Bubbles

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I know the bond market is in a 100 plus bubble and this is where im placing my bets.

Really?  I don't follow the bond market, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're corporate bonds--I'm sure debt is rising just as fast in the business world as it is with government.  Debt never interested me as a speculative instrument, though.  I shall watch from afar.

Now, how about crypto?  I've had a lingering suspicion that bitcoin has been in a bubble for some time now, though after the most recent correction from its ATH I now have doubts--it could just be a growing market, who knows.  The other bubble that might be forming is in the stock market with social media stocks and whatnot.  Right now it just looks like a strong bull market, and there's a big difference.  I can vividly recall the internet stock boom of the 90s, and today's stock market doesn't feel like that at all.  We'll see, I guess.

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[dothebeats]

Bond market perhaps would be one of the worst bubble bursts alongside the most notable bubbles such as the tulip mania and the dotcom bubble. Literally, everyone is making money out of nothing, just some shares and dividends mandated by corporations and big ass companies. On the other hand, crypto has had its bubbles and it already popped IMO. Before, I used to think that bitcoin is one of the worst asset to ever invented due to it being susceptible to market manipulation that often result to bubbles but now, with a large user base and growing support from people, it feels as if the cryptocurrency market is just growing or people are just taking a grasp of it. We don't know what's the next biggest bubble to burst, but I also place my bets on the bond markets and other tech-related startups since almost everyone is banking on "likes" and not real value nowadays.

[EVOS]

Is bitcoin included in the phenomenon "Bubble"?
I think like that, because the price is very expensive and until now has not reached the highest price anymore ..
What do you think ?

[timerland]

I would say that crypto, in the form of ICOs, are probably currently in a bubble.

I'm not saying that bitcoin is a bubble. In fact, I think that BTC is probably the most profitable & sustainable long term investment you are able to make right now, especially after the adjustments that took place during this bear market.

But, it's easy to say that a lot of companies & projects that are currently issuing their own tokens have their values artificially boosted. A lot of crypto projects currently aren't even decentralized, but in fact, just money making schemes for the founders and marketers. A lot don't even have any purpose whatsoever, and yet the prices are being driven up by speculators. This is unlike bitcoin, as there is a need for a decentralized and independent currency, and it's also the first crypto. But all the ICOs currently popping up, I just don't see the value of most sustaining in the long term, although this could go on for a lot longer.

[BitHodler]

I would say that crypto, in the form of ICOs, are probably currently in a bubble.

ICOs are definitely a bubble. If you overpay in the worst possible way for something that is just an idea, and the overall industry is exactly like that, then know that it is a bubble for sure.

In most cases the major part of the ICO tokens are stored on exchanges for ever, and that purely for their returns, and not actual use. I doubt people even know what they have invested in. It's one big clown show.

Nowadays if a group of nerds or a greedy company has an idea, they'll sell you worthless tokens in order to allocate a small percentage of that for project development, and the rest is to fill up their own wallet.

[Hydrogen]

Here is a brief breakdown of some of the more famous bubbles in history.

the dutch tulip bubble (1630, first ever recorded)
the south sea bubble (1720)
Japan stock/real estate bubble (1990)
.COM bubble (2002)
USA housing bubble (2008)

Where is the next bubble going to appear. I know the bond market is in a 100 plus bubble and this is where im placing my bets.

The student loan bubble could be a concern as its measured in billions and a large proportion of it is likely to not be paid off for a long time, if ever. There's a subprime auto market for car loans and potentially another subprime mortgage bubble. One key issue with those bubbles could be them all being denominated in us dollars. If the US federal government ever defaulted on its debt and fiat devalued significantly it could multiply a net effect of negative implications these bubbles pose.

Overspending bubbles created from cost overruns on defense programs like lockheed martin's F-35 could pose a danger as could bubbles created by wars in the middle east and anti terrorism measures which cost trillions and may sometimes produce questionable results. Then there are other potential issues like credit card and personal debt bubbles.

In a way, it could be pointless to label bitcoin a "bubble" when major and significant portions of the world economy may be bubblish to relatively higher degrees.

[Dimon8]

think that the next bubble is $ USD, this currency is based on oil. Currently, technologies are being developed that will make it possible to use alternative sources of energy in the future. Thus, oil will become unclaimed and lose its value. Probably will create crypto USD

[Nerman]

I would say that crypto, in the form of ICOs, are probably currently in a bubble.

I'm not saying that bitcoin is a bubble. In fact, I think that BTC is probably the most profitable & sustainable long term investment you are able to make right now, especially after the adjustments that took place during this bear market.

But, it's easy to say that a lot of companies & projects that are currently issuing their own tokens have their values artificially boosted. A lot of crypto projects currently aren't even decentralized, but in fact, just money making schemes for the founders and marketers. A lot don't even have any purpose whatsoever, and yet the prices are being driven up by speculators. This is unlike bitcoin, as there is a need for a decentralized and independent currency, and it's also the first crypto. But all the ICOs currently popping up, I just don't see the value of most sustaining in the long term, although this could go on for a lot longer.

I agree just like with the dotcom bubble many companies dies but the best is still in the market and is still soaring high. I think it will also happen in the crypto market many shit coins will crash and die out and only the best coins will stay on the market. For what coins is going to stay I do not know but I am confident that Bitcoin is here to stay.

[Kemarit]

Bond market perhaps would be one of the worst bubble bursts alongside the most notable bubbles such as the tulip mania and the dotcom bubble. Literally, everyone is making money out of nothing, just some shares and dividends mandated by corporations and big ass companies. On the other hand, crypto has had its bubbles and it already popped IMO. Before, I used to think that bitcoin is one of the worst asset to ever invented due to it being susceptible to market manipulation that often result to bubbles but now, with a large user base and growing support from people, it feels as if the cryptocurrency market is just growing or people are just taking a grasp of it. We don't know what's the next biggest bubble to burst, but I also place my bets on the bond markets and other tech-related startups since almost everyone is banking on "likes" and not real value nowadays.

Well, Allan Grenspan himself says that the bond market is a bubble and it is being to unwind so its going to be interested as to what will happen if this bubble is burst.

Is bitcoin included in the phenomenon "Bubble"?
I think like that, because the price is very expensive and until now has not reached the highest price anymore ..
What do you think ?

It is still debateable as far as I'm concern. Its an open-ended discussions for many years now in the future. There was even a graph, a eerie similar to NASDAQ Tech bubbles of 2000's. But I think what separates bitcoin from the rest of the bubble in history is its price volatility, I don't think that the dotcom bubbles have experienced this wild price swings. And if we ever sees the market suddenly crashes, it has the ability to recover and bounce back, so it's really hard to consider this asset as bubble, in my opinion.

[bowals]

The next bubble is the crypto currency bubble. It's waxing stronger and stronger everyday

[Deubila]

The real estate bubble is still going on in some countries, and housing prices have absolutely gone berserk again after the recovery from 2008. If this trend continues, it could potentially brew up into something huge again. Hopefully though that the adjustment comes sooner than later so that the consequences of this real estate bubble v2 isn't as big as the GFC.

A lot of people are saying that crypto is the next big bubble, but honestly it's just the natural cycle of bullishness and bearishness that went on in BTC ever since that it was first traded. That boom/bust cycle has always existed, and the extent or the potential damage of which is probably much lesser than the other bubbles, like real estate. Really depends on how you view the word "bubble".

Bonds can definitely be in a big bubble right now as well, Greenspan himself said so.

I think so. In this market there are winners, but do not be upset because every action is due to your psychological factors that cause.
The balloon phenomenon is the way you look at it, look at it positively, the results will be positive. Good psychology decides 90% of the fight.

[bitcoinisbest]

Is bitcoin included in the phenomenon "Bubble"?
I think like that, because the price is very expensive and until now has not reached the highest price anymore ..
What do you think ?

Not really expensive if you the price at 18k was more expensive than what it is today at 8300$. So ideally the price is cheap at present and should be starting soon to climb up and before it becomes more expensive you should buy it.

[BTCeminjas]

Used to refer to a significant, usually rapid, increase in asset prices that is soon followed by a collapse in prices and typically arises from speculation or enthusiasm rather than intrinsic increases in value. Whatever happened positive or negative results is refer a good or fortunate situation that is isolated from reality or unlikely to last.

[Voidcrafter]

Here is a brief breakdown of some of the more famous bubbles in history.

the dutch tulip bubble (1630, first ever recorded)
the south sea bubble (1720)
Japan stock/real estate bubble (1990)
.COM bubble (2002)
USA housing bubble (2008)

Where is the next bubble going to appear. I know the bond market is in a 100 plus bubble and this is where im placing my bets.

I fully agree with you that the bond market has been experiencing great difficulties for a long time. The price in some market segments is so high that there is obvious overbought or oversold. the bond market is completely dependent on the rumors that all traders use. There are no obvious real reasons for the rise or fall, only rumors.

[GangNamSK]

Is bitcoin included in the phenomenon "Bubble"?
I think like that, because the price is very expensive and until now has not reached the highest price anymore ..
What do you think ?

Not really expensive if you the price at 18k was more expensive than what it is today at 8300$. So ideally the price is cheap at present and should be starting soon to climb up and before it becomes more expensive you should buy it.

Wealth will come to those who grasp the opportunity and have strong faith. Do not keep track of it much leads to unsteady minds to continue to participate. There should be clear strategies to achieve the goal. It will also increase the price of investors, so peace of mind.

[georgiasus]

in my opinion, our world economic system is a bubble. Soon all will burst. She is living out the last years

[Ponti]

Here is a brief breakdown of some of the more famous bubbles in history.

the dutch tulip bubble (1630, first ever recorded)
the south sea bubble (1720)
Japan stock/real estate bubble (1990)
.COM bubble (2002)
USA housing bubble (2008)

Where is the next bubble going to appear. I know the bond market is in a 100 plus bubble and this is where im placing my bets.

Nice reference mate. I don’t know whether you directly or indirectly implied your words on crypto market. We are on the crypto forum after all. Nevertheless don’t forget that when BTC reached 100 USD it was called a bubble, when it reached 1k the same was said. Today we are at 6-7k region and a lot of people still call it a bubble. Being in "crypto" for quite a while. BTC really needs vast improvements and lightning network is already here, don’t know if the "Project Dandelion" will ever be finished but with current BTC price we can already see that its hardly making to 10k.

[Bumblecoin]

Here is a brief breakdown of some of the more famous bubbles in history.

the dutch tulip bubble (1630, first ever recorded)
the south sea bubble (1720)
Japan stock/real estate bubble (1990)
.COM bubble (2002)
USA housing bubble (2008)

Where is the next bubble going to appear. I know the bond market is in a 100 plus bubble and this is where im placing my bets.

I think everything in here is a bubble. The only difference is that there are some that disappear faster than the others. What I mean is no thing is permanent in this world.

[talenah kotang]

The next bubble is the crypto currency bubble. It's waxing stronger and stronger everyday

Yes That's right, bitcoin has shown it at the end of last year. but now the price has fallen. Things like that have become natural law. bubbles at prices easily occur depending on demand.

[RandyGamage]

I think the most popular bubble is the dutch tulip bubble which occured in 1630, many people talk about it and say that the same thing will happen to bitcoin calling bitcoin will become a bubble too. they used to say when bitcoin collapsed this time. but this so called bitcoin bubble still not blasted.