Exactly. That's about it. BTW, I've read all the links you PMd me (thank you) on Armstrong Economics (BTW, most of them I've already was aware of; never dived in detail though). I think he has gone a step further than most of us (ok, at least me). The conclusive thought of his, based on "following the pattern of a Stokes diagram on 3D" truly *TRULY* amazes me. I'm sure he has his reasons for not sharing "which is the triple differential equation that rules our world"; but based on his thesis, -more or less- this is about it.


First things first. Entropy is coming from the words "Eν τρoπή" which -in essence- means "during the process". What you're presenting here is a "burning a straw man" paradigm. But you see, on the contrary, Entropy is totally different if you change the initial conditions; as a totally different chaotic model is built. The internal perspective wouldn't fail to find a relative order since you -theoretically- could pick any single moment as a "Zero Point". Thus a new Entropic order within a specifically chosen chaos. This is pretty similar with picking as accurately as possible the initial conditions.

Further reading: Cellular Automata.


First of, it's not bad for someone to admit his myopia. I believe we have a doctor here for these kind of cases, I hope he will give me a nice price fixing my 13/13 vision (joking)...

Second:
I disagree. Order DOESN'T exists ONLY at higher levels of conceptualization. There's a mathematical proof for this. To put it on another perspective; Chaos incorporates Entropy from its very beginning. Otherwise entropy would've been non existent in the first place. That's why we are here and be able to talk about it. BTW: I'm not a personal fan of Anthropocentric Model, but some times like this one, I truly struggle not to.

Third:
I must admit I gained a lot of info from your links (thank you, once more). I must also admit I'm a bit impatient to learn more (ie: how he normalizes the abnormalities, while choosing to leave aside "minor details"). Such a model is a true gem. I have more questions, but I don't think littering a place like this with an off-topic matter like "prediction of entropic morphemes within a chaotic model" is something I like to do... (This is sarcasm)

PS: my other egregious attack on knowledge points to a link that I have not posted anything... Do you want to fix it / correct it?

Is this the one?

Hello and welcome.

Indeed it's often a compulsion of mine to disagree in order to create a fruitful discussion (how on earth we'd have a discussion if we'd agree on everything?). As you may understand the matter we're talking about is far more complex than a "simplified physics" chat. So, yes; I agree with the first paragraph of yours in full detail. My thesis would've been the following though and I will try not to over-complex it:

1. Every data represents a x,y,t point within a diagram. Thus it will perfectly modelize a 3D diagram (2D representation by t=z).
2. After the collection of a specific amount of data (ie: enough to make a "chaos") you can recognize a pattern that represents a stokes diagram of a 3D differential equation.
3. The pattern represents the entropic trajectory of the chaos that tends to form a Lorentz Tensor [or more].
4. The pluralism of Tensors in question depends of the respective Chaos(es) that each and everyone incorporates or vice versa. If you check the diagram from DJ that Armstrong has on his website there's a strong possibility you get EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
5. Reverse engineering the equation. Well. That's easy... as long as you know EXACTLY the deterministic chaos initial conditions (aka:Zero point).

From all the above, step 5 requires A LOT of discussion, mainly on the fact that the "initial conditions" are pretty subjective to significant moves (ie:a whale sale / buy).

Your turn

PS: Klee is a fellow Greek and I like his way of thinking. Besides, I never turn down anything without first giving it a good chance testing it. That's the way I function.

Hahahaha... true!

Hehe, come here so you will drink with me, macsga and your Greek numerate fan club (I partially helped to form) tsipouro, ouzo, raki and fine red wine!