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August 17, 2011, 06:00:03 PM
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So in the name of just using every possible resource for mining I thought...why not your Android phone?

Obviously, it should only run while sitting on the charger and at a nearly full charge because it would just absolutely suck your battery dry in less than 2 hours, but if you're at home, your phone is living on the charger anyways, just sitting idle!

The other caveat is that it is going to have horrible performance.  My 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Quad CPU only performs about 1.6 MH/s per core.  So my Droid's 550 Mhz CPU will probably only perform about 0.35 MH/s at a MAXIMUM.

Is it worth it at all?  Would anybody be interested in this?

EDIT: I didn't mention it specifically, but I'm a newbie Java/Android developer, but have some experience with C/C++ so I'm learning the language quickly.  If there's sufficient interest (And perhaps someone paying me), I will develop this.
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August 17, 2011, 06:05:51 PM
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Nope, I won't do this.
It'll probably might break up my phone way before it mined a share Shocked
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August 17, 2011, 06:50:10 PM
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Check out 'ARM' section of this site, Motorola devices for example are running on ARM processors (as are many others)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

there is limited stats there but Nokia N900  running on ARM for example is getting less than 0.36 Mhash per Joule, which is not at all efficient, let alone cost effective (yes, I know, it's not android).



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August 18, 2011, 07:32:22 AM
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I don't think it would be worth it because even if your phone is on the charger it might drastically affect it's battery life.

(Not sure - Does the battery form part of the circuit at all when the charger is plugged in, or is it completely bypassed?)

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August 19, 2011, 05:14:14 AM
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I don't think it would be worth it because even if your phone is on the charger it might drastically affect it's battery life.

(Not sure - Does the battery form part of the circuit at all when the charger is plugged in, or is it completely bypassed?)


Once the battery is charged, it just stops charging and any power usage will come from the battery.  It'll recharge again after it drops a bit.  Somewhere a graph where someone showed the power usage of his charger over time.  Once it was fully charged, the charger stopped using power for like 30 minutes, then came back on for a minute to top the battery off again.
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August 19, 2011, 05:52:21 AM
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Yeah so that would seriously cut short your battery life.

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October 29, 2011, 09:08:36 PM
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Check out 'ARM' section of this site, Motorola devices for example are running on ARM processors (as are many others)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

there is limited stats there but Nokia N900  running on ARM for example is getting less than 0.36 Mhash per Joule, which is not at all efficient, let alone cost effective (yes, I know, it's not android).


Speaking of mining on an N900,can somebody please provide me a download link to the mining program for the N900 phone along with setup instructions please as I really want to gte it started asap now for my experiments.Even if it's CPU only,I want the link to it.While I'm on the subject can someone please build a GPU miner on that phone and also an overclocking tool for N900s GPU.Thinsg for people to know:I know that overclocking is risky to the N900,I know that mining is probably worthless on N900.All I care about is that I can carry out my experiments involving multiple devices form multiple platforms in addition to my 2 computers.

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October 30, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
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I think you'd be better off pawning your phone and buying another video card.

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October 30, 2011, 08:08:00 PM
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Check out 'ARM' section of this site, Motorola devices for example are running on ARM processors (as are many others)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

there is limited stats there but Nokia N900  running on ARM for example is getting less than 0.36 Mhash per Joule, which is not at all efficient, let alone cost effective (yes, I know, it's not android).


Speaking of mining on an N900,can somebody please provide me a download link to the mining program for the N900 phone along with setup instructions please as I really want to gte it started asap now for my experiments.Even if it's CPU only,I want the link to it.While I'm on the subject can someone please build a GPU miner on that phone and also an overclocking tool for N900s GPU.Thinsg for people to know:I know that overclocking is risky to the N900,I know that mining is probably worthless on N900.All I care about is that I can carry out my experiments involving multiple devices form multiple platforms in addition to my 2 computers.

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Hope you are joking right ? I don't even dare OC my laptop and you want to OC a phone GPU lol good luck !
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October 30, 2011, 11:26:51 PM
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Yeah I don't think such a miner would work on a telephone  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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October 31, 2011, 04:43:37 AM
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Check out 'ARM' section of this site, Motorola devices for example are running on ARM processors (as are many others)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

there is limited stats there but Nokia N900  running on ARM for example is getting less than 0.36 Mhash per Joule, which is not at all efficient, let alone cost effective (yes, I know, it's not android).


Speaking of mining on an N900,can somebody please provide me a download link to the mining program for the N900 phone along with setup instructions please as I really want to gte it started asap now for my experiments.Even if it's CPU only,I want the link to it.While I'm on the subject can someone please build a GPU miner on that phone and also an overclocking tool for N900s GPU.Thinsg for people to know:I know that overclocking is risky to the N900,I know that mining is probably worthless on N900.All I care about is that I can carry out my experiments involving multiple devices form multiple platforms in addition to my 2 computers.

Thank you

Hope you are joking right ? I don't even dare OC my laptop and you want to OC a phone GPU lol good luck !

I've OCed every android phone I've owned for development and quadrant testing, never any problems. Battery life is key in development of new phones, so they are essentially extremely underclocked from the factory. Bumping .2-.4 GHz typically will not damage a phone, but they do get hot with a battery sitting on them.

Edit: I'm not saying you should mine on your phone though. You will seriously depreciate the life expectancy of your device! You may get 2 months out of your phone. It's designed to be small and portable, not for constant use and heat dissipation.

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January 27, 2012, 05:26:07 PM
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Actually develoment of native and optimised ARM miner is a must for various reasons.

1) Raspberry PI at $25
2) Rhombus-Tech will be offering a AllWinner A10 board for $15 (easily twice as fast as Raspberry)
3) Mali is already supporting Directx11, OpenCL and DC on its new gpus for mobile cpus.

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January 28, 2012, 03:34:53 AM
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Actually develoment of native and optimised ARM miner is a must for various reasons.

1) Raspberry PI at $25
2) Rhombus-Tech will be offering a AllWinner A10 board for $15 (easily twice as fast as Raspberry)
3) Mali is already supporting Directx11, OpenCL and DC on its new gpus for mobile cpus.

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January 28, 2012, 09:39:35 AM
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Has anyone tried this with some stats to tell us? I think it might take some years to get anything from it.

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January 28, 2012, 05:10:50 PM
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the test with arm hardware was based on a cross-compiles cpuminer, is not optimised for arm.

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January 28, 2012, 05:29:31 PM
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dude, its not even worth it. come on how crazy can you get?
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February 22, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
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While it might not be worth doing it on the CPU of the phone I would be really curious of benchmarks on a typical Android GPU.
They are powerful for being integrated in a phone, and their power usage is low probably.

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February 23, 2012, 02:33:01 PM
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While it might not be worth doing it on the CPU of the phone I would be really curious of benchmarks on a typical Android GPU.
They are powerful for being integrated in a phone, and their power usage is low probably.

I'm close to buying an Rpi (they are about 45mins away from me) and I have a ZTE blade running cyanogenmod. I'm thinking of doing this, particularly as there has been an opensource gpu driver release for certain Mali cores, and so there could be opencl capable systems.

Just need to find out further what the blade and rpi gpu cores are based on. I think the blade is an adreno200. Also it might be worth it just to get a miner running, and see what a bramble can do (multiple rpi's in a cluster).

If I could get 10btc together I would definitely do it. Anybody interested?


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February 23, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
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Dont think this would be good, maybe for litecoin.

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February 23, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
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While it might not be worth doing it on the CPU of the phone I would be really curious of benchmarks on a typical Android GPU.
They are powerful for being integrated in a phone[/b], and their power usage is low probably.

Added some emphasis for you.

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