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January 04, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
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I want China in because it will fight U.S, tas long as the ultimate conspiracy that all the world's powers will unite against Bitcoin just because it's Bitcoin doesn't become a reality, the more rivalries we have in here, the better it's for the whole ecosystem.

It's called decentralization, and Bitcoin allows you to benefit from it regardless of your morality, belief, and entrenched interest, if you choose to play by its rules.

https://tlsnotary.org/ Fraud proofing decentralized fiat-Bitcoin trading.
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January 04, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
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I want China in because it will fight U.S, tas long as the ultimate conspiracy that all the world's powers will unite against Bitcoin just because it's Bitcoin doesn't become a reality, the more rivalries we have in here, the better it's for the whole ecosystem.

It's called decentralization, and Bitcoin allows you to benefit from it regardless of your morality, belief, and entrenched interest, if you choose to play by its rules.

Exactly.  The more players and competition the better.  A benefit of having China's (and India's) stance on bitcoin is that it shows the world China's true colors and those that follow them will show their's too.
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January 13, 2014, 09:58:55 AM
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May I ask you where you live?
Because I lived in a communist country for enough time to realize USA is not going communist.
1. I live in the USA
2. Living in a communist country doesn't make you qualified to comment on whether a country is transitioning towards communism. It only qualifies you to explain what it is like to live under a communist regime after the transition is over. Unless you wish to revise it into you having lived THROUGH such a transition.
3. The hell it isn't

Do yourself a favor.
Fly to one of the ex soviet countries , but not Russia. Try to live for two months in Belarus or Turkmenistan.

It's better to lose a month of your life understanding something rather than living a whole life in a lie.

You people in the USA have no fucking idea how communism was and is.
I lived enough in both communism and capitalist regimes to tell USA has nothing to do with communism and is by no means getting closer to it.

As a Canadian who knows Americans, has had family live in and go to school in Russia under 'communism' (really authoritarian central planning where the coordinator class rules all) I can say that neither Americans nor ex-soviet block citizens know a damn thing about communism... But especially not Americans. Calling Obama socialist is SOOO rediculous. I do agree however that coordinator class authoritarianism is a basic condition that both system had alot of.  In the US there are more advanced methods of control that allow for a lot more feeling of freedom.

There is one thing I'd like to point out...

Obama has admitted to being Socialist in college. His mother was not just a socialist but a very politically motivated and outspoken socialist. His father was socialist, his mentor was socialist...
He has direct and immediate ties to the strongest Socialist and Communist groups active in the United States...
We aren't just calling him names. This is one of those "it is what is is" situations. The writing is on the wall...

Check the facts and verify before defending him blindly.

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January 14, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
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Bitcoin: China’s Ban Validates Cryptocurrency

In November 2013 China banned its banks from handling Bitcoin (BTC) transactions, at the same time it banned financial institutions like 3rd party payment providers in December.

The Chinese government also announced that it does not recognize BTC as a currency, but does recognize it as a virtual commodity.

As a result, Chinese citizens can still trade BTC at their own risk, but cannot use BTC as an alternative to the RMB Yuan to buy goods and services.

The BigQ: What was the motivation behind this action?

The Big A: to understand why China’s government is not keen on Bitcoin, one must to understand 2 Key facts about China: it has a goal to dominate the world economy and centralization is the organizing principle of the Chinese Communist party.

A tool used in China’s efforts to dominate the world economy is controlling the currency. It is not a secret that instead of letting their currency freely trade in a competitive market, China artificially keep the Renminbi (RMB Yuan) weak to make their exports cheaper and  more competitive.

The Chinese government had to clamp down on BTC before it gained enough momentum to threaten the government’s monopoly on its currency.

If BTC became a medium of exchange for economic transactions, the Renminbi would lose market share, and China would lose the power and influence to manipulate their people and their destiny.

Centralization is the nature of a Communist government like China.

For those in power, there is no current need to decentralize something as important as the control over currency and cede it to BTC, which they or any other government can control.

The sudden increase in interest by Chinese citizens in BTC, BTC software downloads in China outnumbered the US by 2X, and how retailers and restaurants quickly learned how to accept BTC transactions alarmed Beijing.

Because BTCs trade globally, and there can be  anonymity with owner names, it could be a method for Chinese citizens to transfer their wealth out of China without the usual foreign exchange controls.

Note: China still allows BTC to be traded like a commodity such as Gold, this allows China to study BTC and decide on its own schedule whether to allow its use or develop its own digital version if it is in their best interest.

Recall that when banks in China were banne from accepting BTC, the price dove from 1,200 to 600 before stabilizing at 800. Then other financial institutions questioned it valitity BTC traded as low as 422 before bouncing back to around 800-900 again its last trade Friday was 872 at Mt. Gox..

Taking a look beyond the volatility and the early setbacks in this long-term affair, the larger and  important issues is being missed by most analysts.

That is, China is afraid of BTC because of its real potential to disrupt its plan for economic supremacy.

Bitcoin by its very nature is decentralized, is subject to the free market and the trust between people in a transaction, not by the “fiat” of a government to mandate its own will and purposes against the wealth of its citizens and trading partners

China’s ban validates cryptocurrencies and their transformational possibilities.

Stay tuned, this is an ongoing story…

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Paul Ebleing

http://www.livetradingnews.com/bitcoin-chinas-ban-validates-cryptocurrency-26467.htm#.UtQrpfvuYgU

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