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August 20, 2011, 02:47:35 AM
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Recently, there were two cases where I either released IP addresses of scammers or threatened to. In both of these cases, it was extremely plain that the accused people were guilty because they were both scamming on multiple accounts at the same IP addresses.

However, I have since received many requests to release the personal info of other alleged scammers. I have rejected all of these requests. These cases all required me to decide whether someone is guilty based on evidence that is not so clear-cut. I refuse to do this: the board will not arbitrate disputes.

So do not ask me to release IP addresses unless one of these statements is true:
- The accused person has admitted guilt
- The accused person is scamming on multiple accounts at the same IP addresses. (Obviously you can't determine this, but you can ask me.)
- You have compiled mountains of evidence that the person is guilty, and the person has been given several weeks to respond to the allegations (because you've posted a topic about it and you've PMed the person), and you have a global moderator or other very trusted person second your request. (Have the trusted person contact me to make the request.)

Otherwise I will probably just ignore these requests, as arguing with people about it is taking up too much of my time.

Reminder: The board is not here to protect you from scammers. Use escrow and arbitration.

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January 06, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
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Recently, there were two cases where I either released IP addresses of scammers or threatened to. In both of these cases, it was extremely plain that the accused people were guilty because they were both scamming on multiple accounts at the same IP addresses.

However, I have since received many requests to release the personal info of other alleged scammers. I have rejected all of these requests. These cases all required me to decide whether someone is guilty based on evidence that is not so clear-cut. I refuse to do this: the board will not arbitrate disputes.

So do not ask me to release IP addresses unless one of these statements is true:
- The accused person has admitted guilt
- The accused person is scamming on multiple accounts at the same IP addresses. (Obviously you can't determine this, but you can ask me.)
- You have compiled mountains of evidence that the person is guilty, and the person has been given several weeks to respond to the allegations (because you've posted a topic about it and you've PMed the person), and you have a global moderator or other very trusted person second your request. (Have the trusted person contact me to make the request.)

Otherwise I will probably just ignore these requests, as arguing with people about it is taking up too much of my time.

Reminder: The board is not here to protect you from scammers. Use escrow and arbitration.
Is this post still accurate?

If not, can you clarify what the forum policy is?


Obviously this place is rife with frauds and scams - a real shame given it is one of the first places people go to to learn about Bitcoin - so it would be enormously helpful if the victims at least knew what they had to do to have relevant information released to them.

I made a request regarding Creativex which (I believe) complied with the third statement above (including being seconded and submitted by a global mod (thank you)) but I have had zero response.
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January 06, 2014, 04:21:29 PM
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What about this insercoolusername guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386409.0

There's mountains of evidence against him on this site and others and the user admitted guilt and refunded people because he was doxed. He also has previous convictions for internet fraud.

Edit: Just saw this was necroed. Thought it was a new thread.

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January 06, 2014, 04:25:08 PM
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I hate to ask you this again, but... some time has past and it's become obvious that TradeFortress is not willing to attempt to resolve the situation with inputs.io, coinlenders, and his various bonds and shares. I'd like to request the forum release the information it has on TradeFortress.

He has made no contact at all with victims since early December and shows no intention of trying to resolve the situation in anyway.

It is also quite obvious he has used alt accounts in the past and there is evidence to suggest he still continues to. I'd like if you could provide his IP's and alt accounts, at the very least to prevent any further fraudulent activity.

Edit: I typed this out before the other requests... sorry for bombarding you with requests.

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January 06, 2014, 04:38:50 PM
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I hate to ask you this again, but... some time has past and it's become obvious that TradeFortress is not willing to attempt to resolve the situation with inputs.io, coinlenders, and his various bonds and shares. I'd like to request the forum release the information it has on TradeFortress.

He has made no contact at all with victims since early December and shows no intention of trying to resolve the situation in anyway.

It is also quite obvious he has used alt accounts in the past and there is evidence to suggest he still continues to. I'd like if you could provide his IP's and alt accounts, at the very least to prevent any further fraudulent activity.

Edit: I typed this out before the other requests... sorry for bombarding you with requests.

TF has admitted to using numerous alt account. For most of them I'd bet he was smart enough to switch VPN locations however I'm certain there were times he's logged in to different accounts from the same IP.  If this is true I would ask the form to at least release his know alts.
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January 06, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
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Guys, please don't derail the thread with requests.

THE ONLY TOPIC OF THIS THREAD IS FORUM POLICY

With that in mind:

Is the original post describing the forum policy still accurate?

If not, can Theymos please clarify what the forum policy now is?
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January 08, 2014, 12:32:38 AM
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Bumped, you know, for an answer.
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January 08, 2014, 03:38:18 AM
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I know this thread has been necroed but still a solid topic. Revealing the IP of some of these serial scammers could be a bit of a deterrent for future scams.
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January 08, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
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Current policy is to release IPs only in response to a court order or a reasonable police request. (I don't guarantee that I won't release IPs in other cases, though.)

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