Merit System: the true value behind it

[joulion86]

After starting out in the crypto scene I joined some Facebook groups, other Forums, Telegram groups etc. And everywhere HUNDREDS of people are trying to sell you ICOs, CFDs, Blogs, Newsletters... I could go on! Everywhere you go, you run into a huge hurricane of SUPERBAD advertising. With one exception: Bitcointalk.

I feel like in the crypto scene most people want to be heard because of the wrong reasons. This is not their fault, it is as usual the underlying system.

In cryptocurrency space, companies are super modern, often highly efficient. This also means outsourcing your marketing to affiliate marketers or build up a multi level marketing, to save a lot of money while thousands of users work for a share of profit. There is only one problem: If too many do it, it creates a toxic dust of advertising, which absolutely no one wants to see (Just look at your Facebook feed UGH! That's why everyone stops using it).

A good salesman will first ask you what you need, and then he will try to solve your problem with his product. A good salesman will built up a reputation as a good problem solver and will be a valuable guest in your house. Good marketing tries to do the same, but often fails as it is not a two street conversation. Which means no one likes it, as most of the time it is irrelevant for the user, making the platform you see the ad on less valuable for you. And this is exactly why the Merit system is so important:

- There is incentive for people to make useful posts. No spamming, no link posting in every thread, no sign up for newsletters.
- By this they actually need to think about what might have value for other forum members.
- In the end they will become better posters, and an addition to useful discussions.
- People with short-term profits in mind will be turned away due to long progression to higher ranks.
- Both cases add value to the bitcointalk.
- Ironically this will make it worth more again to advertise here  

Sorry for the wall of text, but I felt like I had to explain this train of thought after seeing people not agreeing with the system. For my part, I feel like it is super important for the future success of the forum.

Best regards

[1714123380]

1714123380

[1714123380]

1714123380

[1714123380]

1714123380

[mdayonliner]

~

Good to see that finally you have realised the benefits. From your post history, I have not seen anything yet until now. Keep up the good work, you will be respected.

[yazher]

You nailed it bro, like an annoying commercial on TV when people see it they quickly change the channel. I remember the Ariel 7.50 commercial on our country it's so annoying.

[change7]

This is a very detailed analysis of the inner workings of the merit system. It's a reward system for quality posts. It's actually worth it when one is rewarded for their effort to make an impact in a community where one belongs.

[joulion86]

~

Good to see that finally you have realised the benefits. From your post history, I have not seen anything yet until now. Keep up the good work, you will be respected.

Thank you! Usually I don't really have a lot to say or strong opinions about things, but I felt like this needed to be said.

[LogitechMouse]

~

I have read your thread. Its not like the other walls of text there that has no thought. You have shared positive things about the merit system and that is what we need instead of those other newbie shits posting "its hard to earn merit", "how can I rank up" blah blah blah.

In one part of your post, I saw how social media is used for advertising. Its not bad I think since there are many users in social media but in my experience, for example in facebook, all I can see on my home is this posts "You want legit business, PM Me #legit". "This is legit business" with pictures of money then saying "you want to join? Comment How". My home is full of advertising posts and now, I don't like to browse anymore in my facebook account because of these shitty advertisements WITH REFERRALS.

[joulion86]

Sounds like a true nightmare to me When I first got into Bitcoin, I actually joined a few Facebook groups about Crypto. That's when the real spamming begins. I can only imagine how you account must look. If you don't agressively leave all those groups and put all those people on ignores, it can really ruin your account.

[bluemongrel]

To be honest, I don't like some aspects of the merit system. The only reason I am going out of my way to post regularly is because I want to be able to use avatars. I am usually a person of little words, and I feel like making people post so much is just taking up more server space.

[krishnaverma]

To be honest, I don't like some aspects of the merit system. The only reason I am going out of my way to post regularly is because I want to be able to use avatars. I am usually a person of little words, and I feel like making people post so much is just taking up more server space.

Being able to use an avatar or link in signature is a privilege and every member should be ready to contribute something for it. Most of the forums require you to pay money for getting those privileges but it is completely free here.

No one wants you to post more to get merits. Short posts which are to the point and constructive can also get merits.

[Emilyearl]

I for one like the merit system although it stalled my ranking up but all in all I see it as a good course for the forum growth. Provided it helps get the forum vision right its good by me. And everyone should embrace it too.

[palle11]

To be honest, I don't like some aspects of the merit system. The only reason I am going out of my way to post regularly is because I want to be able to use avatars. I am usually a person of little words, and I feel like making people post so much is just taking up more server space.

I understand your plight and situation. More like men of little words. But, men of little words still say or should be able to say something that is reasonable, that would cover all the things that garrulous people would say in five pages just by "hitting the nail at the head".

I do not think the merit system is even advocating typing jargons in the name of covering space to get some merits - Nope. You can reasonably be concise, make your valid point, analysis and interested member/ reader can still give the post merit.

So, which ever way you are, you can make an analytical post and get a merit for it. Do you best and don't always look out for merit.

[vphasitha01]

After starting out in the crypto scene I joined some Facebook groups, other Forums, Telegram groups etc. And everywhere HUNDREDS of people are trying to sell you ICOs, CFDs, Blogs, Newsletters... I could go on! Everywhere you go, you run into a huge hurricane of SUPERBAD advertising. With one exception: Bitcointalk.

But recently I have seen that Bitcointalk- endorsed ICO(I think you know what I mean) So I think you will reconsider about the fact regarding ICO and Bitcointalk.

[Probinus]

Wow this is really away from all those merit system rants and ideas, I commend you for this.

~

Good to see that finally you have realised the benefits. From your post history, I have not seen anything yet until now. Keep up the good work, you will be respected.

I guess people change, or maybe just like what he said:

Usually I don't really have a lot to say or strong opinions about things, but I felt like this needed to be said.

people are sometimes just damn lazy to compose constructive posts but are in signature campaigns. I for one know what it's like to reply on SMTs since I am require to post 10 times per week with maximum of 20 (well, I don't think there's a problem with me wanting to also learn and earn), sometimes posting too much on Altcoin/Bitcoin discussion can make you look like a bot or shit poster or anything alike. While I don't really consider myself as a shit poster, i'm beginning to feel like one. Even so, I still try my best to be constructive as possible, at least i'm not a full time trash.


Sorry if this felt more like a rant rather than a post, well maybe it is, but meh. 

[seoincorporation]

- People with short-term profits in mind will be turned away due to long progression to higher ranks.

That's (sadly) not true, for the bounties accept newbies and even brand new. Maybe you're talking about signature campaigns and the avatar option in personal profiles.
Take a look at all the bounties accepting newbies and the posting activity they usually have as a result.

[joulion86]

But recently I have seen that Bitcointalk- endorsed ICO(I think you know what I mean) So I think you will reconsider about the fact regarding ICO and Bitcointalk.

No, what do you mean?

[Aikidoka]

I like people who have the tendency to post all of this and who supports the merit system. It has been 5 months since it has started and people are still complaining about it, not to mention that they wanted to bring it down because it has destroyed many people's lives. What a claim! Yet, the merit system has been glorious and I am sure it will bring this forum a prosperous future. Let us all have faith in both this system and this forum.

[zentdex]

~snip

Good point kid! Hope you'll become a better salesman someday.
I'll bet you could solve someone's problem by looking at the best perspective that could be beneficial to both.

[vphasitha01]

But recently I have seen that Bitcointalk- endorsed ICO(I think you know what I mean) So I think you will reconsider about the fact regarding ICO and Bitcointalk.

No, what do you mean?

Oh no..you didn't see this yet? or try to pretend that you haven't seen Howeycoin

[pandaki85]

For my part, I feel like it is super important for the future success of the forum.

Best regards

I'm with you on that point. And still many users are complaining about merit system 

[joulion86]

Oh no..you didn't see this yet? or try to pretend that you haven't seen Howeycoin

No I didn't! Sadly I really can't tell if a coin deserves recognition, but with theymos on it, it looks like it would be a sure-fire success?

I like people who have the tendency to post all of this and who supports the merit system. It has been 5 months since it has started and people are still complaining about it, not to mention that they wanted to bring it down because it has destroyed many people's lives. What a claim! Yet, the merit system has been glorious and I am sure it will bring this forum a prosperous future. Let us all have faith in both this system and this forum.

Thank you!