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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 11, 2013, 02:48:02 AM
#41
Quote from: po1992one on December 11, 2013, 02:44:47 AM
Quote from: Gator-hex on December 11, 2013, 01:43:26 AM
Although they have another law for that, if you don't hand over you password when requested by a court, you get more jail time. God help those who are genuinely forgetful!
Whats the difference between 10 years if you give password and say 15 years if you dont ? You will be out in 2/3 of jailtime anyway if your not problematic, so why give your Bitcoins to gov !
Ya especially if you own millions. I would just pass it on to a lawyer since they cant record whats going on between the person and a lawyer.
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 16, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
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Quote from: masterlogin on December 16, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: BurtW on December 10, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
They [edit: they = the FBI] already moved them (so they have the keys). Some are here:
http://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX
The rest are here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH
So, by moving the coins and consolidating them they have been shown to own them.
This may not be all of them but it is the BTC that the FBI has found so far.
Sir, by the way, who is owner account above?!?
AFAIK both of the above accounts are owned by the FBI. In other words the FBI has the private keys to these two accounts.
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 16, 2013, 07:18:16 PM
#43
Quote from: BurtW on December 16, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: masterlogin on December 16, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: BurtW on December 10, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
They [edit: they = the FBI] already moved them (so they have the keys). Some are here:
http://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX
The rest are here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH
So, by moving the coins and consolidating them they have been shown to own them.
This may not be all of them but it is the BTC that the FBI has found so far.
Sir, by the way, who is owner account above?!?
AFAIK both of the above accounts are owned by the FBI. In other words the FBI has the private keys to these two accounts.
FBI should give the private keys to central bank, so US could get Bitcoin reserve for future.
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 16, 2013, 07:21:26 PM
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My understanding is that they are required by law to sell seized assets at auction, but it would be interesting if they found a way to keep them for potential future value. Either way, it will be interesting to see the eventual outcome, whether they offload them or become a speculator
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 16, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
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The problem I see with bitcoins is that, like all fiat money, their value depends on trust. As long as there are safer and/or more convenient alternatives, bitcoins are susceptable to panic selling and counterfeiting.
Bitcoins have no intrinsic value. They can be used for obtaining goods and/or services only as long as the providers will accept them.
I consider bitcoins to be "No-Penny Stocks" and predict that they will be subject to the same abuses as the penny stock market, and with less regulation.
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 16, 2013, 08:54:23 PM
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Quote from: Kaligulax on December 16, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
The problem I see with bitcoins is that ... bitcoins are susceptable to ... counterfeiting.
Explain how.
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 16, 2013, 09:38:40 PM
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Yeah the US needs money, so why not!
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 17, 2013, 12:15:34 AM
#48
Quote from: masyveonk on December 16, 2013, 07:18:16 PM
Quote from: BurtW on December 16, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: masterlogin on December 16, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: BurtW on December 10, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
They [edit: they = the FBI] already moved them (so they have the keys). Some are here:
http://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX
The rest are here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH
So, by moving the coins and consolidating them they have been shown to own them.
This may not be all of them but it is the BTC that the FBI has found so far.
Sir, by the way, who is owner account above?!?
AFAIK both of the above accounts are owned by the FBI. In other words the FBI has the private keys to these two accounts.
FBI should give the private keys to central bank, so US could get Bitcoin reserve for future.
United States pawns everything
Whats funny is that people keep on donating to the addresses, and have a public note with advertisements!
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Re: Can the U.S. government sell seized bitcoins?
December 17, 2013, 06:09:34 AM
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Government agencies & financial institutions (at least in some Countries) are not allowed to 'dabble' or deal in bitcoins. Thus the only way they can 'play' the game is to seize.
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