Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! (UPDATE: LIAR AND A SCAMMER)

[dalamchops]

Looking for $250 worth of Amazon GC, will send 20 BTC for it.

UPDATE IN LAST POST.

[dalamchops]

i REALLY hate how i can only send 10 pm in 1 hour..

[dalamchops]

Sh1337 was originally going to sell me a $250 AMAZON GC for 20 BTC. He agreed that i send him 10 BTC 1st and he send the code, and i'll send the rest.

Upon receipt of the 1st 10 BTC, he has decided that i was not trustworthy enough, and he agreed to refund the 10 btc.

I have asked him to send it back to address: 16tmn2yFX6QMJwacmyCJ1WG2hQT8pp63uq

Awaiting refund.

[Sh1337]

BTC refunded to designated address as promised.

~Shades

[dalamchops]

greyed out entry (unconfirmed) has NOT shown up in my wallet yet (shows up immediately for me every transaction), every block has been downloaded. Will update soon.

[dalamchops]

Yup, Still has not attached to a block. Still no greyed out entry in my wallet. Trader is a scammer. Beware!

Lesson learned, i gave trader benefit of the doubt, he provided no feedbacks, did not prove that he had the amazon gc, and i still trusted him. It's my own fault.

IF Sh1337 can come out and prove that he's innocent, then i am sorry. And i truly hope i am wrong.

[Sh1337]

Yup, Still has not attached to a block. Still no greyed out entry in my wallet. Trader is a scammer. Beware!

Lesson learned, i gave trader benefit of the doubt, he provided no feedbacks, did not prove that he had the amazon gc, and i still trusted him. It's my own fault.

IF Sh1337 can come out and prove that he's innocent, then i am sorry. And i truly hope i am wrong.

You are wrong. And I fear that you were the one trying to scam me. I feel bad that I can't do the trade with you, send you your bitcoins back, and now you call me a scammer?

You are a very bad businessman, sir.

[dalamchops]

everyone can check the address that you "allegedly" sent the btc to. There's no sign of it.

[dalamchops]

http://blockexplorer.com/address/16tmn2yFX6QMJwacmyCJ1WG2hQT8pp63uq

[OgNasty]

I am an honest trader and could sell you the gift codes if you still wanted them....  PM sent.

[trentzb]

BTC was not sent by Sh1337. It will show up at Bitcoin Charts shortly after send and then in Block Explorer after being included in a block.

[dalamchops]

BTC was not sent by Sh1337. It will show up at Bitcoin Charts shortly after send and then in Block Explorer after being included in a block.

If anyone cares, his mt. gox account is shades911.

[dalamchops]

for info : - he took loan from IBB and paid back 1.50

it's an easy way to build rep. He promised he returned the btc to the address already, but it's a public address and everyone can see it's not there.

[dalamchops]

yes, he also changed his name while trying to get the loan from me so got suspicious

sometimes it does take long time, from 45mins to around 3 hours for payment to arrive.

it should show up in the bitcoin charts.

it doesnt seem that he sent payment.

it could take time to show confirmation, but it hasn't shown up greyed out (uncofirm) in my wallet yet. Thx for your support.

[Stephen Gornick]

Public service message:
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Risk_of_fraud

[Sh1337]

Public service message:
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Risk_of_fraud

I hope you are not accusing me of anything fraudulent. I have not scammed any money whatsoever. I am new to bitcoins, and only understand how the sending and use of addresses works. I know that I recieved 10 BTC and I know that I sent the 10 BTC back to the address he gave me.

[dalamchops]

Public service message:
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Risk_of_fraud

I hope you are not accusing me of anything fraudulent. I have not scammed any money whatsoever. I am new to bitcoins, and only understand how the sending and use of addresses works. I know that I recieved 10 BTC and I know that I sent the 10 BTC back to the address he gave me.

Everyone can see that you didn't send the btc back. I've publicly announced the address that you need to send the BTC back to, you said you did it, but EVERYONE can see that you did not.

[haploid23]

Sh1337, where is your proof you sent back the BTC? this is pretty much the equivalent of you shoplifting and getting caught, and you swear that you payed for it yet you don't have the receipt and there's no record of the transaction on the store's computer. why don't you take a screenshot of your bitcoin client to show that you received the 10 BTC, and also sent it back to the same address. this is something easy to do, but if you're unable to do it, you just confirmed yourself a scammer.

[Maged]

Public service message:
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Risk_of_fraud

I hope you are not accusing me of anything fraudulent. I have not scammed any money whatsoever. I am new to bitcoins, and only understand how the sending and use of addresses works. I know that I recieved 10 BTC and I know that I sent the 10 BTC back to the address he gave me.

Sh1337, I apologize that these guys are jumping to conclusions. Here's what I'd like you to do:

First, start your client with the -debug command line option. Then, double-click the transaction you sent to 16tmn2yFX6QMJwacmyCJ1WG2hQT8pp63uq

Post the information here.

[Stephen Gornick]

I sent the 10 BTC back to the address he gave me.

That very well could be the problem right there.  Were the coins sent to the address provided in the forum post or were they "sent back" to the address where they appeared to have been sent from?  If the original payment was sent using an ewallet provider, then "returning" the funds to that address are instead sent to an address owned by the ewallet, and will not likely go to the right account.

If this is what happened, that too will be verifiable in the blockchain.  So the question is, exactly was the address you used when sending.

[Edited to clarify.]