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May 22, 2018, 08:31:47 AM
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Thank you very much, zentdex, for doing great analysis.
In addition, you likely spent lots of time to retrieve data for your analysis based on raw data Theymos gave.
Hope that you will release more meaningful threads in the future for bitcointalk forum's community.

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May 22, 2018, 08:37:11 AM
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For statistical presentation,
With quantitative variables, in the case of your topic, merit points; those sort of variables should be presented in the following style:
Average +/- standard deviation; and Median (Interquartile range).
Average and Median are not enough, and might lead to misinterpretation on real distribution of merit variable.
Median and Interquartile range are essential statistics for non-normal distribution variables.
You choose right statistics to desribe your variables, zentdex.

For your interest, I also give you link to helpful statistical guides from laerd:
Measures of central tendency

Mean, median, and mode should be used correctly with related supplemental statistics for central descriptions.

Hope it helps, zentdex.

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May 22, 2018, 11:35:59 AM
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@zentdex Thank you for the analysis, I enjoyed reading through your post although I was finding it difficult to understand the Graph but I enjoyed every minutes I spend reading. Keep it up. Thanks for your contribution to the community

Maybe because merit givers cannot find any posts that are worthy of their merits..  Grin Grin Is it true?  Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
I agree to disagree with you  Grin Nope, it's not just because they can't find any posts worthy of their merits but also because, most times those useful post are on threads they're not interested in. Therefore they won't be merited for their contribution to the community.
Examples: while surfing through threads for useful information, i saw a warning about a new type of scam. I took precautions and it helped. (It was when the Giveaway scams on popular Twitter accounts were still new.) But to my surprise no merit was given to the posted and the post was 23days old with 60+ comments.

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May 22, 2018, 03:34:27 PM
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Another fruitful analysis. Thank you for providing us those details, there are user looking for more clarification and current state of the merit system. I never thought that merit giving is continuously decreasing. One thing that I notice, higher rank mostly prefer to give merit to those who are in the lower rank. BTW. I am currently in a Member rank providing help to lower and higher ranks by rewarding them a merit once they have answered a Bitcoin related Cryptographic Puzzle. By this it also add another knowledge not just to the winner but to the thread readers. I will be very glad if you sponsor even one puzzle. You can visit the thread here at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103583.msg32048143#msg32048143
Thank you.
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May 23, 2018, 09:10:21 AM
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Hello zentdex,
Thank you very much for great topic!

By the way, I have small suggestion for you, which I think you should apply for your next topics/ threads.
In some parts of the topic, you attached oversize images (I quoted one of them as an example), which may lead to annoying feelings from readers.
In addition, resizing them to be a little bit smaller might be a better option.

You can use softwares to reduce image sizes, but in the forum, you can do it directly.
It's very simple, and you can visit my topic to read more about those tips.

Guideline on posting images (with size adjustments), hyperlinks

I adjust a bit to show your resized image, like this one:
Code:
[center][img width=400]https://i.imgur.com/ldOaFiq.png[/img][/center]
Personally, this one is large enough for readers.

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May 24, 2018, 07:44:03 AM
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If gaining of merit gone well to me in the beginning now everything seems frozen. Probably the thing is that sMerit holders spent all of their sMerits in the most beginning. I was reading that some guy sent 70 sMerits to one post just to check out how it works on the first day of new Mery system, or maybe it simply was his second profile here Grin How to earn Merit is the point that became very actual nowadays. As I see only threads that suggest to make the system harder get the most number of merits, such us https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3122415.msg32278787#msg32278787 and all those crying for merit posts stay death.
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May 24, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
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The merit system was meant to focus on the quality of posts, or the number of merits!
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May 24, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
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I would love to know How did you get the Data?

Did you use web scraping tools like (BeautifulSoup) in Python or is it available in the Forum. I am new here, I am AI Engineer, I can get some awesome insights on the forum with this kind of data. Please guide me in the right direction.

Really good work with Data Visualization. What did you use? (Python + Plotly or Matplitlib or R or something totally new.)

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May 24, 2018, 11:47:35 AM
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 I am new here, I am AI Engineer, I can get some awesome insights on the forum with this kind of data.

I gave you a couple of merits to encourage you to experiment with this. It would be interesting to see a new members perspective.

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May 24, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
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 I am new here, I am AI Engineer, I can get some awesome insights on the forum with this kind of data.

I gave you a couple of merits to encourage you to experiment with this. It would be interesting to see a new members perspective.


Can I say thanks? Or is it illegal?   Huh

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May 25, 2018, 03:33:35 AM
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Can I say thanks? Or is it illegal?   Huh
Of course, it is legally to publish non-constructive threads, but it is always good to say thank you to someone who help you to show your politeness.
Congratulations, PirateHunter. By now, you had 2 more merits and 1 more postcount.  Roll Eyes

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May 25, 2018, 10:41:32 AM
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I would love to know How did you get the Data?

Did you use web scraping tools like (BeautifulSoup) in Python or is it available in the Forum. I am new here, I am AI Engineer, I can get some awesome insights on the forum with this kind of data. Please guide me in the right direction.

Really good work with Data Visualization. What did you use? (Python + Plotly or Matplitlib or R or something totally new.)

Looks like you know your stuff, I'm just started to learn and didn't try anything special rather than importing data in csv form  Grin Problem that theymos didn't offer data in such an easy format.

I thought once that zentdex is the owner of "sentdex" channel on youtube, but he didn't confirm that. But if I see a tutorial on how to get data from simple machines forum on that channel, I wouldn't be too surprised.

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May 25, 2018, 12:51:58 PM
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 I am new here, I am AI Engineer, I can get some awesome insights on the forum with this kind of data.

I gave you a couple of merits to encourage you to experiment with this. It would be interesting to see a new members perspective.
You,  Mr Cash, just proved that no matter on quality of posts giving of Merit is subjective decision, someone give Merit for informative posts and some just for support, just like in this current case.
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May 25, 2018, 05:17:59 PM
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In my own point of view, some smerits are not distributed properly in the forum because of smerit trades happening secretly. Some smerit are given to same person that received 50 merits. That is why some good quality, constructive, creative, informative poster won't have a chance earning merits even though they really contribute to the forum. Not all new accounts are dummy some are real and new person who join and trying to contribute in any way.

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May 25, 2018, 05:42:05 PM
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You,  Mr Cash, just proved that no matter on quality of posts giving of Merit is subjective decision, someone give Merit for informative posts and some just for support, just like in this current case.

Actually the quality of a post is not the only factor I consider. A post may be good, but if I think the merit is going into the bounty spamming community, I'll probably pass on awarding merit. In this case, I thought the poster was joining the forum with an apparent attitude that I considered to be beneficial. I wanted to encourage him to continue. Hopefully his posting will help to drown the total rubbish produced by most new members.

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May 26, 2018, 09:25:21 AM
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This data really open my eyes.you did amazing work.
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May 26, 2018, 10:09:40 AM
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You,  Mr Cash, just proved that no matter on quality of posts giving of Merit is subjective decision, someone give Merit for informative posts and some just for support, just like in this current case.
Please stop call someone with prefix like Mr., Sir, gentleman, etc. It demonstrates that you tend to over-respecte someone you don't know. In addition, this sort of behavior is very common in beggars. After the launch of merit system, there are lots of merit beggars negatively fell into such stupid approach.
I mostly ignore threads which contains those words.

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