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December 29, 2013, 08:14:18 AM
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Is there any chat service that is 100% secure, and encrypted chat that no government can track? I have nothing really to hide, but I like the fact that there is something out there that the government cant control. Cheesy

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December 29, 2013, 11:02:29 AM
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Is there any chat service that is 100% secure, and encrypted chat that no government can track? I have nothing really to hide, but I like the fact that there is something out there that the government cant control. Cheesy

I would've thought any public chat wouldn't be 100% secure, unless you were encrypting every message.
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December 29, 2013, 11:04:14 AM
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Is there any chat service that is 100% secure, and encrypted chat that no government can track? I have nothing really to hide, but I like the fact that there is something out there that the government cant control. Cheesy

I haven't tried it, but there's TORchat: http://lifehacker.com/5919523/torchat-is-an-easy-to-use-anonymous-and-encrypted-chat-client

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December 29, 2013, 08:08:44 PM
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Is there any chat service that is 100% secure, and encrypted chat that no government can track? I have nothing really to hide, but I like the fact that there is something out there that the government cant control. Cheesy

I haven't tried it, but there's TORchat: http://lifehacker.com/5919523/torchat-is-an-easy-to-use-anonymous-and-encrypted-chat-client

Ahhh, this will be fun. Cheesy

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December 29, 2013, 08:37:31 PM
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Basicly anything that uses "off the record communication" aka OTR.
Paper about it here: https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/otr-wpes.pdf

Pidgin uses OTR via Jabber (aka XMPP) http://www.pidgin.im/
OTR plugin here: www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
You should mask your ip with tor / proxy / etc though, so you might as well us this torchat, i have no idea what underlying protocolls it is using though.

Well according to https://github.com/prof7bit/TorChat its a pidgin plugin... but

Nope no OTR. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2010-December/004636.html

Well if it suits your needs, I hope these links help you to find out more about it and to make your choice.

If you want to use jabber, these servers run within tor:

  • jabber.ccc.de        >>    okj7xc6j2szr2y75.onion
  • https://riseup.net    >>    ztmc4p37hvues222.onion

Be carefull with your password though, because they are usually stored in plaintext
reasons here: http://www.ejabberd.im/plaintext-passwords-db


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December 29, 2013, 10:22:23 PM
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Basicly anything that uses "off the record communication" aka OTR.
Paper about it here: https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/otr-wpes.pdf

Pidgin uses OTR via Jabber (aka XMPP) http://www.pidgin.im/
OTR plugin here: www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
You should mask your ip with tor / proxy / etc though, so you might as well us this torchat, i have no idea what underlying protocolls it is using though.

Well according to https://github.com/prof7bit/TorChat its a pidgin plugin... but

Nope no OTR. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2010-December/004636.html

Well if it suits your needs, I hope these links help you to find out more about it and to make your choice.

If you want to use jabber, these servers run within tor:

  • jabber.ccc.de        >>    okj7xc6j2szr2y75.onion
  • https://riseup.net    >>    ztmc4p37hvues222.onion

Be carefull with your password though, because they are usually stored in plaintext
reasons here: http://www.ejabberd.im/plaintext-passwords-db



Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

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December 30, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

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December 30, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

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Try out bitmessage.
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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

Thanks. Fun to watch, a little on the light side though, but I guess you cant expect more in 20 minutes Smiley

Dilma Roussef is great.

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We expressed to the Government of the United States our disapproval, and demanded
explanations, apologies and guarantees that such procedures will never be repeated.
Friendly governments and societies that seek to build a true strategic partnership, as in our
case, cannot allow recurring illegal actions to take place as if they were normal. They are
ur/acceptable.
Brazil, Mr. President, will redouble its efforts to adopt legislation, technologies and mechanisms
to protect us from the illegal interception of communications and data.
My Government will do everything within its reach to defend the human rights of all Brazilians
and to protect the fruits borne from the ingenuity of our workers and our companies.

full speech here: http://gadebate.un.org/sites/default/files/gastatements/68/BR_en.pdf


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December 31, 2013, 01:59:11 AM
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Interesting Topics and I wish the Canadian gov't were as diligent in it's efforts on our behalf. Though I wish they hadn't brought in the AML and KYC. Getting registered on CAVIRTEX is a pain.
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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

Thanks. Fun to watch, a little on the light side though, but I guess you cant expect more in 20 minutes Smiley

Dilma Roussef is great.

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We expressed to the Government of the United States our disapproval, and demanded
explanations, apologies and guarantees that such procedures will never be repeated.
Friendly governments and societies that seek to build a true strategic partnership, as in our
case, cannot allow recurring illegal actions to take place as if they were normal. They are
ur/acceptable.
Brazil, Mr. President, will redouble its efforts to adopt legislation, technologies and mechanisms
to protect us from the illegal interception of communications and data.
My Government will do everything within its reach to defend the human rights of all Brazilians
and to protect the fruits borne from the ingenuity of our workers and our companies.

full speech here: http://gadebate.un.org/sites/default/files/gastatements/68/BR_en.pdf



He has actually made a few more ted talks. If you look on his personal site, you can find them.

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December 31, 2013, 10:43:26 PM
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no service is 100% secure, but i suggest cryptocat: https://crypto.cat
it uses otr and works in the browser so it's very easy to use.
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There is no software yet which match your requirements, but take a look to bitmessage.
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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

Thanks. Watching now.

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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

Thanks. Watching now.

It is probably one of the most interesting videos of all time!

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Hi, first post here. I'm glad to see there are some interesting topics at hand! I've been wondering about this kind of thing for a while (and with recent "for your own good" activities making news as of late, who isn't?) But I haven't have a chance to look up (or cook up) anything yet. So thanks for the links - Cryptocat in particular looks like a good solution for times you don't need something more involved (OTPs) or for corresponding with people who are less tech-savvy.   Cheesy
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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

Thanks. Watching now.

It is probably one of the most interesting videos of all time!

Well I wouldn't go that far, but it's an interesting video, but nothing I didn’t already know, but it's a good video to show to people who don't.

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Thanks for the reply. Was just wondering. Im not going to use this too much. I just watched a ted talk about NSA and how they track people and if a company doesnt comply, they hack them.

What talk was that. You got a link?

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

Thanks. Watching now.

It is probably one of the most interesting videos of all time!

Well I wouldn't go that far, but it's an interesting video, but nothing I didn’t already know, but it's a good video to show to people who don't.

There arent many presentations I get interested into. I only have been really interested in 3 talks. This, "How I held my breath for 17 minutes", and a talk about black holes in a observatory.

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have to say thanks for that link. That was a great talk. I will defiantly use this to show some of my layman friends.

Just an all round great little intro. Thanks Wink

http://youtu.be/9CqVYUOjHLw

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