I dont like the newbie policy regarding waiting period

[tonymidlee]

First I am a newbie here, but I am not a newbie in the digital world. The reason I want to register and post is all the sudden I have a good idea or want to talk to a very interesting post. However, the so called newbie policy killed the passion.

I understand you must have some reasons to restrict new registered user, from what I read trollers? but the benefit of saving some work for mods does not match the loss of a new passionate bitcoiner(or altcoiner).

I think the spirit of bitcoin is freedom and equal opportunity, but the so called newbie policy does not fit it.

I strongly suggest the forum remove this policy or at least make it reasonable. There are many other ways to stop trollers, like setting the post frequency, etc. Not like this!

Thanks for listening, hope more and more people join the family of bitcoin(or altcoin) family!

Merry Xmas to all! 

[infinitybo]

It's weird to say "listening" because actually people are "reading" you Merry Christmas too !

[berrtus]

I agree 100% and was also offended by this policy.  Additionally, when you first sign up there is no mention of this, that I noticed.  So then you waste time trying to figure out why there are no places to make a post.  That is HIGHLY INCONSIDERATE.  And yes it makes you not feel like participating at all once you find yourself relegated to newbie.  my only suggestion is that people look elsewhere for a more considerate forum.

[Lethn]

I don't like it either, but I think people who don't run forums or website don't understand what pests bot spammers can be, the only work around I have found for these scumbags is setting up a chat room that they aren't clever enough to sign into yet, unfortunately it's one of the only methods aside from captcha's ( which hardly ever work anyway ) to stop them. If they didn't do this, half their time would probably be spent banning over 20 spammers per day because that's the kind of stuff I had to deal with before and the worst part is on those invisionfree forums and stuff they don't even have a click all button.

[sssubito]

I think the current policy makes more sense than a arbitrary minimum of posts limit. A minimum post limit is easily passed by posting a bunch of useless posts in the appropriate part of the board. Or worse, some "me too" or "I agree" posts everywhere... 

So what is a substantial post here? A few sentences of valuably arranged words that make sense to others?

Gosh, right now I try to do this, hope noone is getting upset. Once there will be a time when a newbie gets initiated and looses its miserable status.

Looking forward...

[Lethn]

To be honest I think the only thing that will get rid of any of these restrictions including captcha's is a worldwide anti-spambot crusade, campaign is going to easy on them lol.

[berrtus]

Spammers may be a problem but that does not excuse the inconsiderate part of not explaining the policy and where to post from the beginning.  I always marvel at how spam is considered such a dire emergency and then look there are ads in between each post.

[spazzcat]

I some what agree and was lost to why I couldn't post. A lot of will come here from Google, read a thread and want to reply. So, we sign up, don't read everything, who does. Then be lost as to why you can't reply. I can see this slowing spammers down, but I don't see how it would stop them from create 100s of users, posting stuff in the newbie area and they waiting. Thing about spammers is they have time, spamming is their job...

[guybrushthreepwood]

Spammers may be a problem but that does not excuse the inconsiderate part of not explaining the policy and where to post from the beginning.  I always marvel at how spam is considered such a dire emergency and then look there are ads in between each post.

Are you sure it doesn't explain? It states in the Newbie readme sticky at least.

[hilariousandco]

First I am a newbie here, but I am not a newbie in the digital world. The reason I want to register and post is all the sudden I have a good idea or want to talk to a very interesting post. However, the so called newbie policy killed the passion.

I understand you must have some reasons to restrict new registered user, from what I read trollers? but the benefit of saving some work for mods does not match the loss of a new passionate bitcoiner(or altcoiner).

I think the spirit of bitcoin is freedom and equal opportunity, but the so called newbie policy does not fit it.

I strongly suggest the forum remove this policy or at least make it reasonable. There are many other ways to stop trollers, like setting the post frequency, etc. Not like this!

Thanks for listening, hope more and more people join the family of bitcoin(or altcoin) family!

Merry Xmas to all! 

You can't've been that passionate if a 4 hour wait killed your desire. Whilst I agree the limitations can be annoying as a new user, they're there as a security precaution and to cut down spambots etc.

[TheLostBuddha]

I too fell victim to this policy - however I know it was due to my own negligence as I do remember a key sentence reading something along the lines of "by agreeing ... you know that you will not be able to post until ... etc" -

In all fairness.. I get the policy. In my case the whole reason to even start an account here was trouble with one of my pools - the issue is resolved, but just now reading about a 4 hour wait while I had to set up an alternate pool was quite inconvenient when just posting a reply/question in the post would have solved the problem. 

The Policy is fine - there isn't much else you can do against spammers/bots.

[eternaluniverse]

It is in the terms and conditions when you register I believe, I didn't have a problem with it. I don't think the community is going to crumble because you guys can't post outside the newbie section for a few days.

[zoosher]

Well I might as well take advantage of this thread and make my first post, as I too have just joined. After reading the policy my first thoughts were "where do I start".

Not being funny but I see this as an opportunity to write my first few sentences.

I'm not practically clever when it comes to grammar and the queens English, thank goodness for spell check as I wouldn't be able to communicate.

Point being I've been reading the threads for about 3 weeks now, I find it Bitcoin fascinating and love the idea, being totally against the system all my adult life, I am in full support of it.

So to lay my cards on the table, I am here to learn and understand Alt currencies.

Viva the revolution.

 

[shtuffit]

Spammers may be a problem but that does not excuse the inconsiderate part of not explaining the policy and where to post from the beginning.  I always marvel at how spam is considered such a dire emergency and then look there are ads in between each post.

Spam clogs legitimate activity, the ads between posts help pay to keep this service up and running.

I think that the policies on minimum posts are a good thing, is it really that much to ask that you introduce yourself to the bitcoinTalk community before you focus on your own agenda? As someone who has managed forums in the past it is always a constant battle, on one had you do not want to alienate your user base by making your policies to strict, at the same time you don't want to spend all of your time on moderation.

If you have issues with the policy you are free to start your own forum

[eternaluniverse]

Im starting to like the policy even more because it will discourage individuals like the OP from being a part of community and individuals like last 2 posters would join instead.

[DeathAndTaxes]

I agree 100% and was also offended by this policy.  Additionally, when you first sign up there is no mention of this, that I noticed.  So then you waste time trying to figure out why there are no places to make a post.  That is HIGHLY INCONSIDERATE.  And yes it makes you not feel like participating at all once you find yourself relegated to newbie.  my only suggestion is that people look elsewhere for a more considerate forum.

Spammers may be a problem but that does not excuse the inconsiderate part of not explaining the policy and where to post from the beginning.  I always marvel at how spam is considered such a dire emergency and then look there are ads in between each post.

Life is easier when you start reading ...

Here is some important information about the forum. This is not a rulebook or agreement.

RESTRICTIONS FOR NEW MEMBERS

After registering, you will be unable to post in any section except "newbies" until you have spent some time on the forum and have published a few posts.

If you are registering to ask a question, please ask it in the newbies section. Do not wait to ask it just because you must post it in "newbies": the question is very likely to have already been asked. If you don't end up getting good responses, you can ask it again elsewhere after you are established, or you can move the entire topic.

If you are commenting on Bitcoin, use your newbie wait time to read more about Bitcoin. If you are criticizing Bitcoin, find similar criticism using the search tool to see which points have already been covered. A good use of your newbie wait time is reading Satoshi's old posts.

...

[ ] I understand that I will initially be unable to post to most forum sections, as explained above.

Note the portion that last sentence which requires your agreement (with checkbox) in order to create the account.

[netjmt]

Anyone is free to accept or to reject the TOC on this forum. Anyway, is just a way to keep spammers out of the way a little.

[data297]

So how many people read the TOS and came here first? Rather then discovering you couldn't make posts then when hunt hunting for the right thread?

[hilariousandco]

So how many people read the TOS and came here first? Rather then discovering you couldn't make posts then when hunt hunting for the right thread?

Let's be honest, who actually reads the TOS of forums when they sign up?

[Gabi]

Deal with it. You get "offended"?   QQ more  

Additionally, when you first sign up there is no mention of this, that I noticed

You are quick to get OFFENDED. But you can't be bothered to actually READ what you SIGNED? Go away please.  

In my opinion the newbie policy should be more restrictive, look what mess are the newbie creating  Not even reading what they sign