We should be happy tyranny is allergic to bitcoin, not sad.

[stompix]

Anarchism

Every anarchy in existence in history and in the world today result in a bunch of warlords fighting for domination, those petty warlords are either plain dictators, communist dictators, or theocrat dictators.

Fairy tales. Organized violence (patriarchy, warlords, cheftains and chefdoms) is unknown in the whole pre-neolitic history.
Anarchy within the self-sufficient communities was the dominant organization before the homines sapientes were transformed into collectivistic slaves (theocracy/communism/feudalism/capitalism etc.).

Taking into account how much of the pre-neolitic history is still unknown , I would rather not base my arguments on those traces of fragments of evidence.

[Zarathustra]

Anarchism

Every anarchy in existence in history and in the world today result in a bunch of warlords fighting for domination, those petty warlords are either plain dictators, communist dictators, or theocrat dictators.

Fairy tales. Organized violence (patriarchy, warlords, cheftains and chefdoms) is unknown in the whole pre-neolitic history.
Anarchy within the self-sufficient communities was the dominant organization before the homines sapientes were transformed into collectivistic slaves (theocracy/communism/feudalism/capitalism etc.).

Taking into account how much of the pre-neolitic history is still unknown , I would rather not base my arguments on those traces of fragments of evidence.

That you don't know doesn't mean it is unknown.

[stompix]

Anarchism

Every anarchy in existence in history and in the world today result in a bunch of warlords fighting for domination, those petty warlords are either plain dictators, communist dictators, or theocrat dictators.

Fairy tales. Organized violence (patriarchy, warlords, cheftains and chefdoms) is unknown in the whole pre-neolitic history.
Anarchy within the self-sufficient communities was the dominant organization before the homines sapientes were transformed into collectivistic slaves (theocracy/communism/feudalism/capitalism etc.).

Taking into account how much of the pre-neolitic history is still unknown , I would rather not base my arguments on those traces of fragments of evidence.

That you don't know doesn't mean it is unknown.

That reminds me of :
You know everything , do you?
I don't know everything, I just know what I know.

[Zarathustra]

Anarchism

Every anarchy in existence in history and in the world today result in a bunch of warlords fighting for domination, those petty warlords are either plain dictators, communist dictators, or theocrat dictators.

Fairy tales. Organized violence (patriarchy, warlords, cheftains and chefdoms) is unknown in the whole pre-neolitic history.
Anarchy within the self-sufficient communities was the dominant organization before the homines sapientes were transformed into collectivistic slaves (theocracy/communism/feudalism/capitalism etc.).

Taking into account how much of the pre-neolitic history is still unknown , I would rather not base my arguments on those traces of fragments of evidence.

That you don't know doesn't mean it is unknown.

That reminds me of :
You know everything , do you?
I don't know everything, I just know what I know.

I know what I'm talking about. For example, post-paleolitic art is about warfare, hierarchy and dominance. Paleolitic art shows zero such things.

[taltamir]

May I ask you where you live?
Because I lived in a communist country for enough time to realize USA is not going communist.

1. I live in the USA
2. Living in a communist country doesn't make you qualified to comment on whether a country is transitioning towards communism. It only qualifies you to explain what it is like to live under a communist regime after the transition is over. Unless you wish to revise it into you having lived THROUGH such a transition.
3. The hell it isn't

[stompix]

May I ask you where you live?
Because I lived in a communist country for enough time to realize USA is not going communist.

1. I live in the USA
2. Living in a communist country doesn't make you qualified to comment on whether a country is transitioning towards communism. It only qualifies you to explain what it is like to live under a communist regime after the transition is over. Unless you wish to revise it into you having lived THROUGH such a transition.
3. The hell it isn't

Do yourself a favor.
Fly to one of the ex soviet countries , but not Russia. Try to live for two months in Belarus or Turkmenistan.

It's better to lose a month of your life understanding something rather than living a whole life in a lie.

You people in the USA have no fucking idea how communism was and is.
I lived enough in both communism and capitalist regimes to tell USA has nothing to do with communism and is by no means getting closer to it.

[QuestionAuthority]

May I ask you where you live?
Because I lived in a communist country for enough time to realize USA is not going communist.

1. I live in the USA
2. Living in a communist country doesn't make you qualified to comment on whether a country is transitioning towards communism. It only qualifies you to explain what it is like to live under a communist regime after the transition is over. Unless you wish to revise it into you having lived THROUGH such a transition.
3. The hell it isn't

Do yourself a favor.
Fly to one of the ex soviet countries , but not Russia. Try to live for two months in Belarus or Turkmenistan.

It's better to lose a month of your life understanding something rather than living a whole life in a lie.

You people in the USA have no fucking idea how communism was and is.
I lived enough in both communism and capitalist regimes to tell USA has nothing to do with communism and is by no means getting closer to it.

I think people commonly confuse communism with fascism which has always been a component of the American makeup even right down to the age and gender roles.

[JekyllIsland]

Trolls ranting at one another

First i want to start off by saying this is obviously going nowhere. I can't forsee us drinking tea in the future, and that kind of upsets me.


1. I'd say it's more socialism than communism, although the end goal of communism and socialism are almost 100% the same. Socialism is just more subtle and appealing to people.

2. They try to regulate encryption technologies using licensing requirements etc, has that been successful? They try to regulate drugs, do you think that has been successful? They try to regulate torrenting, how has that been going? Do you have an argument to explain how bitcoin, or more specifically cryptocurrency in general will be different? I don't think shutting down all the exchanges will end bitcoin, local bitcoins and other similar methods will still exist. Although the liklihood of that happening is incredibly small at this point anyway.

3.You need a better argument than using just Bitcoin. You're acting like it's the only cryptocurrency that has a future.Crypto anarchy can exist alongside governments. Of course there will still be coercive governments that exist and enforce corrupt laws. People will have to decide which system resonates with them. Sadly the truth is many people today will choose perceived safety and security and follow their elected leaders.

[genjix]

who gives a f what its called. we all know its happening.

[QuestionAuthority]

who gives a f what its called. we all know its happening.

bingo!

[stompix]

who gives a f what its called. we all know its happening.

Yeah , it doesn't matter if you're shot or stabbed.
But then again , one is more painful than the other .

[taltamir]

I think people commonly confuse communism with fascism which has always been a component of the American makeup even right down to the age and gender roles.

That is like saying people commonly confuse AIDS for HIV. They two are different, yes, but if a country is infected with communism then it either gets cured or it gets fascism. Communism cannot survive in a non fascist nation & it is one of the strongest causes of fascism

1. I'd say it's more socialism than communism, although the end goal of communism and socialism are almost 100% the same. Socialism is just more subtle and appealing to people.

Funny thing, socialism is a term invented by carl marx, he defined it as "a society in transition towards communism" and characterized by still using money (in his dreams, he imagined that a pure communist society will not have money).

And yea, people use socialism as a different name to sell communism because the word communism leaves a bad taste what with stalin, mao, etc, etc.

[taltamir]

Yeah , it doesn't matter if you're shot or stabbed.
But then again , one is more painful than the other .

Neither is inherently more harmful or painful. It depends on the specific application (where the bullet/knife enters, size of bullet/knife, force used, etc)

2. They try to regulate encryption technologies using licensing requirements etc, has that been successful? They try to regulate drugs, do you think that has been successful? They try to regulate torrenting, how has that been going? Do you have an argument to explain how bitcoin, or more specifically cryptocurrency in general will be different? I don't think shutting down all the exchanges will end bitcoin, local bitcoins and other similar methods will still exist. Although the liklihood of that happening is incredibly small at this point anyway.

Unlike bitcoin, those are all purely digital things. You don't go to the store to exchange milk for a pirated DVD.
That being said, bitcoin CAN be used in purely digital format. Buying anything digital online.

3.You need a better argument than using just Bitcoin. You're acting like it's the only cryptocurrency that has a future.Crypto anarchy can exist alongside governments. Of course there will still be coercive governments that exist and enforce corrupt laws. People will have to decide which system resonates with them. Sadly the truth is many people today will choose perceived safety and security and follow their elected leaders.

who is you?

[QuestionAuthority]

I think people commonly confuse communism with fascism which has always been a component of the American makeup even right down to the age and gender roles.

That is like saying people commonly confuse AIDS for HIV. They two are different, yes, but if a country is infected with communism then it either gets cured or it gets fascism. Communism cannot survive in a non fascist nation & it is one of the strongest causes of fascism

As the historian Victor Davis Hanson states, "Fascism thrives best in a once proud, recently humbled, but now ascendant, people who are ripe to be deluded into thinking contemporary setbacks were caused by others and are soon to be erased through ever more zealotry."

What you are attempting to describe is a movement where an omnipotent government asserts control over every nook and cranny of political, economic, social, and private life. Bitcoin can thrive in this political environment and is, in fact, more necessary there for the citizenry to have monetary freedom.

Indeed, fascism is closely related to communism in both theory and practice. The chief difference between the two is that fascism is rooted in nationalism and seeks to create a socialist utopia within the confines of a particular country's borders. Communism seeks to transcend national boundaries and promote a worldwide proletariat revolution, where the foot soldiers are bound together not by a common nationality but by their membership in the same economic class.

[JekyllIsland]

Communism seeks to transcend national boundaries and promote a worldwide proletariat revolution, where the foot soldiers are bound together not by a common nationality but by their membership in the same economic class.

United nations?   

2. They try to regulate encryption technologies using licensing requirements etc, has that been successful? They try to regulate drugs, do you think that has been successful? They try to regulate torrenting, how has that been going? Do you have an argument to explain how bitcoin, or more specifically cryptocurrency in general will be different? I don't think shutting down all the exchanges will end bitcoin, local bitcoins and other similar methods will still exist. Although the liklihood of that happening is incredibly small at this point anyway.

Unlike bitcoin, those are all purely digital things. You don't go to the store to exchange milk for a pirated DVD.
That being said, bitcoin CAN be used in purely digital format. Buying anything digital online.

Gold, drugs, guns, prostitution, alcohol, (i left out a lot use your imagination.) are all digital? Goes to show you aren't reading anything therefore not considering it. You're trying to be right and just jumping to conclusions. Sad thing is I’m mostly agreeing with you. Take a step back and relax, then you can think.

[taltamir]

United nations?   

AKA the great fascist alliance

[nodroids]

People are buying the BS hook line and sinker, that Bitcoin is used for crime when it is used probably %.01 as much as the USD is just by the CIA, NSA and banking cartels for crime.

When the mass media says Bitcoin is a criminal's currency dream, they mean that the powers that be don't have a monopoly on control of the crime.

And yes, it is a badge of honor that the Indian central bank is arresting people for opening online exchanges. If they're cracking down on bitcoin trade, it is proof that they know they can't allow alternatives to their IMF fiat regime, or fiat will come to an end. So when they crack down on Bitcoin then we know we really need bitcoin and we just go back to trading it like we always did before all this infrastructure from venture capitalists came a long.

[bryant.coleman]

I think people commonly confuse communism with fascism which has always been a component of the American makeup even right down to the age and gender roles.

Don't know much about the American mindset. But, you can go to North Korea and watch communism in action. In DPRK, the communism is very much inter-twinned with fascism.

[nodroids]

May I ask you where you live?
Because I lived in a communist country for enough time to realize USA is not going communist.

1. I live in the USA
2. Living in a communist country doesn't make you qualified to comment on whether a country is transitioning towards communism. It only qualifies you to explain what it is like to live under a communist regime after the transition is over. Unless you wish to revise it into you having lived THROUGH such a transition.
3. The hell it isn't

Do yourself a favor.
Fly to one of the ex soviet countries , but not Russia. Try to live for two months in Belarus or Turkmenistan.

It's better to lose a month of your life understanding something rather than living a whole life in a lie.

You people in the USA have no fucking idea how communism was and is.
I lived enough in both communism and capitalist regimes to tell USA has nothing to do with communism and is by no means getting closer to it.

As a Canadian who knows Americans, has had family live in and go to school in Russia under 'communism' (really authoritarian central planning where the coordinator class rules all) I can say that neither Americans nor ex-soviet block citizens know a damn thing about communism... But especially not Americans. Calling Obama socialist is SOOO rediculous. I do agree however that coordinator class authoritarianism is a basic condition that both system had alot of.  In the US there are more advanced methods of control that allow for a lot more feeling of freedom.

[dbkeys]

I think people commonly confuse communism with fascism which has always been a component of the American makeup even right down to the age and gender roles.

That is like saying people commonly confuse AIDS for HIV. They two are different, yes, but if a country is infected with communism then it either gets cured or it gets fascism. Communism cannot survive in a non fascist nation & it is one of the strongest causes of fascism

As the historian Victor Davis Hanson states, "Fascism thrives best in a once proud, recently humbled, but now ascendant, people who are ripe to be deluded into thinking contemporary setbacks were caused by others and are soon to be erased through ever more zealotry."

What you are attempting to describe is a movement where an omnipotent government asserts control over every nook and cranny of political, economic, social, and private life. Bitcoin can thrive in this political environment and is, in fact, more necessary there for the citizenry to have monetary freedom.

Indeed, fascism is closely related to communism in both theory and practice. The chief difference between the two is that fascism is rooted in nationalism and seeks to create a socialist utopia within the confines of a particular country's borders. Communism seeks to transcend national boundaries and promote a worldwide proletariat revolution, where the foot soldiers are bound together not by a common nationality but by their membership in the same economic class.

The prime example of fascism, Hitler and Nazi Germany, proved to be territorial gluttons - the annexation of the Sudetenland, the absorption of Austria, and then the invasion of Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, etc., disproves that fascists "stay within the confines of a country's borders" .  Maybe not all, but Nazi Germany, the prototype fascist example from history had ravenous territorial ambitions. They most certainly did not stay within the confines of their borders.