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May 18, 2018, 11:31:02 AM
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The chain you found, OP, resulted in 2k+ deletions. And I just nuked another ~30 accounts behaving similarly, posting minor variations of the same thing hundreds of times. Really annoying. If anyone sees more of this nonsense, please report it.

The sad thing is this will just be the tip of the Iceberg. There are numerous people farming dozens if not hundred of accounts this way just by posting "nice project" or "waiting for bounty/airdrop" or whatever.

We're also currently being spammed by a new wave of bots that copy a random post and paste it in another random thread. They're pretty easy to spot as the posts are way off topic but there's seemingly hundreds of them. Must have nuked going on 50 already since yesterday.

Hundreds per thread a day. I would say well over a 1000 a day bombarding the altcoin section. Almost all of them are either copy and pasted garbage or generic responses like the "nice project" ones. Plus these one that combine several different compliments to make it appear more constructive at first glance.
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May 18, 2018, 11:43:48 AM
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The chain you found, OP, resulted in 2k+ deletions. And I just nuked another ~30 accounts behaving similarly, posting minor variations of the same thing hundreds of times. Really annoying. If anyone sees more of this nonsense, please report it.

Holy mother of Crisco, that's way more than what the google site search turned up! In other news, I received a PM saying I've been whitelisted by a mod; I have a feeling this will get filed under, "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"...  Grin


The sad thing is this will just be the tip of the Iceberg
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Fighting the spammers is definitely a Sisyphean task, so if viewed as work then it would soon become demoralizing. Much like The Pharmacist, however, I see this as a game/therapeutic, so even though most of the spammers are going to slip past me, every one that I spot who then gets nuked is eminently rewarding.
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May 18, 2018, 11:45:13 AM
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The sad thing is this will just be the tip of the Iceberg. There are numerous people farming dozens if not hundred of accounts this way just by posting "nice project" or "waiting for bounty/airdrop" or whatever.
In the past 5 days, I count 322 different Newbie accounts posting "nice project" (case insensitive, it may or may not be part of a larger post) . For "great project", I count 574 accounts.
And these are just the Newbies, I can't easily check higher ranks. Most of them should be nuked, some try to make posts longer, like this one:
This is a great project. Will this be available for all manufacturers like small and medium scale manufacturers? Because it will be a great benefit to them!
If I search for "This is a great project", I end up with 12 Newbies posting it in 5 days. One of them in a quote, which is a false positive when I search this way.


It is quite rewarding to see long lists of accounts nuked after I turn them in Cheesy

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May 18, 2018, 12:11:45 PM
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And these are just the Newbies, I can't easily check higher ranks. Most of them should be nuked, some try to make posts longer, like this one:
This is a great project. Will this be available for all manufacturers like small and medium scale manufacturers? Because it will be a great benefit to them!


These sorts of posts that tend to be what the paid bumping services make. Just enough to make it look like a genuine question and not just fake spam but still a mostly hollow question that's sole purpose is to keep the thread at the top. Check their other posts and if they're all the same or similar report them and they'll be looked into. Often patterns can be spotted like same email address and sign up dates etc.

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May 18, 2018, 12:41:45 PM
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And these are just the Newbies, I can't easily check higher ranks. Most of them should be nuked, some try to make posts longer, like this one:
This is a great project. Will this be available for all manufacturers like small and medium scale manufacturers? Because it will be a great benefit to them!
These sorts of posts that tend to be what the paid bumping services make. Just enough to make it look like a genuine question and not just fake spam but still a mostly hollow question that's sole purpose is to keep the thread at the top. Check their other posts and if they're all the same or similar report them and they'll be looked into. Often patterns can be spotted like same email address and sign up dates etc.
Indeed, it looks like a bumping service spammer. If you click JonhSunny224's post, you'll see many more posts from Newbies with 14 Activity on the same page. All registered on May 10, some with more than 10 posts already.

I read this today:
Quote from: anonymous source...
We have two promotion plans:
1) Your thread (ANN/Bounty/other) will be always at the top 24 hours a day.
Your project will be attract more attention from investors and bounty hunters.
This plan will not increase the number of post in your thread, but your thread will be always at the top.

We will also increase the views of your thread:
- minimum 50 000 reads per week
- minimum 200 000 reads per month

The largest plan - your thread will be all time on 1st place
Price for 1 thread:
- 0.3 ETH (0.025 BTC) per day
- 1.5 ETH (0.13 BTC) per week
- 5 ETH (0.42 BTC) per month

Simple plan - your thread will be all time at the top (on 1-8 places)
Price for 1 thread:
- 0.15 ETH (0.012 BTC) per day
- 0.75 ETH (0.06 BTC)per week
- 2 ETH (0.16 BTC) per month

2) Increasing the number of posts in thread.
The price for one page (one page has 20 posts) is 0.05 ETH (0.004 BTC)
In just 1 ETH (0.08 BTC) you will receive 20 pages (400 quality posts).
Thread bumping/spamming is starting to look like an industry, earning thousands of dollars per month! Bitcointalk should end this, maybe reject all Newbies and if needed Jr. Members too from those boards?
Or, as I suggested elsewhere: sell sticky spots for spam-free campaigns on those boards. If they're willing to pay 0.42BTC per month to be on top, let them pay it to the forum.

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May 18, 2018, 04:57:39 PM
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Thread bumping/spamming is starting to look like an industry, earning thousands of dollars per month! Bitcointalk should end this, maybe reject all Newbies and if needed Jr. Members too from those boards?
Or, as I suggested elsewhere: sell sticky spots for spam-free campaigns on those boards. If they're willing to pay 0.42BTC per month to be on top, let them pay it to the forum.

Another tactic would be to temp-ban the OP of the thread on the presumption they paid for the service. That is a bit more heavy-handed, I'll admit, so a lesser penalty would be "The Scarlet Letter" approach: temporarily lock the thread with a notice that it was done because of paid thread-bumping. The bad PR from that should vastly outweigh whatever (questionable) benefit might be derived from keeping a shitcoin's thread on the first page.

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May 19, 2018, 06:06:57 AM
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Whilst it becomes pretty obvious who is paying for these services if it becomes common knowledge that campaigns get banned for utilising them trolls or competitors could maliciously abuse them to take out innocent parties. I think those cases would be rare but it could happen. Sadly, there's just not a right lot we can do about it other than nuking the spammer accounts as spotted.

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May 19, 2018, 11:56:54 AM
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Whilst it becomes pretty obvious who is paying for these services if it becomes common knowledge that campaigns get banned for utilising them trolls or competitors could maliciously abuse them to take out innocent parties. I think those cases would be rare but it could happen. Sadly, there's just not a right lot we can do about it other than nuking the spammer accounts as spotted.

Right. As usual, I failed to consider the "malicious actor" situation...
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