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August 17, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
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I noticed later that "US Government" is on the list for McCain as well. I guess it's more likely that it's talking about employees of the organizations, but if so how would that information be collected exactly?

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August 17, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
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I noticed later that "US Government" is on the list for McCain as well. I guess it's more likely that it's talking about employees of the organizations, but if so how would that information be collected exactly?

And why would it even be considered relevant?

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Thank you for making this clear. Now it all makes sense. It's only the employees who are anti-war. Not the actual companies.
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August 20, 2011, 11:57:51 AM
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This only creates a monopoly on people who can get away with secretly funneling more money. It would be a disaster if they set a limit.
Not really. In France, just for example, parties are not allowed to accept donations from companies at all. Donations from single persons are limited to 7,500€/year max. Bank accounts of the parties are public, the salaries for the members of parliament are public too. Election campaigns must be financed from the money within the public accounts. Parties can "claim back" the campaign money from the tax money, if their party gets at least 0.5% of the votes. And since the accounts are public, they only get back what they really paid for the campaign. So this way an election campaign is a bit more about getting votes from people and not just about collecting big big money from companies to do them "a favor" afterwards.


They will go underground .... that is all that will happen ... This war can't be won through Law , only through education , as long as people care if they saw a man on TV and don't pay attention to the politicians words and actions and never analyze them then it doesn't matter what laws you pass , you might make it a little harder for them to get funded but they will , and the payback would need to be much bigger.
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August 20, 2011, 12:16:53 PM
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No seriously the companies listed above (under Ron - Lock Mart etc.) make the most money not in war but in peace.  I worked in that industry so have seen the effects first hand.  Basically what happens is that in war time the gov slows or stops contracts to make new things or modernize things, instead their budgets get spent maintaining, and replacing equipment, troops, munitions, etc.  So yes those companies would be much better off out of the war.  Now you would be unlikely to hear them make any official statements otherwise... after all the boss of their customers is the president :-D

Curiously enough there was a proposed law in France to tax gold and the the NO won. Wonder why the politicians voted no on that one...  Grin Corruption always find ways around the law.

Also, by giving government money by numbers of votes you are punishing small parties and benefiting big parties. They get more votes so they get more money, because they have more money they get more votes, because they get more votes they get more money, ... Its a vicious circle that stops any kind of political diversity.
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August 21, 2011, 12:11:52 AM
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I guess we'll just ignore the fact that the Ron Paul list is a who's who of defense contractors.  Roll Eyes

Two sides, same coin.
He wants all of our troops home. He's actually skeptical of 9/11.


Which is obviously why every defense contractor in the country is backing him... because they want to destroy themselves.
Maybe his actions will lead to more of a focus on defense at home and more sales due to said change? He has never lied or left his principles. He will not advocate war.

Perhaps it would be a better rebuttal to mentioning that it's soldiers, not defense contractors, doing the donating.
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