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December 22, 2013, 04:05:25 AM
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Hello. I run a small software development business. I was wondering if let's say 30 computers mining at roughly 10MH/s each to the same worker would be at all useful? I ask because my applications that I sell/distribute are made to be used for extended periods of time. So if a user is running my software and my software automatically runs CGMiner on their system (yes, I would get their approval first via the TOS), would it actually produce anything?


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December 22, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
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Hi, i'm new to this, but have some tips...

1 - are u trying to bulid a botnet?
2 - have u already tested cgminer or other mining software? They consume 100% of CPU resources. Open taskmanager and ser 100% CPU usage!!
3 - cgminer (or any other) have dependent files (DLLs,etc..)... So your program should carry/download them.
4 - with this approach, how to select/change pool? Will u ask redownload?
5 - Will u configure 1 worker for each download?
6 - totaly forget about SHA256 based coins. Only Scrypt. SHA256 are for GPUs/ASICS mining.
7 - even litecoin (scrypt), is already with high dificult
8 - Will miner run just when your program is running, or everytime computer starts? Stealth?
9 - firewall
10 - Will join a pool or create your own?

Results: try most recent launched Scrypt based coins... With low dificult...

These are some points to consider...

Good luck!
 
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December 22, 2013, 03:30:44 PM
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There was a post where we discussed this a few months ago, and even at today's prices, CPU mining would use more electricity than the BTC was worth, by far.  And that was estimated at about 280 million difficulty.

So even if it could be done, it would be very inefficient.
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December 22, 2013, 10:42:36 PM
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I'd think you'd definitely want to mine some of the alt coins, like ltc, instead of btc. Sure you could make some money but it's really arguable whether you'd cover the cost of electricity.

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December 23, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
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It's been done.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2068102/sneaky-software-turns-your-pc-into-a-bitcoin-mining-zombie-and-owns-up-to-it-in-the-eula.html

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December 23, 2013, 12:36:32 AM
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Hello. I run a small software development business. I was wondering if let's say 30 computers mining at roughly 10MH/s each to the same worker would be at all useful? I ask because my applications that I sell/distribute are made to be used for extended periods of time. So if a user is running my software and my software automatically runs CGMiner on their system (yes, I would get their approval first via the TOS), would it actually produce anything?


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Would I be better to use LTC?

Not worth it, you are wasting lots of electricity if you are not stealing it...
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December 23, 2013, 01:57:51 AM
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30 computers x 10 MHs = 300 MHs.
Won't make you jack at this hashrate, maybe you'll have luck with altcoins though, but it'll really be cost ineffective.
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January 02, 2014, 07:28:56 PM
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30 computers x 10 MHs = 300 MHs.
Won't make you jack at this hashrate, maybe you'll have luck with altcoins though, but it'll really be cost ineffective.

Can you even get 10Mh/s for mining altcoins out of each PC?
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January 02, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
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30 computers x 10 MHs = 300 MHs.
Won't make you jack at this hashrate, maybe you'll have luck with altcoins though, but it'll really be cost ineffective.

Can you even get 10Mh/s for mining altcoins out of each PC?
Not if it's Scrypt, which any altcoin worth mining is. You can get a (very) rough estimate of Scrypt hashrate by dividing SHA256 hashrate by 1000. 300MH/s->300KH/s. Very roughly, this'd earn OP ~.0025BTC/day, or ~$2.

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January 03, 2014, 07:20:26 AM
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OP trying to create a botnet.



So I agree, @ OP: Fuck you.
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January 04, 2014, 05:15:51 AM
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OP trying to create a botnet.



So I agree, @ OP: Fuck you.

He's already said that he'd get permission from the users.  As long as he doesn't just sneak it in I can't see a problem (ethically)

However, as other people have said.  It would cost the users more in electricity than it would generate for the OP in coins.
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January 04, 2014, 05:24:21 AM
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What kind of crap ware do you make? So I can avoid it. I probably don't need to avoid it, as I will probably never see it anyway.

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January 04, 2014, 06:09:43 AM
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More than likely IF you were to try this,the CPU would burn up.Most PC's have insufficient CPU cooling for high temps @ full load  Roll Eyes

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January 04, 2014, 06:41:58 AM
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OP trying to create a botnet.



So I agree, @ OP: Fuck you.

He's already said that he'd get permission from the users.  As long as he doesn't just sneak it in I can't see a problem (ethically)

However, as other people have said.  It would cost the users more in electricity than it would generate for the OP in coins.

oh please. this little trick has been done long before. malicious users bank on the fact that noone reads EULA agreements, and one such malicious software explicitly states it's going to use your computer to make money for the malicious user but people STILL click agree. sure, whoever falls for it is obviously not very smart, but does that make it any less of an asshole move?
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January 05, 2014, 05:32:27 AM
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Hello. I run a small software development business. I was wondering if let's say 30 computers mining at roughly 10MH/s each to the same worker would be at all useful? I ask because my applications that I sell/distribute are made to be used for extended periods of time. So if a user is running my software and my software automatically runs CGMiner on their system (yes, I would get their approval first via the TOS), would it actually produce anything?


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Would I be better to use LTC?

Rather than do this, which is a terrible idea, try to accept payment for software development in bitcoins. Try to develop bitcoin related software.

That is much better plan for increasing your coin count than what you proposed (lol).
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January 05, 2014, 06:54:35 AM
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Hello. I run a small software development business. I was wondering if let's say 30 computers mining at roughly 10MH/s each to the same worker would be at all useful? I ask because my applications that I sell/distribute are made to be used for extended periods of time. So if a user is running my software and my software automatically runs CGMiner on their system (yes, I would get their approval first via the TOS), would it actually produce anything?


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Would I be better to use LTC?

Consider to buy coins instead of using wrong tools for "mining".
BTC price already is $800+ and the other coins have now more value.
The exchange rate vs BTC is good too.
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