Possibly some more 5830's about to come out at newegg

[mike678]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&Description=&Type=&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A55389

They have both get them quickly!

edit:Apparently they are fake in stock atm. I have seen this though and usually in a few hours they are officially in stock.

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[pekv2]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&Description=&Type=&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A55389

They have both get them quickly!

OUT OF STOCK

And read/look at this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36272.0

[mike678]

oh lol I didn't check a card specifically. That doesn't mean they are not about to go on sale. In the past Ive seen this happen and I watched the site for an hour or two and it finally accepted me adding it to my cart. So I guess just be vigilant.

[pekv2]

oh lol I didn't check a card specifically. That doesn't mean they are not about to go on sale. In the past Ive seen this happen and I watched the site for an hour or two and it finally accepted me adding it to my cart. So I guess just be vigilant.

Now it's back, but I cannot add it to cart LOLz@newegg.

[AngelusWebDesign]

Who's still buying cards?

The 5830 only brings in 0.129 BTC a day -- after electricity, that's $1.15 a day.
Not exactly a killing.
That assumes no difficulty increases and no further crashes in BTC price.

[mike678]

Who's still buying cards?

The 5830 only brings in 0.129 BTC a day -- after electricity, that's $1.15 a day.
Not exactly a killing.
That assumes no difficulty increases and no further crashes in BTC price.

At least get your numbers straight if your going to criticize. A 5830 can generate .16 btc a day at 300 mhash or .176 at 330 which is possible at good temps (I'm doing it.)

Lets be honest if you are investing in bitcoins you shouldn't be looking at the short term price. If you don't think the price will be up in a couple months then stop mining completely your basically wasting your time but if you think the price will go up eventually why not get a head start? The difficulty is only going to go higher as bitcoins reveals its self as very profitable.

If we have to play the price right now game it only costs me 6.7c per kwh so it costs me 32 cents per day to run one. That means I'm making 5.5 times more then what it costs for electricity. That's not bad.

[AngelusWebDesign]

I'm tempted to start a thread "Who's running 5830's and getting less than 300 Mhash"

By reading this board, I think there'd be just one post in the thread!

But actually I'm sure there are some others out there. The card's stock settings are 250 Mhash/s and if you have the wrong motherboard (or cooling situation, climate, etc.) the 1st card in the system can get very hot.

I have 1 Asusrock motherboard (the rest were all sent back defective) that has the 2 PCI-E slots very close together.
Turns out there's a much better mobo for $10 more that has *much* better placement of the PCI-E slots, plus it's a better board.

Anyhow, unless you're running Windows, it's also difficult to mess with the card's voltage. All my cards are stock voltage. I'm running Linux.

[mike678]

I'm tempted to start a thread "Who's running 5830's and getting less than 300 Mhash"

By reading this board, I think there'd be just one post in the thread!

But actually I'm sure there are some others out there. The card's stock settings are 250 Mhash/s and if you have the wrong motherboard (or cooling situation, climate, etc.) the 1st card in the system can get very hot.

I have 1 Asusrock motherboard (the rest were all sent back defective) that has the 2 PCI-E slots very close together.
Turns out there's a much better mobo for $10 more that has *much* better placement of the PCI-E slots, plus it's a better board.

Anyhow, unless you're running Windows, it's also difficult to mess with the card's voltage. All my cards are stock voltage. I'm running Linux.

With the phatk 2.2 update I'm pretty sure stock would be a lot higher. What you point out about picking the wrong mobo is the users fault not the cards. Also I never have touched any of the voltages on any of my cards and I can still achieve the high speeds I get.

[pekv2]

I'm tempted to start a thread "Who's running 5830's and getting less than 300 Mhash"

By reading this board, I think there'd be just one post in the thread!

But actually I'm sure there are some others out there. The card's stock settings are 250 Mhash/s and if you have the wrong motherboard (or cooling situation, climate, etc.) the 1st card in the system can get very hot.

I have 1 Asusrock motherboard (the rest were all sent back defective) that has the 2 PCI-E slots very close together.
Turns out there's a much better mobo for $10 more that has *much* better placement of the PCI-E slots, plus it's a better board.

Anyhow, unless you're running Windows, it's also difficult to mess with the card's voltage. All my cards are stock voltage. I'm running Linux.

My XFX 5830 @ stock is 800core 1000mem. When I am @ the pc, it is at 1010core 600Mem @ 313-14 Mhash/s, when afk, its at 1030core and 695 mem @ 324 Mhash/s. For this card I have, does not allow me to change voltages, even if flashed, it is missing a voltage hardware component to allow me to change"xfx idea". Lowest I can go for mem is 500Mhz but then it is not stable.

I will be looking into another card in ten days or so, by then, maybe I'll have enough mined for a 5850, if not I'll go for another 5830 and build up.

[makomk]

Lets be honest if you are investing in bitcoins you shouldn't be looking at the short term price. If you don't think the price will be up in a couple months then stop mining completely your basically wasting your time but if you think the price will go up eventually why not get a head start?

Because it might be cheaper just to buy some bitcoins?

[mike678]

Lets be honest if you are investing in bitcoins you shouldn't be looking at the short term price. If you don't think the price will be up in a couple months then stop mining completely your basically wasting your time but if you think the price will go up eventually why not get a head start?

Because it might be cheaper just to buy some bitcoins?

It's safer to invest in hardware so you have a backup if you're wrong. Plus eventually you'll have more bitcoins then you could have if you invested in bitcoins directly. If you argue you can keep selling high buying low thats way more risk then I feel comfortable with.

[Blackout]

I have three 5830s in my main machine and they all run at 330 mhash except for the 1st one that is my display.  I can only get 310 out of that or it crashes. So i have 970 mhash coming when I am not using the machine.. about 800 if I am using it (I lower the first cards aggressiveness to 3) This is on Win 7 64 bit ultimate.

I have the opposite effect... my lowest card gets hottest because it is closest to my power supply which is on the bottom of my antec 1200 case - I'm on a evga x58 mobo which has  4 pci-e slots but of course not spaced right, so the lowest card has it's exhaust vent blocked and runs hotter, but still doesn't get above 70 - 71c running full speed.  The middle card runs a full 10c cooler... and the top card runs at about 69c at 310 mhash.

To me it was an easy choice and not a big investment since I sold my old hd 4850 x2 for $100... that's $30 to replace it with a 5830.. then $260 to add two more.. total investment $290... I have about 20 bitcoins now in a month so that's almost fully paid for the cards. A worth while deal.

Now to build or not to build another mining rig from scratch... that is the question... I just don't know... i wish you could just keep daisy chaining video cards without having to buy more mother boards....

[DrKennethNoisewater]

Lets be honest if you are investing in bitcoins you shouldn't be looking at the short term price. If you don't think the price will be up in a couple months then stop mining completely your basically wasting your time but if you think the price will go up eventually why not get a head start?

Because it might be cheaper just to buy some bitcoins?

It's safer to invest in hardware so you have a backup if you're wrong. Plus eventually you'll have more bitcoins then you could have if you invested in bitcoins directly. If you argue you can keep selling high buying low thats way more risk then I feel comfortable with.

Agreed.

Also, try to imagine 2-3 years down the road when you own nodes on the network, or "virtual bank branches."

Assuming the project works long term, these will have value.

[PcChip]

Lowest I can go for mem is 500Mhz but then it is not stable.

Try TriXX

[Blackout]

Lowest I can go for mem is 500Mhz but then it is not stable.

Try TriXX

The 400-500 mem areas are not stable... you need to be in the 300s.  I find 320 works very well and stable for hashing but not well if I am using the machine for any graphics function at all.  So two of my 5830s are at  320mem and 1030 clock.. pumping out 330 mhash
 
The top one, connected to my display is at 900 mem 900 clock, and I can use the system stably while still getting about 260 mhash... if I drop the clock, and brose the web or do antyhing graphic wise... many times it freezes and locks up.

You also have to play with the pool you are on and see what IT likes most.  When I maxed out my cards elgius was showing my a lot less hashrate then I showed... when I chilled down a little and lowered some agreesions I suddenly got MUCH higher readings from elgius. I'm currently getting about 1200 to 1250 WHILE using the machine when before I had everything overclocked to the max and was getting 980 to 1140

[CanaryInTheMine]

I sure hope that by now ALL 5830 inventories have dried up.

it's about frikin' time they stop selling these mysteriously turning up inventories of brand spanking new 5830s.

Be gone! be very gone 5830!!!

[critical]

there is still 5830 selling here in singapore thou

[Blackout]

I sure hope that by now ALL 5830 inventories have dried up.

it's about frikin' time they stop selling these mysteriously turning up inventories of brand spanking new 5830s.

Be gone! be very gone 5830!!!

Why do you want them to be gone? They're they best bang for buck card?

[CanaryInTheMine]

I sure hope that by now ALL 5830 inventories have dried up.

it's about frikin' time they stop selling these mysteriously turning up inventories of brand spanking new 5830s.

Be gone! be very gone 5830!!!

Why do you want them to be gone? They're they best bang for buck card?

i don't want any more miners LOL
also, i have a bunch to sell. when newegg does not have any to sell. I sell at a nice profit.   purely profit reasons.

[mike678]

I think its been a month since I've seen a new 5830 at a store. They honestly might be gone.