb 2nd week
4) BITMINE Antminer
5) KNC Neptune                  3TH        $13k     $4.3/GH  shipping Q1/Q2 so April/May??
6) CoinTerra TerraMiner IV  2TH        $6k        $3/GH     April Batch
7) HashFast Baby Jet          400 GH   $2250    $5.62/GH
Cool HashFast Sierra              1.2 TH    $6300    $5.25/GH
9) BFL Monarch 600            600 GH   $4680    $7.8/GH
10) BFL Monarch 300           300 GH  $2800    $9.3/GH



Looks like Cointerra and Black Arrow are winning the price war.
Did I miss any of the players?

Now really , what are those ... things... doing there?

Seriously, on their site they say they have units in hand ready to ship. I emailed them 2 days ago to confirm this. No reply yet.
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Is there any reputation behind advancedminers? I see their 1.2TH for $6k is scheduled to ship Feb. 3rd to 10th, but haven't seen much verification of that yet.
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Is there any reputation behind advancedminers? I see their 1.2TH for $6k is scheduled to ship Feb. 3rd to 10th, but haven't seen much verification of that yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.0


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December 04, 2013, 05:21:39 PM
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Does any other than KNC has 20 nm ?
Does any other has delivered ASICs in time besides them?
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To make the list a little more inclusive for folks that are smaller scale:

1) Black Arrow X-3              2TH        $6000   $3/GH     est shipping Feb 24th
2) Black Arrow X-1              100GH    $450     $4.5/GH
3) BITMINE Coincraft Rig     2TH        $12k      $6/GH    est shipping Feb 2nd week
4) BITMINE Antminer
5) KNC Neptune                  3TH        $13k     $4.3/GH  shipping Q1/Q2 so April/May??
6) CoinTerra TerraMiner IV  2TH        $6k        $3/GH     April Batch
7) HashFast Baby Jet          400 GH   $2250    $5.62/GH
Cool HashFast Sierra              1.2 TH    $6300    $5.25/GH
9) BFL Monarch 600            600 GH   $4680    $7.8/GH
10) BFL Monarch 300           300 GH  $2800    $9.3/GH



Looks like Cointerra and Black Arrow are winning the price war.
Did I miss any of the players?

Now really , what are those ... things... doing there?

Seriously, on their site they say they have units in hand ready to ship. I emailed them 2 days ago to confirm this. No reply yet.

The Monarch stuff wont be available for a long while.
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