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May 06, 2018, 12:53:50 AM
Last edit: May 06, 2018, 02:39:43 AM by bones261
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I am asking for a friend. My friend is not quite certain, but it appears to him that the amount of smerits coming daily seems to be increasing. Is this on some kind of automated process, or is someone manually turning up the volume because my friend is doing an adequate job. Or does my friend simply not have their figures straight?

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May 06, 2018, 12:59:56 AM
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Probably. Theymos said that the amount of sMerits each source has per month isn't static and that he will adjust it a lot.

By no means is the set of merit sources or their sMerit/month static. I will be adjusting it a lot as needed, especially in the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 100-200 sources in a year from now.

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May 06, 2018, 01:14:11 AM
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Probably. Theymos said that the amount of sMerits each source has per month isn't static and that he will adjust it a lot.

By no means is the set of merit sources or their sMerit/month static. I will be adjusting it a lot as needed, especially in the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 100-200 sources in a year from now.

My friend was made aware that the amount of smerits could increase upon review. However, my friend was under the impression that this would only be once a month or longer. My friend swears that the increase seems to be gaining momentum. Maybe, he is just overwhelmed. He wants to do a good job, but he's beginning to feel like Lucy and Ethel at the chocolate factory.


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May 06, 2018, 01:19:21 AM
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Hate to be that guy but the title should be respectable.

Not sure if he will be awarding sources more smerit or just adding more sources as Theymos sees fit.

I can't remember who but a source had a thread wondering when their smerit would be stocked again as they had run out. I guess if more sources make themselves known they could enlighten us to how many they have been receiving each month

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May 06, 2018, 01:25:44 AM
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Hate to be that guy but the title should be respectable.

Not sure if he will be awarding sources more smerit or just adding more sources as Theymos sees fit.

I can't remember who but a source had a thread wondering when their smerit would be stocked again as they had run out. I guess if more sources make themselves known they could enlighten us to how many they have been receiving each month

My friend seems to be receiving fresh smerit daily. I guess he could sit down and try to calculate it, but he has been busy lately trying to sift through all these posts to try and find posts worthy to merit. I suppose that he could just be more generous since you can award 50 merits in one lump sum if you want to. However, he doesn't want to do a half assed job, and lose the honor altogether.

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May 06, 2018, 01:34:27 AM
Last edit: May 06, 2018, 02:16:40 AM by Steamtyme
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Well good for your friend.
I have noticed there are a few sources out there actively trying to find and merit quality posts. Regardless of whether they are in the sections they normally frequent or not.

If they are  getting smerit daily, is there a chance it is due to them getting merited heavily for their own quality posts? Or is there some sort of notification when their merit source allotment is topped up?

Being a source does have the advantage of being able to apply more merit per post as they will be replenished; I know a lot of us "normies" tossed around smerit like it was payday, and now have less to hand out.

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May 06, 2018, 02:14:37 AM
Last edit: May 06, 2018, 03:02:04 AM by bones261
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Well good for your friend.
I have noticed there are a few sources out there actively trying to find and merit quality posts. Regardless of whether they are in the sections they normally frequent or not.

If they are  getting smerit daily, is there a chance it is due to them getting merited heavily for their own quality posts? Or is there some sort of notification when their merit source allotment is topped up?

Being a source does have the advantage of being able to apply more merit per post as they will be replenished; I know a lot of us "normies" tossed around smerit lime it was payday, and now have less to hand out.

No, the extra smerits are definitely coming from being a source and not getting many smerits from having his posts merited. It appears that when someone is a source, the merit page gives two separate totals. One for smerits gained from the initial allotment plus new smerits earned from getting the posts merited and another total for the smerits given because they are a source.

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May 06, 2018, 02:20:10 AM
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My friend was made aware that the amount of smerits could increase upon review. However, my friend was under the impression that this would only be once a month or longer. My friend swears that the increase seems to be gaining momentum. Maybe, he is just overwhelmed. He wants to do a good job, but he's beginning to feel like Lucy and Ethel at the chocolate factory.
Do you work next to his computer terminal in an office by any chance?  What is it he wants to do a good job at, anyway?  Why are you writing this instead of him?  Did he get banned?  So many questions here.

If he feels like Lucy in that gif, he's likely here for all the wrong reasons.  The bullshit alarm goes off in my head whenever I hear people say how desperate they (or their friends) are to earn merit, how concerned they are about the merit system, or how hard they're working on bitcointalk.  To OP's credit, his English isn't bad at all.  But when you have a typo in a thread title, it makes me cringe.  

"Resectable" is a word, I think, but one that only a surgeon would probably use.

Maybe I got this wrong but between the thread title and the back and forth with OP, I'm assuming their friend is a source.
Ah, that could be.  I tend to read things very cynically, and I may have jumped to the wrong conclusion on this one--though I don't know why the friend would feel overworked as a merit source.  There's no real requirement for them to give out merits to meet a quota that I know of, but I do realize how hard it is to find posts really deserving of them.  At least it's hard to find a variety of posters who deserve them.  I tend to keep meriting the same people over and over, though I do try to find a good mix.

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May 06, 2018, 02:27:15 AM
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Do you work next to his computer terminal in an office by any chance?  What is it he wants to do a good job at, anyway?  Why are you writing this instead of him?  Did he get banned?  So many questions here.

Maybe I got this wrong but between the thread title and the back and forth with OP, I'm assuming their friend is a source.

I have another theory, as OP seems to steadily hand out smerit as well.

It just read to me as they are taking the merit source role seriously and feel obliged to distribute them. I would say this is a good reason to be a part of the community, as it is the role of a source.

Perhaps to the point of feeling over worked. In that case they should take a break, and carry on at a slower pace. I also took from the conversations that they actively seek out the posts not just wait to see if a post comes across them

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May 06, 2018, 02:57:14 AM
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My friend was made aware that the amount of smerits could increase upon review. However, my friend was under the impression that this would only be once a month or longer. My friend swears that the increase seems to be gaining momentum. Maybe, he is just overwhelmed. He wants to do a good job, but he's beginning to feel like Lucy and Ethel at the chocolate factory.
Do you work next to his computer terminal in an office by any chance?  What is it he wants to do a good job at, anyway?  Why are you writing this instead of him?  Did he get banned?  So many questions here.

If he feels like Lucy in that gif, he's likely here for all the wrong reasons.  The bullshit alarm goes off in my head whenever I hear people say how desperate they (or their friends) are to earn merit, how concerned they are about the merit system, or how hard they're working on bitcointalk.  To OP's credit, his English isn't bad at all.  But when you have a typo in a thread title, it makes me cringe.  

"Resectable" is a word, I think, but one that only a surgeon would probably use.

Maybe I got this wrong but between the thread title and the back and forth with OP, I'm assuming their friend is a source.
Ah, that could be.  I tend to read things very cynically, and I may have jumped to the wrong conclusion on this one--though I don't know why the friend would feel overworked as a merit source.  There's no real requirement for them to give out merits to meet a quota that I know of, but I do realize how hard it is to find posts really deserving of them.  At least it's hard to find a variety of posters who deserve them.  I tend to keep meriting the same people over and over, though I do try to find a good mix.

OP title changed. Fat fingers typo. Plus, everyone should know what "asking for a friend" really means...  Grin "My friend" was granted this responsibility by Theymos and wants to do a good job. My friend feels that if he doesn't disperse his daily allotment, he's slacking off on the responsibility given to him. However, sifting through all of these threads to try and find a few gold flecks, is getting to be daunting.
Furthermore, the reason that I am writing this "for a friend" is because "my friend" doesn't want to be inundated with PMs begging for merit.  Cheesy

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May 06, 2018, 03:14:28 AM
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I don't think anyone source has gotten more merits. I know I haven't. The merit source stat page says:
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There are 79 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 17750 sMerit per 30 days
I believe there was 17980 generation before 1 source was removed.

My guess is that your friend just sent more merits on some days than others. Merits that you send come back in 30 days, and he/she may have sent more on certain dates than others. I would tell them to not worry about it, as it is a volunteer thing. I'm pretty sure there's quite a few sources wasting a lot of sMerits (bottom of most generous sent 213 merits).

If they wish to spend merits faster, it might be worth considering giving more. Not sure how much he gives but I've switched to giving most posts 2 merits instead of one.

Also, merit begging though PM doesn't seem like much of an issue. I've publicly stated that I am a source, and have only gotten one PM.

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I don't think anyone source has gotten more merits. I know I haven't. The merit source stat page says:
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There are 79 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 17750 sMerit per 30 days
I believe there was 17980 generation before 1 source was removed.

My guess is that your friend just sent more merits on some days than others. Merits that you send come back in 30 days, and he/she may have sent more on certain dates than others. I would tell them to not worry about it, as it is a volunteer thing I'm pretty sure there's quite a few sources wasting a lot of sMerits (bottom of most generous sent 213 merits).

If they wish to spend merits faster, it might be worth considering giving more. Not sure how much he gives but I've switched to giving most posts 2 merits instead of one.

This answer seems to make the most sense. Now I, uhh, I mean "my friend" has an understanding what is going on. Many thanks. Wink

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May 06, 2018, 04:53:25 AM
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This answer seems to make the most sense. Now I, uhh, I mean "my friend" has an understanding what is going on. Many thanks. Wink


I have another theory, as OP seems to steadily hand out smerit as well.


Yay, I read between the lines almost as well as on them.
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This answer seems to make the most sense. Now I, uhh, I mean "my friend" has an understanding what is going on. Many thanks. Wink

If the OP is a merit source; this is merit flaunting at an altogether new level; you could have simply asked this question without putting up a friend or yourself at all.

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I have another theory, as OP seems to steadily hand out smerit as well.

Pray tell me that what was the initial sMerit all the Legendary accounts received?  Huh

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May 06, 2018, 07:44:44 AM
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I don't think anyone source has gotten more merits. I know I haven't. The merit source stat page says:


Thanks for posting that. I am a source, and I started my private chat room for discussion with some of the other sources without having to admit publicly that you are a source. I haven't received a top up for many days now, and I have been awarding sMerits that I have received from posting. This is why I have backed away slightly from awarding merits. There was a problem with smerits being depleted as you awarded source merits, and Theymos warned about this, and appears to have fixed it. Source merits should be refreshed after 30 days of awarding, but I'm not receiving them, and I'm wondering if my source awards were not being recorded, but were being taken as sMerits. I'm concerned to think that my quota has been depleted because I only award merits singly, with the odd award of 2 for the best posts.

The Fit to Talk English project was started because I was spending so much time trying to read posts with badly constructed and intelligible English, and it is a saddness to me that more members haven't tried to use this service. I can only assume that the ban on signatures, and the fact that posting doesn't earn any activity or merit, makes it unattractive to the bulk of the new members.

I'm encouraged to read that merit beggars are not sending you any PMs. I put anyone who sends me a PM with a hint of begging straight onto ignore.

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