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[digaran]

@actmyname, suchmoon and marlboroza. let me tell you one thing, I will tag the 3 of you for abusing your DT power if you remove your tags on me. until then I'd avoid tagging you because that would be a retaliatory feedback. for now I have excluded you from my trust list.

[actmyname]

@actmyname, suchmoon and marlboroza. let me tell you one thing, I will tag the 3 of you for abusing your DT power if you remove your tags on me.

Good, because my feedback is going to stay there unless some outside force removes it. I wouldn't send out trust feedback unless I was willing to stick by it. There have only been about 3 instances in which the situation had changed after the fact. To which I went ahead and rectified the tag.

[digaran]

@actmyname, suchmoon and marlboroza. let me tell you one thing, I will tag the 3 of you for abusing your DT power if you remove your tags on me.

Good, because my feedback is going to stay there unless some outside force removes it. I wouldn't send out trust feedback unless I was willing to stick by it. There have only been about 3 instances in which the situation had changed after the fact. To which I went ahead and rectified the tag.

Quoted.

[endlasuresh]

Could you explain why you tagged Bazinga and why it took long time to tag him?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1246188
archived thread https://archive.li/xg1fJ

Saw the thread. What relevance does this have?

Here we go you kept negative for him on 2018-05-19 and the reference thread dated April 02, 2018, 10:12:28 AM

Why it took time to put this point on his wall?? please explain this thing?

quoting for reference, please answer this one.

[digaran]

Lol, I have quoted something to hold against this abuser in the future, why would you quote a question by this abuser for future reference? we know that actmyname is an alt account and is colluding with other DT members, otherwise there is no need to keep him on DT. there are people with more tags than him and yet they are not on DT2. he has DT1 members in his pocket or has something against them and they are afraid of him. otherwise why the hell would they keep this power abuser on DT2?

I bet that actmyname would expose some of the DT members if he is excluded. if he is excluded then he wouldn't be able to use this account to settle personal issues with people.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Quoted.

When you quote something for reference, it's usually something incriminating that could maybe be used against that person in the future. I fail to understand why you have a quoted a perfectly reasonable statement that essentially says "I stand by my words unless I am presented with new evidence". I suspect it is because even you (along with everyone else) have no idea what you are talking about.

quoting for reference

I didn't think it was possible, but you are making even less sense than digaran. You quoted your own question for reference? I don't even. The question also makes no sense. A thread was started on May 19th drawing attention to Bazinga442's shady practices - actmyname clearly read it and then tagged them. What is not to understand?

[endlasuresh]

Quoted.

When you quote something for reference, it's usually something incriminating that could maybe be used against that person in the future. I fail to understand why you have a quoted a perfectly reasonable statement that essentially says "I stand by my words unless I am presented with new evidence". I suspect it is because even you (along with everyone else) have no idea what you are talking about.

quoting for reference

I didn't think it was possible, but you are making even less sense than digaran. You quoted your own question for reference? I don't even. The question also makes no sense. A thread was started on May 19th drawing attention to Bazinga442's shady practices - actmyname clearly read it and then tagged them. What is not to understand?

It is called TRUST ABUSE,
He got one negative point for that thread and it is enough why he revoke on Hhampuz thread?  Suchmoon already made negative thing in april, does your actmyname is sleeping or didnt seen in Atriz scam thread?

Digaran You are right, there are some other people, although last time I contacted to Namecheap to offer the adress, but they said will look into the matter.
This time Ill send to the FBI and other local police.

[o_e_l_e_o]

It is called TRUST ABUSE,
He got one negative point for that thread and it is enough why he revoke on Hhampuz thread?  Suchmoon already made negative thing in april, does your actmyname is sleeping or didnt seen in Atriz scam thread?

So your issue with this situation isn't Bazinga442 trying to scam people, or with Bazinga442 leaving nonsense retaliatory feedback, but with actmyname not reading every thread in the forum the day it was written? Lol. Just lol.

[actmyname]

we know that actmyname is an alt account and is colluding with other DT members

Damn, your superior deduction skills have finally caught me now. No wonder you offered mediation services for people with negative trust! There's no way that you're completely wrong.

otherwise there is no need to keep him on DT. there are people with more tags than him and yet they are not on DT2.

Show me these users and the valuable tags that they have (directed toward neutral/positive-trust users). If they have tagged shady individuals that are still roaming around then you should highlight them. However, some people approach trust very differently (e.g. TBZ) and that can cause hesitation with including others into DT.

he has DT1 members in his pocket or has something against them and they are afraid of him.

I'm glad you think that I have so much power but extortion is not my thing.

otherwise why the hell would they keep this power abuser on DT2?

I bet that actmyname would expose some of the DT members if he is excluded. if he is excluded then he wouldn't be able to use this account to settle personal issues with people.

I have no personal issues with people before I tag them. It's only really afterward that they get all butthurt and riled up about it, creating threads about me and my abuse.

[digaran]

we know that actmyname is an alt account and is colluding with other DT members

Damn, your superior deduction skills have finally caught me now. No wonder you offered mediation services for people with negative trust! There's no way that you're completely wrong.

otherwise there is no need to keep him on DT. there are people with more tags than him and yet they are not on DT2.

Show me these users and the valuable tags that they have (directed toward neutral/positive-trust users). If they have tagged shady individuals that are still roaming around then you should highlight them. However, some people approach trust very differently (e.g. TBZ) and that can cause hesitation with including others into DT.

he has DT1 members in his pocket or has something against them and they are afraid of him.

I'm glad you think that I have so much power but extortion is not my thing.

otherwise why the hell would they keep this power abuser on DT2?

I bet that actmyname would expose some of the DT members if he is excluded. if he is excluded then he wouldn't be able to use this account to settle personal issues with people.

I have no personal issues with people before I tag them. It's only really afterward that they get all butthurt and riled up about it, creating threads about me and my abuse.

You are not tagging marlboroza for giving me free pass. because you trust him, right? yet his action should be taken into account as untrustworthy by your standards but you don't want to tag him. because you are part of a same cartel, you trust each other and distrust outsiders. therefore you are not fit to hold any power. those who would give you this power are also unfit and untrustworthy and should not be trusted by anybody. you are willing to close your eyes for those who you trust, the same people you trust are the ones keeping you in power. a.k.a cartel. you have been called out several times for abusing your power and yet you are still on DT. keeping you on DT could mean that you are in bed with other DT members.

Even after forum admin excluded you, still you are on DT, DT1 member who has kept you on DT2 is a rogue individual and doesn't care about other people, you all only care for the people in your cartel.

If you think that what I have said is against the rules you should report me to authorities, I haven't actually asked anybody to pay me money in order to remove my red trust from them. there has been no actions taken by me to make me look guilty. show me one instance where I have asked for money for myself, if you don't like my policies regarding how to deal with people you have no right to tag me red for everybody to see me as scammer.

I said something and then I saw the reactions from community and stopped to continue down that road, why are you holding that against me and are trying to keep me down with your DT power? I didn't keep at saying that we should take money from people I even removed my tags where I have asked for money from people to be paid to the forum in exchange of removing their tags. how is this for change of circumstances?

After marlboroza removed his tag on me, I didn't say that anymore, why would you bring that issue up again and tag me for it?

Now I'm telling you even if you remove the tag from my account I will tag you for abusing your power, if you keep the tag on me, I will try to kick you out from your position, you have had your chances of making this right yet you have refused to listen to reason. if I don't listen to reason as others have pointed out, I have no power over others, so my actions are not damaging anybody's reputation. your actions are however damaging our reputations.

Even if I have said something, I haven't done anything wrong, I have just said it, you on the other hand are not only saying but you are doing. damaging my reputation. if you don't have the balls to tag marlboroza, you don't deserve to hold your DT power, you are weak and are afraid of people in power. you can just tag me because you know that I have no power to make you pay for your mistakes. but you know if you tag marlboroza you could lose your position.

[HCP]

You are not tagging marlboroza for giving me free pass.

Forgive my intrusion.... but can you explain to those of us trying to follow this, how exactly marlboroza is "giving you a free pass"?

This user continues to spread lies, harassing forum members, DT and moderators/stuff, running very shady law practice service which consist of trolling DT members and spreading lies all over the forum.

I have the "default" trust settings... and as far as I can see, marlboroza has tagged you with negative trust. I wouldn't call that a "free pass"

[digaran]

You are not tagging marlboroza for giving me free pass.

Forgive my intrusion.... but can you explain to those of us trying to follow this, how exactly marlboroza is "giving you a free pass"?

This user continues to spread lies, harassing forum members, DT and moderators/stuff, running very shady law practice service which consist of trolling DT members and spreading lies all over the forum.

I have the "default" trust settings... and as far as I can see, marlboroza has tagged you with negative trust. I wouldn't call that a "free pass"

He changed red tag to neutral. according to actmyname's standards, that is giving me a free pass. actmyname were also aware of the situation, he didn't tag me back then because marlboroza had me tagged already. marlboroza already gave me a neutral trust as a troll but he tagged me again. I'm practically a target practice for these cartel members we call DT members. they know that I have no power here.


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[actmyname]

You are not tagging marlboroza for giving me free pass. because you trust him, right? yet his action should be taken into account as untrustworthy by your standards but you don't want to tag him.

They are untrustworthy by my standards? Show me how.

because you are part of a same cartel

This cartel shit has got to stop. This is just a redundant blanket statement you keep throwing around as rhetoric.

you trust each other and distrust outsiders.

I have never sent a PM to marlboroza. Or, if I have, then it was for something so insignificant I have forgotten about it.

therefore you are not fit to hold any power. those who would give you this power are also unfit and untrustworthy and should not be trusted by anybody.

Exclude Blazed on your trust list then.

you are willing to close your eyes for those who you trust

What happened to aTriz? What happened to Ryland? I would actually like to point out that I was the one that caught the account (which used to be a treasurer, IIRC).

the same people you trust are the ones keeping you in power. a.k.a cartel.

There have been a few times that I have thought marlboroza was too extreme. This was pre-DT, mind you. I don't necessarily trust all of their opinions but a significant portion of them seem to coincide with mine.

you have been called out several times for abusing your power

By you and other butthurt users, with the same zero-substance arguments out of spite.

and yet you are still on DT. keeping you on DT could mean that you are in bed with other DT members.

Even after forum admin excluded you, still you are on DT

I have already addressed this. If theymos wanted me off DT, theymos could implement a rule that allowed all of his exclusions to count as 999 exclusions. The reason I am still on DT is because he wants a fair system. theymos is not a king.

DT1 member who has kept you on DT2 is a rogue individual and doesn't care about other people, you all only care for the people in your cartel.

Read above.

If you think that what I have said is against the rules you should report me to authorities

Great. I'll just phone up all the police in every country, warning them about a "digaran" online.

I haven't actually asked anybody to pay me money in order to remove my red trust from them. there has been no actions taken by me to make me look guilty. show me one instance where I have asked for money for myself, if you don't like my policies regarding how to deal with people you have no right to tag me red for everybody to see me as scammer.

I have already addressed this same argument. It doesn't matter where the money goes. How many times are you going to repeat the same old shit?

yet you have refused to listen to reason.

Projecting.

Even if I have said something, I haven't done anything wrong

This is where we disagree. If you carry intent to do something, then you should be punished, even if you did not carry through with it. If you were conspiring to commit terrorist acts and were ready to carry through with the plan but were caught beforehand, you can't plead innocence by stating that you haven't actually done it yet. Who waits until after something has been done to prevent people from doing it?

if you don't have the balls to tag marlboroza, you don't deserve to hold your DT power

Ah, yes. I should punish marlboroza for changing feedback!

you are weak

Well which is it? Am I weak or am I abusive?

and are afraid of people in power.

False.

but you know if you tag marlboroza you could lose your position.

False.

[marlboroza]

This user continues to spread lies, harassing forum members, DT and moderators/stuff, running very shady law practice service which consist of trolling DT members and spreading lies all over the forum.

I have the "default" trust settings... and as far as I can see, marlboroza has tagged you with negative trust. I wouldn't call that a "free pass"

Oh man, I really wrote "stuff" 

Ah, yes. I should punish marlboroza for changing feedback!

No sir, I beg you, please! Don't punish me! 
My master Don Hilly has already punished me because I wasn't good slave

[digaran]

This user continues to spread lies, harassing forum members, DT and moderators/stuff, running very shady law practice service which consist of trolling DT members and spreading lies all over the forum.

I have the "default" trust settings... and as far as I can see, marlboroza has tagged you with negative trust. I wouldn't call that a "free pass"

Oh man, I really wrote "stuff" 

Ah, yes. I should punish marlboroza for changing feedback!

No sir, I beg you, please! Don't punish me! 
My master Don Hilly has already punished me because I wasn't good slave

Here we can see that they are taking trust system as a joke, they wont tag those in their trust network for doing something that is untrustworthy according to them, however they would issue red tag on other people who are not in any position of power. these people only fear their own masters and have no regards for other human beings. they should be discarded and tagged for their misbehavior which is actually damaging the reputation of long standing forum members. they are unfit to represent the trust network of this forum. and we all know this forum is also partially representing Bitcoin. this really looks bad for a decentralized revolution of cryptocurrency. I'd like to urge the community members to exclude these power abusers from their trust network by adding ~actmyname ~suchmoon ~marlboroza under default trust on their trust setting page.



Please note that the names I have excluded are based on my own personal interactions with these people. don't trust them.

[actmyname]

Here we can see that they are taking trust system as a joke, they wont tag those in their trust network for doing something that is untrustworthy according to them

Would you care to show evidence of this?

however they would issue red tag on other people who are not in any position of power.

Tags are given to everyone. It's just that 99.9% of the forum is not in any position of 'power'. You probably mean DT/staff.

these people only fear their own masters and have no regards for other human beings.

Who are our masters?

and we all know this forum is also partially representing Bitcoin.

Sure. So do online scams. So does the investor-based games section which is just essentially a place for scams to manifest.

this really looks bad for a decentralized revolution of cryptocurrency.

I'd like to urge the community members to exclude these power abusers from their trust network by adding ~actmyname ~suchmoon ~marlboroza under default trust on their trust setting page.

I still don't understand what I'm getting out of tagging you

don't trust them.

If you think we are untrustworthy, shouldn't you send out negative feedback to us?

[digaran]

Would you care to show evidence of this?

Instead of shitposting blindly, read marlboroza's post.

Tags are given to everyone. It's just that 99.9% of the forum is not in any position of 'power'. You probably mean DT/staff.

A.K.A cartel. only 0.01% are controlling everything. that is bad for this forum with people claiming to support decentralization.

I still don't understand what I'm getting out of tagging you

What do you get from tagging me? indeed tell us what do you get? I have no power, if I have said something it was just words. however you are not objective in your judgement and have a poor understanding of people. anybody reading this whole topic would realize your motivations.

If you think we are untrustworthy, shouldn't you send out negative feedback to us?

I would tag your asses after you remove your tags on me, otherwise tagging you would be a retaliatory feedback which I'm strongly against. you keep holding me down with your power on DT2. you are refusing to listen to reason and you have refused to right your own wrong doings. you should get booted off the DT2 to save this community from more unwanted discussions. if we take a look back, we'll see that after I got tagged by marlboroza I was kicked out from the signature campaign. however after he changed his tag on me to neutral I didn't join any signature campaign, I decided to focus on something more than myself. the situation of the forum made me to be cruel and forced me to ask for money in exchange of my time. I decided to charge money to represent wrongfully red tagged people. but suchmoon decided to tag me in order to stop me from exposing DT abusers.

You tagged me right after this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3853171.msg37596979#msg37596979

Check the timing of your tag and that post to see if I'm right or not. obvious alt account.

Marlboroza tagged me for trolling.

All three tags are illegit and should be removed. but you guys are very high on your power drug that you can't accept the truth. therefore I'd like to ask DT1 members to exclude you from their trust network. everybody should do that. just take a look at my red tags and decide for yourselves. ignore our names and our posts. tell me if I really deserve them and if I should be red tagged and to be called scammer by default?

Say it and have the same situation at your door one day. tell the truth or lie. both of them will find you one way or another.

[actmyname]

Instead of shitposting blindly, read marlboroza's post.

You're trying to create a false equivalence between your attempted actions and marlboroza's actions. Think it through again to see why they are not equivalent.

A.K.A cartel. only 0.01% are controlling everything. that is bad for this forum with people claiming to support decentralization.

Propose a better system then... but then you also want theymos to control the reins of the trust system, which create centralization rather than decentralization. :/

What do you get from tagging me? indeed tell us what do you get? [...] anybody reading this whole topic would realize your motivations.

Okay... so what are my motivations?

You tagged me right after this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3853171.msg37596979#msg37596979

Check the timing of your tag and that post to see if I'm right or not.

I can't because feedback won't show the exact time. You're again trying to instill some post hoc argument.

obvious alt account.

Not sure why tagging you on multiple accounts would do anything, in the case where I am an alt of suchmoon.

All three tags are illegit and should be removed.

Are you saying that my feedback was wrong? Because you can feel free to show me how you weren't trying to charge people for removing red tags.

I'd like to ask DT1 members to exclude you from their trust network.

You would like to but it seems every time you're asked to, you don't want to.

tell me if I really deserve them

Yes.

[suchmoon]

I decided to charge money to represent wrongfully red tagged people. but suchmoon decided to tag me in order to stop me from exposing DT abusers.

This right here shows why your "service" was bogus. You can't represent yourself, let alone someone else. You just make random shit up. You were claiming that I negged you because of your merit application, now you're claiming it was to stop you from exposing DT abusers. Lying does not inspire trust and you seem to be a compulsive liar.

[o_e_l_e_o]

This right here shows why your "service" was bogus. You can't represent yourself, let alone someone else. You just make random shit up. You were claiming that I negged you because of your merit application, now you're claiming it was to stop you from exposing DT abusers. Lying does not inspire trust and you seem to be a compulsive liar.

I've lost count of the number of times this has been explained to him by multiple other people, but he won't listen. It seems that he doesn't consider taking money and providing nothing in return to be scammy behaviour.