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June 05, 2016, 11:44:03 PM
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So when this goes through and millions quit their jobs to live off this foolishness, where is the money supposed to come from??
More money gets wasted on war ..Where does all the money come from to build battle ships and what ever other weapon you could think of?...
And these companies are private. I take your tax money and buy my friends weapons he gives me a cut..I spend 1 billion on weapons that only cost 100 million the 900 million we will pay our selves the money and give the company that made them there 100 million plus a 100 million more as a bonus
because they all sold..
Now we can split the 800 million between all our top heads but i want 300 million because i am the boss and you can split the rest between the 30 managers..

1 billion got split between 31 people it was tax payers money
Money on weapons how does it help the poor or the roads or hospitals schools

But just think of this for every 1 billion spent on wasted government projects it can give
22000 people 40k for free so how many billion gets wasted on government projects..

Medicine Same drugs gone up as much as 1 thousand fold..
And why because i am in power and my friend owns a drug company and i get a cut on the profits he makes because i put the price up on these drugs.. Because we have to pay more because they need to do more research to find new drugs..lie lie lie...

All these billions wasted and not collected could go into trillions..

So just think for every billion wasted on government policies 22 THOUSAND PEOPLE Shocked could get 40k for free..SO COULD IT BE DONE?
One day it's got to happen robots will be used more than humans for work no doubt about it..
I thinks 10 years we will see many many with no jobs because of robots..

Plus why do politicians go to the bilderberg group,,TO MAKE MONEY ..I MAKE IT FOR MY COUNTRY..
BUT I MOSTLY MAKE IT FOR MYSELF...

Also a woman can have 10 kids and get 40k of the government for free right now ..
The more kids you have the more you get in the UK

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June 06, 2016, 07:30:49 AM
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So, people in Switzerland rejected this proposal on national referendum.
I'm not surprise with such outcome.
They are hard working people and also very realistic.
They understand very well that ''there is no such thing as free lunch'' and that this money should come from somewhere, most likely from increased taxes.
People who suggested such idea didn't really explain from where they will collect money for ''basic income''.
We should inspire people to work and help them with jobs, not help them to stay at home and do nothing.



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June 06, 2016, 09:17:25 AM
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So, people in Switzerland rejected this proposal on national referendum.
I'm not surprise with such outcome.
They are hard working people and also very realistic.
They understand very well that ''there is no such thing as free lunch'' and that this money should come from somewhere, most likely from increased taxes.
People who suggested such idea didn't really explain from where they will collect money for ''basic income''.
We should inspire people to work and help them with jobs, not help them to stay at home and do nothing.




I absolutely agree with this. Doing nothing is not healthy for the person who is doing nothing in the first place. There would be a lot of suicides in a country with such monthly ‘basic income’. I'm glad the Swiss people rejected the stupid idea.

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June 06, 2016, 09:33:13 AM
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looks like common sense has prevailed

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June 06, 2016, 11:02:47 PM
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I need to promote this to every homeless person in LA to go to switzerland.

So we can actually have a decent state to pay less taxes.

But overall though, thats pretty absurd - if that was here in the US I`d fucken cry so hard.
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June 07, 2016, 01:14:14 AM
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looks like common sense has prevailed

Still, I am alarmed by the fact that more than 23% of the voters (568,905 out of 2,465,868) were in favor of the proposal. Also, the Swiss voters are not using their brains recently. A proposal to expel foreign criminals was rejected by an 18% margin recently. And the voters have approved a proposal to speed up the asylum applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_referendums,_2016
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June 08, 2016, 08:14:29 PM
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Wow!! a basic income for life! Then I wouldn't have to work anymore. That wouldn't work, after all, who would pay the politicians? Who do they think they are? USA?
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June 08, 2016, 08:23:29 PM
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Don't worry. This is what will happen when robots take over all the jobs.

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June 09, 2016, 09:32:50 AM
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Don't worry. This is what will happen when robots take over all the jobs.

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June 09, 2016, 10:34:15 AM
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Don't worry. This is what will happen when robots take over all the jobs.

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We won't allow them to! Remember The Matrix, first they take all the jobs, next they take all the power. If we want to live like free humans we should do most of the jobs by ourselves.

Even when there are massive productivity gains to be had from automation? The same benefits of the first Industrial Revolution come with the fourth! But still I consider the requisite taxation to be theft

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June 09, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
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the elderly needs more than anyone else, maybe its thier way saying thanks to the elderly for if it weren't for them they wouldn't be there too.
elderly needs medicine from time to time. its the least that they can do. the y0oung ones will benefit later when they grow old.









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June 09, 2016, 04:37:18 PM
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the elderly needs more than anyone else, maybe its thier way saying thanks to the elderly for if it weren't for them they wouldn't be there too.
elderly needs medicine from time to time. its the least that they can do. the y0oung ones will benefit later when they grow old.

Is it about age? If anything it's discriminatory towards the elderly because funds that might otherwise be put towards those aforementioned services are being directed to everyone equally

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