Discussion in need: "Report to moderator"

[Welsh]

Theymos limits what he can do as far as deleting posts and banning spammers.

AFAIK hilariousandco has stated a few times he has very little contact with theymos, and I doubt there's many restrictions in place. After all it's up to the individual moderator on how they deal with something. It's probably a lack of time, and not enough reports. As well, as partly giving up fighting the masses of spammers.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

Theymos limits what he can do as far as deleting posts and banning spammers.

AFAIK hilariousandco has stated a few times he has very little contact with theymos, and I doubt there's many restrictions in place. After all it's up to the individual moderator on how they deal with something. It's probably a lack of time, and not enough reports. As well, as partly giving up fighting the masses of spammers.

You could be right, of course.  Obviously I'm not privy to any communication between Theymos and any of the mods, and I don't even have anything to back up what I wrote--but I swear I recall either Hilariousandco or Lauda stating something to the effect that Theymos doesn't want all these shitposters banned.

I would agree that there's probably some throwing in of the towel on Hilariousandco's part and that's understandable.  It's harder to find good posts on Bitcoin Discussion and Economics than it is to find shitposts.  I'm also aware that as soon as these jokers get a neg, get banned, or get so much as a handful of posts deleted, the noise they make is deafening.  They'll spam your PM box to no end, and they'll make threads complaining about their situation with every excuse and blame-deflection known to man.  It gets very tiring very fast, and I'm sure it's worse when you're a moderator. 

[mdayonliner]

I would like to know if I report 1 post two times or a two people report one same post does it comes as a two different cases or one case with 2 reports?

Still no answer to this question, hoping to get some information on how the report system is working so we can be more efficient.

Not sure how it works however if I would design a system then...
=>if two people reported one post then both will get the credit for reporting. Means one post two reports.
=>If someone report one post twice then one will be counted. I will ensure a front end validation so that one post does not get reported twice by the same person.

[Welsh]

I would like to know if I report 1 post two times or a two people report one same post does it comes as a two different cases or one case with 2 reports?

Still no answer to this question, hoping to get some information on how the report system is working so we can be more efficient.

AFAIK If two/three/ten people report a post then they all get credited for a good report if the post/thread has been deleted. If multiple people have reported a post they come up as separate in the report queue. However, if a moderator deletes the post all the users are credited with a good report. If the post is moved, then not all reports are credited with a good report, and quite often if someone hasn't specified something along the lines of "Wrong section, doesn't belong in <section>" then a moderator may think you are reporting it for being in the current section it's been moved too and thus mark it as a bad report.

I'm unsure what happens if an account is banned, but their posts haven't been removed. However, I would think that after someone has been banned the report would still remain in the queue, and you would be marked on it's accuracy. A moderator probably knows if a user has been banned, and might mark your report good without removing it.

I would agree that there's probably some throwing in of the towel on Hilariousandco's part and that's understandable.  It's harder to find good posts on Bitcoin Discussion and Economics than it is to find shitposts.  I'm also aware that as soon as these jokers get a neg, get banned, or get so much as a handful of posts deleted, the noise they make is deafening.  They'll spam your PM box to no end, and they'll make threads complaining about their situation with every excuse and blame-deflection known to man.  It gets very tiring very fast, and I'm sure it's worse when you're a moderator.  

You bet it. They probably get hundreds of messages per day just because they have the title/rank "Staff/moderator/admin/Lamborghini Member/Ninja. Even, if they wasn't the one that dealt with that users post they'll likely get abuse just because, they are the first one they saw that was a member of staff.

[mdayonliner]

If the post is moved, then not all reports are credited with a good report, and quite often if someone hasn't specified something along the lines of "Wrong section, doesn't belong in <section>" then a moderator may think you are reporting it for being in the current section it's been moved too and thus mark it as a bad report.

So in other words, reporting without a valid comment (on the report section) will always ends up as a bad report?

AFAIK hilariousandco has stated a few times he has very little contact with theymos,...

I can confirm that, I have seen it few days ago in a post he/she mentioned.

[Mr. Big]

Hilariousandco has a point... Just report one post and state everything, ex. "there are similar post from this forumite on different threads/boards" that way, we can check the profile of the said person and do what's necessary...

I didn't realize mods actually did that (checking a member's post history), Snip

I always do that, when I suspect that a forumite posts garbage (reported), I always check their profile, and post history, and delete the posts that are almost the same as what was reported...

As far as I know Hilariousandco checks everything, he can't just trace 200+ accounts without investigating at their posts thoroughly... (He is like Robert Langdon)... 

If the post is moved, then not all reports are credited with a good report, and quite often if someone hasn't specified something along the lines of "Wrong section, doesn't belong in <section>" then a moderator may think you are reporting it for being in the current section it's been moved too and thus mark it as a bad report.

So in other words, reporting without a valid comment (on the report section) will always ends up as a bad report?

It's not like that... We always look at the reported posts even if it is a blank report... If it's an obvious spam, then it should be deleted... But if you would report it the way those ICO shills are doing (Reporting posts that they can't answer themselves, or reporting posts that would
 open their can of worms), then it is either ignored or labeled as bad, it is almost like reporting without any basis...

MODS don't just label a report "bad" without looking into it...

[Flying Hellfish]

Hilariousandco has a point... Just report one post and state everything, ex. "there are similar post from this forumite on different threads/boards" that way, we can check the profile of the said person and do what's necessary...

Moderators sometimes give conflicting answers. It's either the above, or sometimes they say it's easier to handle them if they're all reported.

I wouldn't dare speak for anyone else but because different mod levels have different abilities I think this may lead to some conflicting answers?  

I don't get a lot of reports in the P&S section but if its a general "low/no value" type report than I personally want to see each report so I can run down the queue handling reports quickly and efficiently.  But the little P&S section is nothing compared to all the boards with no local mods in which the globals end up taking care of so perhaps they don't want a million individual posts reported?

I can't "handle" request for ban type reports, so they get "left" by me and in the queue for a global mod to handle.  I can see why they wouldn't want multiple posts reported about the same "user" issue and I'm pretty sure they do check profiles to get info on the user.

It's definitely kind of annoying to have to think if a board has a local mod or global mod and is it a shit post or ban type report but at the end of the day I personally like seeing any reports LOL!!

I've never looked at a report (from a legit user) and said to myself "I wish they hadn't reported this" or "this user is an idiot for reporting this".  Even if I disagree and mark it as a bad report, I still appreciate the report none the less.

Well hope this helps with a little perspective from your friendly neighborhood P&S mod!

[mdayonliner]

As far as I know Hilariousandco checks everything, he can't just trace 200+ accounts without investigating at their posts thoroughly... (He is like Robert Langdon)... 

When I think about a mod the first one comes in my mind is Hilariousandco because I see him very active in the forum. I like it calling him  Robert Langdon 

So in other words, reporting without a valid comment (on the report section) will always ends up as a bad report?

It's not like that... We always look at the reported posts even if it is a blank report... If it's an obvious spam, then it should be deleted... But if you would report it the way those ICO shills are doing (Reporting posts that they can't answer themselves, or reporting posts that would
 open their can of worms), then it is either ignored or labeled as bad, it is almost like reporting without any basis...

MODS don't just label a report "bad" without looking into it...

Ok, this makes good sense.

I believe Hilariousandco and you are global mod. You guys have more control than local mod like Flying Hellfish

It's pretty clear to me after reading all these feedbacks is, different mods has different views judging a report and they response different as well.