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May 17, 2018, 07:02:36 AM
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There's alway some sad feeling going with newbies in any community, including this forum.

Firstly, newbies do not understand all neccesary regulations, thus may easily get hurt when their posts are deleted due to not conforming to rules. Secondly, newcomers are seen and sometimes treated as strangers who trying to get some precious resources from the cummunity. Thirdly, posts by juniors are probably not appreciated and usually passed by senior members (i.e. newbies writing just for other newbies reading, mostly). Forthly, trying to write good posts but not hoping much to get merits as mentioning in another thread obviously another discouraging thought to new members.

Anyway, I think that's quite normal, because all members have experienced such feelings when they just joined this forum. The only matter is how they manage to pass such little akward moments.

What're my solutions? Well, just follows common instruction: reading more, learning much, and trying to contribute useful posts within my current knowlege about cryptocurrency world, as much as I can.

How about you, new guys? Any better ideas?

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May 17, 2018, 07:29:38 AM
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I also go through this stage, the only way to pass is to read a lot, learn a lot. It is important for novices to read the rules of the forum to avoid deleting your posts or even locking your account. Here is my post about the code on Bitcointalk forum, please refer to here. Hope it will help you
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May 17, 2018, 08:46:34 AM
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Yes, I agree with you. But as in any business, it is impossible to learn something new, and often difficult, just reading something yourself. Why else are we all here? Isn't it to learn something new from each other? And sometimes understanding and patience Smiley
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Yes, it's difficult at the start but I believe with time one will overcome the challenges,  it can take months.
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May 17, 2018, 10:15:07 AM
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Firstly, newbies do not understand all neccesary regulations, thus may easily get hurt when their posts are deleted due to not conforming to rules.
To put it simply, your posts are getting deleted because it's useless or irrelevant. Simple as that.

Secondly, newcomers are seen and sometimes treated as strangers who trying to get some precious resources from the cummunity.
You don't even need to have an account to read topics and gain information. What are you talking about?


Thirdly, posts by juniors are probably not appreciated and usually passed by senior members (i.e. newbies writing just for other newbies reading, mostly).
It's simply because most junior members and newbies don't know shit and are here only for the bounties and nothing else. The only people that are complaining "sr members arent noticing our posts bla bla" are the ones who are complaining only because their posts are not good enough for merits.

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May 17, 2018, 10:45:33 AM
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I'm totally agree with you. I think newbie need time to learn more about forum, they can join to another discussion and gain activitiy. So they can share their knowledge after that.
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May 17, 2018, 11:00:19 AM
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Always read before asking too many questions about the site including post got deleted and leads to why newbies got mad ,its because they do not know the rules.

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May 17, 2018, 01:06:31 PM
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Another newbie wondering... Earlier I replied to a newbie and I guess the same message I have for you as well.

Well, since you are a newbie, I suggest you explore the forum for first few months.
Watch, read and engage. Improve your skills.
There are people including me learnt a lot (we are still learning) which we did not even have any clue! You can review one of my topic to see the things I have gained from BitcoinTalk and some others appreciations.
Self development and BitcoinTalk [Must read for new members]

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May 17, 2018, 01:14:48 PM
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There's alway some sad feeling going with newbies in any community, including this forum.

Firstly, newbies do not understand all neccesary regulations, thus may easily get hurt when their posts are deleted due to not conforming to rules. Secondly, newcomers are seen and sometimes treated as strangers who trying to get some precious resources from the cummunity. Thirdly, posts by juniors are probably not appreciated and usually passed by senior members (i.e. newbies writing just for other newbies reading, mostly). Forthly, trying to write good posts but not hoping much to get merits as mentioning in another thread obviously another discouraging thought to new members.

Anyway, I think that's quite normal, because all members have experienced such feelings when they just joined this forum. The only matter is how they manage to pass such little akward moments.

What're my solutions? Well, just follows common instruction: reading more, learning much, and trying to contribute useful posts within my current knowlege about cryptocurrency world, as much as I can.

How about you, new guys? Any better ideas?

If it is any consolation, I am a senior member here, but even my posts get deleted some times. I try not to dwell on it, but instead try to make better contributions the next time around. A good attitude, respect for others and a willingness to learn are key.

P.S. And don't forget, all legitimate members here had to start from scratch.
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May 17, 2018, 02:18:59 PM
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I like this thread!
Actually, I had my first account being banned because of some misunderstanding with the rules. But the rules are there to follow, so...
I would suggest using this forum for fair and honest reasons: learning and helping others to learn!  Wink

If you do so (or any newbie), you are fine !!!
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May 17, 2018, 02:43:14 PM
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Everything has a process. Only by continuous efforts and continuous learning, we can become more aware of this circle and become better friends. So don't be sad. Come on!
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May 17, 2018, 03:34:06 PM
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It's simply because most junior members and newbies don't know shit and are here only for the bounties and nothing else. The only people that are complaining "sr members arent noticing our posts bla bla" are the ones who are complaining only because their posts are not good enough for merits.

I can't but I agree with this.

As a newbie myself and for the short time I've been active here, I've followed bit of newbie posts and I can say a number of them are uninteresting even to me as a newbie.

I keep wondering, why is the recurrent complain about the ranking system, when in actual fact you don't even need any merit to get to a Jr. member; which allows you to participate in bounties, if that's your primary aim. But no! Newbies rather wants to become a Sr. Members overnight just for higher stakes. We have to understand that anything that'll last long successfully, don't come by accident. It takes time, effort, dedication and thorough planning.

For me, I'd say there are a whole lot of Sr. Members here who take notice of newbies posts and are willing to support newbies that they recognize to be showing potentials.

Well, at least that's been my own experience.


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May 17, 2018, 03:38:34 PM
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There's alway some sad feeling going with newbies in any community, including this forum.

Firstly, newbies do not understand all neccesary regulations, thus may easily get hurt when their posts are deleted due to not conforming to rules.

I like to welcome newbies, but seriously.... Can you not think of a quick solution to not knowing the rules? Hint: There are pinned post in which these are written.


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May 17, 2018, 04:10:31 PM
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Hello! I recently joined to litecoinpool.org and I have some issues, but when I click “Forum” it sends mi to bitcointalk.org, and I am beginner about virtual currencies. I need help with: a problem configuring mining_proxy or a problem is access connection to litecoinpool?
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May 17, 2018, 04:29:53 PM
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It is true to be a newbie is sad, because not knowing what in this bitcointalk world.
By reading and understanding what is being read in bitcointalk forums, I am sure newbie will know what is meant in this bitcointalk forum.
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May 18, 2018, 04:07:07 AM
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It's simply because most junior members and newbies don't know shit and are here only for the bounties and nothing else. The only people that are complaining "sr members arent noticing our posts bla bla" are the ones who are complaining only because their posts are not good enough for merits.

Maybe I'm wrong, you as a Sr. Member read and commented on my post. Frankly, your word is hurtful but mostly true  Cheesy.


If it is any consolation, I am a senior member here, but even my posts get deleted some times. I try not to dwell on it, but instead try to make better contributions the next time around. A good attitude, respect for others and a willingness to learn are key.
P.S. And don't forget, all legitimate members here had to start from scratch.

Well, your encouraging comment really helps. If posts by senior member may be deleted, then it doesn't matter if my post in the same situation. Just keep our chin up and keep reading, learning, and posting more.

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There's alway some sad feeling going with newbies in any community, including this forum.

Firstly, newbies do not understand all neccesary regulations, thus may easily get hurt when their posts are deleted due to not conforming to rules. Secondly, newcomers are seen and sometimes treated as strangers who trying to get some precious resources from the cummunity. Thirdly, posts by juniors are probably not appreciated and usually passed by senior members (i.e. newbies writing just for other newbies reading, mostly). Forthly, trying to write good posts but not hoping much to get merits as mentioning in another thread obviously another discouraging thought to new members.

Anyway, I think that's quite normal, because all members have experienced such feelings when they just joined this forum. The only matter is how they manage to pass such little akward moments.

What're my solutions? Well, just follows common instruction: reading more, learning much, and trying to contribute useful posts within my current knowlege about cryptocurrency world, as much as I can.

How about you, new guys? Any better ideas?

When I started learning about bitcoin back in 2014, I, too was overwhelmed with the information I was reading about it, up to the point that I kinda lost interest because I need to read a lot of things. However, the approach I did to learn all the stuff I know about is simple: churn down things slowly and do not bite them all at once. This will help you keep learning things without feeling any form of pressure, and will surely get you hooked up since you'll get interested on the ideology behind bitcoin and why it is one of the greatest tech innovations today.

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May 18, 2018, 07:27:32 AM
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Thirdly, posts by juniors are probably not appreciated and usually passed by senior members (i.e. newbies writing just for other newbies reading, mostly).
It's simply because most junior members and newbies don't know shit and are here only for the bounties and nothing else. The only people that are complaining "sr members arent noticing our posts bla bla" are the ones who are complaining only because their posts are not good enough for merits.

^^ This.
And if, on top of that, you add the users that are farming accounts to re-sell them, the cheap signature campaigns that encourage for mass spamming instead of quality content ... That makes a considerable amount of accounts posting whatever shit goes through their mind just to increase the numbers in their profile.
I mean .. Come one ... :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3076073.msg35107436#msg35107436
(This thread is a shitposter free for all ...)
Look at that guy's post history : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1538222

There's not much to do. Unfortunately, forum ranks apply to both type of users. However, merit doesn't.
I know it's not easy, but try to make stuff for the community. Not especially unique or remarquable things, but some cool and useful stuff is always appreciated. Smiley
Try to use your skills at their best. You must be good at something. Cheesy

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May 18, 2018, 08:13:47 AM
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I don't have much to say about newbies complain about junior ignoring them. I just wanna say that I'll keep reading and posting to gain knowledge and perhaps merits.
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May 18, 2018, 08:28:24 AM
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There's alway some sad feeling going with newbies in any community, including this forum.

Firstly, newbies do not understand all neccesary regulations, thus may easily get hurt when their posts are deleted due to not conforming to rules. Secondly, newcomers are seen and sometimes treated as strangers who trying to get some precious resources from the cummunity. Thirdly, posts by juniors are probably not appreciated and usually passed by senior members (i.e. newbies writing just for other newbies reading, mostly). Forthly, trying to write good posts but not hoping much to get merits as mentioning in another thread obviously another discouraging thought to new members.

Anyway, I think that's quite normal, because all members have experienced such feelings when they just joined this forum. The only matter is how they manage to pass such little akward moments.

What're my solutions? Well, just follows common instruction: reading more, learning much, and trying to contribute useful posts within my current knowlege about cryptocurrency world, as much as I can.

How about you, new guys? Any better ideas?
As far as precious resources, so what? Isn't that why everyone is here? If we are treated as "strangers", we will be discouraged to take part. Juniors aren't appreciated, so even after I go through the pains of no graduating from being a newbie, I am still not good enough. Great. As far as merits go, how in the heck is someone going to get a merit if no one likes them because they're a newbie or Junior?
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