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December 06, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
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Hi all,

We (SatoshiAces) have only been around for about a month, but already got hacked, robbed and cheated on a numerous occasions. We'd love to share our experiences and what little advice we might have amassed with those who might be in a similar position we were a few weeks ago. We hope that others can also share some valuable information that could be helpful to us as well as others like us and thus this thread.

To start us off: what are some reliable BTC gambling affiliates, blogs or alternative ways to promote projects like ours?

We know bitcoincasinopro, bitcoinreviewer, bitcoingamblingsites.com, bitcoingamblingreview.com and others from the google search pages. Most require some strange upfront payments of multiple BTC for the full year ahead and refuse to provide any meaningful statistics or trial periods that could justify such commitments. It would be extremely helpful if anyone here with experience and knowledge would help shed some light on this. It is our hope that collectively we can help tell apart real worthwhile affiliates and partners from scammers and their like.

Looking forward to your thoughts
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December 06, 2013, 12:59:31 PM
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I have a flawless reputation on BitcoinTalk, #bitcoin-otc and many other sites.

Bitcoin Reviewer can bring you real players who are ready to gamble with real bitcoins. I think it is safe to say that we are one of the top resources for Bitcoin gamblers.
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You should watch out for Alan Karre Jr who runs bitcoin casino pro. He has a very bad reputation for openly lying and deceiving users. In fact, he has had complaints even since 2006 in other forums: AK, Major Wager & Stolen Databases

Here are some threads about his scams:
BITCOIN CASINO PRO SCAM - LYING, AND STEALING FROM THE COMMUNITY
BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior | More Evidence!
real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues

Many new casinos fall for his advertising scams because he makes big promises of "thousands of users, authority official website etc." but it is all lies. He lies about it being the "official" guide because no bitcoin users actually refer to his site (they know it is a joke and scam). And the traffic stats on his website are fake. He puts fake links to trick people (for example SatoshiDice link redirects to his BitZino affiliate link so he can make more bit cents)

In fact many companies think it is important to pay him to get a "Official BCP A+++++ rating" but actually this rating is useless. Nobody gives 2 shits about bitcoin casino pro in this community and i guarantee you that maybe one or two people only will read the "review". it looks like he hired some overseas worker to write them for $1, or maybe he is just illiterate.

I know that sooner or later, he will go to this thread or send an email and make an excuse that they are just trying to slander his name. Why don't you ask this question? How come other sites get good feedback?

Obviously Bitcoin casino pro is the worst site out of the bunch and the owner is simply a dirty thief. OP you have been warned.

tl;dr: bitcoin casino pro = SCAM, do not advertise

source: bitcoin gambler since 2012, tried nearly every casino and sportsbook that has come up
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December 06, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
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I have a flawless reputation on BitcoinTalk, #bitcoin-otc and many other sites.

Bitcoin Reviewer can bring you real players who are ready to gamble with real bitcoins. I think it is safe to say that we are one of the top resources for Bitcoin gamblers.


Thank you, we do look forward to cooperating with you, we'll gladly leave good feedback here in this thread, once we get started and things do go well =)


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December 06, 2013, 01:51:27 PM
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Thanks Gotta go fast!

Indeed we were in touch with bitcoincasinopro already. We can only say that so far from our experience they are at the very least extremely good at approaching early startups. They were the absolute first to offer us advertisement and "premium packages" for a huge sum upfront for a full year for thousands of players, whales etc. We can also confirm that it's likely that what you said about him not writing the reviews himself is true. They wrote a review about us, giving us a C+ in one place http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/, B- in another http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/satoshi-aces/. What's strange is in both places we were correctly indicated to be provably fair, and yet, their account on this forum accused us on our own thread of not being such.

"In order to be provably fair you need to allow the user to 'cut the deck' in some way.  Otherwise all you're doing is proving that you decided which hand to give the user before they played rather than during.

If you don't take input from the user after providing them with a hash of your secret then you could still be skewing the distribution of hands in your favour.  It needs to be set up such that there's no way you can 'throw away' high value shuffles." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325535.260

In any case, thanks to you, there is no chance we'll work with them in their proposed format of upfront BTC, and we suggest that no one else reading this does, until they are able to prove their reliability convincingly first here or elsewhere...

You should watch out for Alan Karre Jr who runs bitcoin casino pro. He has a very bad reputation for openly lying and deceiving users. In fact, he has had complaints even since 2006 in other forums: AK, Major Wager & Stolen Databases

Here are some threads about his scams:
BITCOIN CASINO PRO SCAM - LYING, AND STEALING FROM THE COMMUNITY
BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior | More Evidence!
real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues

Many new casinos fall for his advertising scams because he makes big promises of "thousands of users, authority official website etc." but it is all lies. He lies about it being the "official" guide because no bitcoin users actually refer to his site (they know it is a joke and scam). And the traffic stats on his website are fake. He puts fake links to trick people (for example SatoshiDice link redirects to his BitZino affiliate link so he can make more bit cents)

In fact many companies think it is important to pay him to get a "Official BCP A+++++ rating" but actually this rating is useless. Nobody gives 2 shits about bitcoin casino pro in this community and i guarantee you that maybe one or two people only will read the "review". it looks like he hired some overseas worker to write them for $1, or maybe he is just illiterate.

I know that sooner or later, he will go to this thread or send an email and make an excuse that they are just trying to slander his name. Why don't you ask this question? How come other sites get good feedback?

Obviously Bitcoin casino pro is the worst site out of the bunch and the owner is simply a dirty thief. OP you have been warned.

tl;dr: bitcoin casino pro = SCAM, do not advertise

source: bitcoin gambler since 2012, tried nearly every casino and sportsbook that has come up

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