WTB 0.1-0.5 BTC for PAYPAL

[giletto]

Trading with paypal is not a problem if you find someone that is trustworthy. In this case, no one will even want to trade with you (in pp) since you have no trust. There are lots of people (trusted) who trade using pp, and i have a lot of customers trade using that platform.

Even this is not a 0.01% trust. I will tell you a story: I got a PM from a member with about 50 positive trust feedbacks. He offer me a miner from knc (actually offer 4), located in UK for 10BTC. I think ok, price sounds good, feedback looking good, i am in. He say no escrow, because he need the btc fast. Ok, i just ask him: can you send me a picture of the miners? First excuse: ah sorry, i am busy with work, my camera is broken, blabla. Hm...ok, next try. I ask him to let the miner run on my pool for a short time...second excuse: sorry no time for that, i need the btc immediatly, no time for that (WTF?), last but not least (it smells fishy for me already) i ask where exactly the miner are located, i could let a friend went there and meet at a public spot, check the miner and if he give me the ok, i send the btc within seconds, so we could finish the deal within 1 or 2 hour (remember, he would like to deal asap!)

The last answer is the best: he got mugged before so he fear to meet strange people....

Once again, a user with about 50 (!!!) postitive feedbacks.

Feedbacks are nothing worth until you trade a couple of times with the same trader, because they don't reflect the behavior and the intention of the trade partner at the first time. Even with somebody with 1000 postive Feedbacks i would never trust the feedbacks more then my common sense. Why? What about the REAL owner is not who write with you, what about it is a account hijacker? Or the account owner just allege it's not him?

I don't think this is the case. Look at his trust, all are about btc/pp trading.

I see 5 or 6 feedbacks. Wohaa. But his COUNTED feedback is still: Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)

As i say, let's wait 45 days and check it again. If he got more and more feedback, and over 45 days is nothing happen, i will delete my posts.

But right now can just warning all people who don't know:

Be aware of money return over Paypal within 45 days!

[cxboyminer]

Trading with paypal is not a problem if you find someone that is trustworthy. In this case, no one will even want to trade with you (in pp) since you have no trust. There are lots of people (trusted) who trade using pp, and i have a lot of customers trade using that platform.

Even this is not a 0.01% trust. I will tell you a story: I got a PM from a member with about 50 positive trust feedbacks. He offer me a miner from knc (actually offer 4), located in UK for 10BTC. I think ok, price sounds good, feedback looking good, i am in. He say no escrow, because he need the btc fast. Ok, i just ask him: can you send me a picture of the miners? First excuse: ah sorry, i am busy with work, my camera is broken, blabla. Hm...ok, next try. I ask him to let the miner run on my pool for a short time...second excuse: sorry no time for that, i need the btc immediatly, no time for that (WTF?), last but not least (it smells fishy for me already) i ask where exactly the miner are located, i could let a friend went there and meet at a public spot, check the miner and if he give me the ok, i send the btc within seconds, so we could finish the deal within 1 or 2 hour (remember, he would like to deal asap!)

The last answer is the best: he got mugged before so he fear to meet strange people....

Once again, a user with about 50 (!!!) postitive feedbacks.

Feedbacks are nothing worth until you trade a couple of times with the same trader, because they don't reflect the behavior and the intention of the trade partner at the first time. Even with somebody with 1000 postive Feedbacks i would never trust the feedbacks more then my common sense. Why? What about the REAL owner is not who write with you, what about it is a account hijacker? Or the account owner just allege it's not him?

I don't think this is the case. Look at his trust, all are about btc/pp trading.

I see 5 or 6 feedbacks. Wohaa. But his COUNTED feedback is still: Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)

And that's why Im telling people the aftermath of my trade with him. He is legit. But wait, you don't accept it. It's not my fault then is it? You kept saying that this is fishy and all those stuff even when at least 2 person traded with him successfully. It's your problem in this case. You are just choosing what you want to listen and what not to listen.

If I say "this guy is a scam!!!" I bet you are going to support my view. Since you did no trade with this guy you are like a blinded person in the thread. You want to listen to people with trade history for feedback and judgements. In this case, you only listen to bad reviews which there is non.

I traded with him twice.

FYI his feedback count is 0: -0 / +7(4)

[giletto]

I just warning user to be aware, that's it. And i even say already, if after 45 days nobody claim he is a scammer, i will delete my posts.

The feedback from him which i post is copy/paste: Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)

Look, i have no intention to blame him, because i even don't know him! And if you read my post well, you will found that i don't do it. Maybe he is a scammer, or maybe not. We will found it out after 45 days.

But it is interesting, what is YOUR intention, to fight for him, isn't?

[Light]

The feedback from him which i post is copy/paste: Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)

You don't actually understand the trust system properly do you. Trust ratings depend upon who are on your trust list, and by default people have the DefaultTrust list as their trust list, so only people on that list actually count to the +- values that you see. If you actually had a look, he does have feedback from others, it's just whether you trust that feedback. Just because people don't have a +- doesn't mean they haven't conducted legitimate trades.

[inflames666]

I did 2 trades with him. They were successful.

What is the problem?

[giletto]

Trading with paypal is not a problem if you find someone that is trustworthy. In this case, no one will even want to trade with you (in pp) since you have no trust. There are lots of people (trusted) who trade using pp, and i have a lot of customers trade using that platform.

Even this is not a 0.01% trust. I will tell you a story: I got a PM from a member with about 50 positive trust feedbacks. He offer me a miner from knc (actually offer 4), located in UK for 10BTC. I think ok, price sounds good, feedback looking good, i am in. He say no escrow, because he need the btc fast. Ok, i just ask him: can you send me a picture of the miners? First excuse: ah sorry, i am busy with work, my camera is broken, blabla. Hm...ok, next try. I ask him to let the miner run on my pool for a short time...second excuse: sorry no time for that, i need the btc immediatly, no time for that (WTF?), last but not least (it smells fishy for me already) i ask where exactly the miner are located, i could let a friend went there and meet at a public spot, check the miner and if he give me the ok, i send the btc within seconds, so we could finish the deal within 1 or 2 hour (remember, he would like to deal asap!)

The last answer is the best: he got mugged before so he fear to meet strange people....

Once again, a user with about 50 (!!!) postitive feedbacks.

Feedbacks are nothing worth until you trade a couple of times with the same trader, because they don't reflect the behavior and the intention of the trade partner at the first time. Even with somebody with 1000 postive Feedbacks i would never trust the feedbacks more then my common sense. Why? What about the REAL owner is not who write with you, what about it is a account hijacker? Or the account owner just allege it's not him?

I don't think this is the case. Look at his trust, all are about btc/pp trading.

I see 5 or 6 feedbacks. Wohaa. But his COUNTED feedback is still: Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)

As i say, let's wait 45 days and check it again. If he got more and more feedback, and over 45 days is nothing happen, i will delete my posts.

But right now can just warning all people who don't know:

Be aware of money return over Paypal within 45 days!

Regard to my story above, here is the thread about this "high trust feedback member" who i was talking about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393593.msg4274353#msg4274353

Read and understand. THAT is the reason, why trust level is nothing worth, as i sayed.

[cxboyminer]

Then do some small transactions first before doing big ones... Like i did with koshgel.

1) traded 0.259BTC for £115
2) helped me bought a computer and i sent him money back.

[giletto]

Yes, this is not a affront against the Thread opener here. I just want prove, that trust feedback is nothing worth. Even this user, project was starting small 1 year ago.

And now, with high reputation, he dissapear with more then 300BTC.

Still keep this in mind, and you never get frauded:

Feedbacks are nothing worth until you trade a couple of times with the same trader, because they don't reflect the behavior and the intention of the trade partner at the first time. Even with somebody with 1000 postive Feedbacks i would never trust the feedbacks more then my common sense. Why? What about the REAL owner is not who write with you, what about it is a account hijacker? Or the account owner just allege it's not him?

Common sense and experience > Trust Level.

[koshgel]

bump

Could use a couple bitcents. Paying preev rate

[koshgel]

bump

Could use a couple bitcents. Paying preev rate

[chrism1]

Happens to me all the time I sell items using paypal and, usually new account make disputes. anyone can fake a paypal account or get one. ANY Paypal can reverse. Sender has 45 days to claim dispute. So usually 15-25 days later I'd get email- money frozen on hold- Dispute! bs.

[koshgel]

buying up to .5 btc

[BlueMonkey]

Post your BTC address and I will send it instantly 

[BlueMonkey]

Waiting for my money

https://blockchain.info/tx/48445d8bcde2205add534ffd499ade2b14fff85cacc7c1650eb48b85dcbe23b0

[koshgel]

sent

thanks bluemonkey 

[BlueMonkey]

Nice trade. So just need 45 days and will trade with larger value if runs well

[Protrader]

Nice trade. So just need 45 days and will trade with larger value if runs well

are you still selling for paypal ?? pm your offer i also want to buy some litle .

[giletto]

I think this is really bad behavior to come across in other threads.

[dbanga85]

do you have more for sale?