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December 15, 2013, 06:04:48 AM |
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We would like to see what is your source for this, that's all. Don't feel offended. We just wanna save peoples time in doing a useless verification.
What do you mean source? My computer was hacked. There were strange things on my computer in the time of the hack that I ignored. I'm telling anyone who has a Windows computer and is interested that if they do the above test they will know whether they have whatever hit my computer. There were other oddities that were not predictable and easily tested. On Firefox sometimes in the last week a black bar would cover the lower left where an address should be. I also sometimes use other browsers and don't remember anything on them. Sometimes when I would press a letter or number on the keyboard nothing would happen until I pressed a second time. All this is only in the time of the hack, not ever in the last many many years except in the last 2 weeks plus. What source do you want? None. I read enough. Moving on.
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December 15, 2013, 08:17:25 AM |
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I'd have thought OP would've learnt his lesson after mistaking his screen saver for a virus. Guess not. This helpful Venn diagram should make things clear: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimgs.xkcd.com%2Fcomics%2Fvirus_venn_diagram.png&t=665&c=JxkZLTQgdtfxWA) Protip: Actual viruses are designed to not leave obvious clues that you have a virus. Actual hackers are careful to not leave obvious clues that you have been hacked. If something is obviously wrong with your computer, especially if that something has nothing to do with anything a virus or hacker would have a reason to do ( Why would a hacker change your Start button? There's absolutely no reason for a hacker to do that.), then chances are it's not a virus or hacker.
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December 15, 2013, 02:32:57 PM |
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Learned what lersson? Apparently I made a mistake, I then corrected myself. What lesson did I not learn? (Why would a hacker change your Start button? There's absolutely no reason for a hacker to do that.), then chances are it's not a virus or hacker.
It would seem likely that the hacker did notdo that on purpose. It is simply a flaw in the hacker program. It would have been useful to me to know about it a week ago.
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December 15, 2013, 02:40:28 PM |
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1. throw pc out of the window 2. use magnets on your hard drive
congrats, you're hack free
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December 15, 2013, 02:43:27 PM |
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(Why would a hacker change your Start button? There's absolutely no reason for a hacker to do that.), then chances are it's not a virus or hacker.
It would seem likely that the hacker did notdo that on purpose. It is simply a flaw in the hacker program. It would have been useful to me to know about it a week ago. So , you're telling me that you're going through all those steps each time you use your computer to check if your virus free?
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December 15, 2013, 09:39:51 PM |
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1. throw pc out of the window 2. use magnets on your hard drive
congrats, you're hack free
pc out the window pisses off the neighbors, otherwise it works.
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December 15, 2013, 09:42:07 PM Last edit: December 16, 2013, 02:00:15 AM by akwfleaspirit |
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So , you're telling me that you're going through all those steps each time you use your computer to check if your virus free?
-delete- I do it when it seems prudent. I'll probably create a non admin user on every Windows pc I have from now on and log in and out of that at least every few weeks. I'm not telling anyone else to do it.
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December 15, 2013, 10:20:47 PM |
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I'm pretty sure that mine isn't being hacked ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 16, 2013, 02:01:38 AM |
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I'm pretty sure that mine isn't being hacked ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Almost everyone is sure. Most are right. Some not.
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December 16, 2013, 02:16:14 AM |
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Have you thought to mabey do some of the following? 1. Identify the problem & fix the problem. 2. Take steps to not allow said problem to happen again. If you are wondering what I am talking about. Computer A. is infected with an unknown virus, it is running Windows XP SP3 (I hope SP3), with obviously no anti virus software and no firewall protection. Diagnose. Shutdown computer A. immediately. Go to http://www.avira.com/en/download/product/avira-rescue-system and download the rescue cd from a known clean computer. Goto http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and download the windows binary. Place a flash drive at least 1 GB in size in known clean computer and format it as a fat32, quick format will do. Run unetbootin and click diskimage, and the button with the "..." on it. Locate the avira rescue cd iso and open it. Make sure the drive is set to the flash drive and click ok. Once complete, eject flash drive. Put said flash drive in infect computer and boot from it, scan computer and remove viruses. To be continued. I am a sysadmin by the way, I do this shit for a living.
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December 16, 2013, 02:24:59 AM |
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Continued... After virus scan is complete and viruses are removed it is now time to backup your files. I recommend parted magic, but you can use whatever flavor of linux you want for this. Go here and download parted magic http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/parted_magic.htmlOnce that is downloaded, you can either use the same flash drive or another if you have one. If your flash drive is big enough >4GB I recommend this. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/I have a 32GB Flash drive with several linux distros, sever distros, parted magic, anti virus, Hiren's boot cd for mini xp Either route, if using unetboot follow the previous steps and just select parted magic iso. Once booted into parted magic, plug in an external drive and copy your documents from your main drive to the external. Doing this outside windows prevents trojans from hopping a ride. Once you have everything backed up, format c: and reinstall windows. I recommend upgrading to 7 if possible due to EOL for xp is April 14, 2014. And last but not least, anti virus, get it, keep it up to date. So what did you do to piss this guy off, as the ip you provided came from mother Russia. http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2013/09/vladimir_putin.jpg
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December 16, 2013, 04:34:52 AM |
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Continued... After virus scan is complete and viruses are removed it is now time to backup your files. Doing this outside windows prevents trojans from hopping a ride. Once you have everything backed up, format c: and reinstall windows. I recommend upgrading to 7 if possible due to EOL for xp is April 14, 2014. And last but not least, anti virus, get it, keep it up to date. So what did you do to piss this guy off, as the ip you provided came from mother Russia. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.e-rockford.com%2Fapplesauce%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F09%2Fvladimir_putin.jpg&t=665&c=u8yOVopJI9T4IA) etc Sorry, I pretend to be smart but I can't follow all that shit. In the morning I'll reread it and do it since you sound smart. I don't know if I specifically pissed someone off. I harassed a character fireball on this forum because he runs a crooked exchange, and he came to mind but if you read his posts he is generally a civilized type. He might have done it but I doubt it. More likely. I got into bitcoins earlier this year but only a few weeks ago I started going bananas with weird coins, dozens of them, going to alot of off the wall flybynightish coin sites. It seems likely because of the timing and because that seemed to interest the hacker, that they are related. I just scanned the files I saved with Zone antivirus and it detected Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Injector.jnzz while nothing was detected a few days ago. But it was in WiseCare365.exe so it might be a false positive. I use all of the Wise products and they are a major company. I'll keep scanning regularly. I looked online and saw Kaspersky discovered that trojan, so if it is the culprit there is some balance. Russia has some of the lowest scum as well as some of the most brilliant and decent people.
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December 16, 2013, 04:57:30 AM |
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What source do you want?
We just wanted to know if there is any article on the internet (apart from your posts) that can verify your claim that the Start Button color change is related to PC being hacked.
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December 16, 2013, 02:11:06 PM |
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The problem with a virus is that when you do a scan in windows it can not detect it sometimes if it already manifested into the system files.
You need to do the offline scan, it removes all the variables of the virus fooling the anti virus software.
By saying your not smart enough to understand what I wrote, I am inclined to believe you are trolling instead.
There are people in this form that will help, a lot in the I.T. industry, but once you are identified as a troll all bets are off.
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December 16, 2013, 02:15:56 PM |
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The problem with a virus is that when you do a scan in windows it can not detect it sometimes if it already manifested into the system files.
You need to do the offline scan, it removes all the variables of the virus fooling the anti virus software.
By saying your not smart enough to understand what I wrote, I am inclined to believe you are trolling instead.
There are people in this form that will help, a lot in the I.T. industry, but once you are identified as a troll all bets are off.
Agree, have heard from many IT guys that offline virus scan such as boot scan in Avast detects hidden viruses. Which program do you suggest for it.
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December 16, 2013, 02:20:14 PM |
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I use Avira as a complete offline scanner. Avira rescue cd is on a small linux distro making it completely offline.
Avast has the boot scan, and I haven't heard any complaints.
I have at least 4 different offline scanners on my multiboot drive.
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December 16, 2013, 03:48:16 PM |
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What source do you want?
We just wanted to know if there is any article on the internet (apart from your posts) that can verify your claim that the Start Button color change is related to PC being hacked. Start button has never changed in all the time I used a computer until it was hacked. When the computer was hacked there were several slight changes in the computer. I just googled black start button virus and the results did not match my experience. As far as "verifying my claim". I've given what information I have. If you want information I have then ask. If you want information from google verifying it then look to google.
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December 16, 2013, 03:49:17 PM |
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By saying your not smart enough to understand what I wrote, I am inclined to believe you are trolling instead.
Believe whatever you want. Please move on. This is like kindergarten.
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December 16, 2013, 03:55:24 PM |
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I use Avira as a complete offline scanner. Avira rescue cd is on a small linux distro making it completely offline.
Avast has the boot scan, and I haven't heard any complaints.
I have at least 4 different offline scanners on my multiboot drive.
Any kind of scanning is great if the virus was detected already by the company that scans. The virus or trojan mentioned above was not discovered until Dec 11. https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/44fb2ae318a305108f9aba468e9a58d90aa695998cfeba9e951073edd69717fe/analysis/Even if that one is not actually a virus, still a scanner only finds old news. It's important but it's not everything.
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December 16, 2013, 04:01:13 PM |
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Now your just bashing the ones who are helping and trying to understand what the hell you wrote as far as a "test"
BTW, your "test" makes no sense from an I.T.'s point of view, and is a waste of time.
Telling me to move on, the time I spent typing that to try and help you I should charge you my hourly rate but I'm afraid you couldn't afford it.
Also, saying it wasn't detected till the 11th, so your anti virus wouldn't catch it. I update my offline scanner's daily, it's not hard to click update.
I'm done, go troll somewhere else, maybe the newbie section, they seem gullible enough.
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