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[digaran]

I don't believe it, so Lutpin who is also a DT2 and a merit source has handed out positive trust for people who were involved in the promotion of a scam project such as Bitconnect? what else you expect from DT members, after all they are in a position with leverage to do whatever they want, such as countering negative feedbacks on suspected extortionists or those trying to sell some items by auctioning them and suddenly bidding on their own auction to increase the price.
I don't expect anything less from Blazed trust list. of course theymos is not paying any attention to these cases because they are small, he would only take action if he thinks that he is in danger of being held liable by the court of law, until then don't wait for him to do anything. really sad.

How can you be a "DT investigator" and not comprehend the difference between sent and received feedback?

Rhetorical question, don't bother answering.

That just made it worse, now you are telling me that Lutpin was the manager of a scam project such as Bitconnect? well this shit is getting interesting day after day. however you put it, another trusted member of this forum was involved with shady activities. no wonder.
Thanks for correcting my mistake btw.

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[marlboroza]

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You don't know how happy I am because we are in different time zone.

[actmyname]

That just made it worse, now you are telling me that Lutpin was the manager of a scam project such as Bitconnect?

No. You're not properly reading and thus you are making a fool of yourself with these false presumptions.

Here's who you're looking for: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=710241

[suchmoon]

That just made it worse, now you are telling me that Lutpin was the manager of a scam project such as Bitconnect? well this shit is getting interesting day after day. however you put it, another trusted member of this forum was involved with shady activities. no wonder.
Thanks for correcting my mistake btw.

No, I'm not telling you anything of the sort. You've gone full retard completely on your own, don't try to blame me for this 

[digaran]

That just made it worse, now you are telling me that Lutpin was the manager of a scam project such as Bitconnect?

No. You're not properly reading and thus you are making a fool of yourself with these false presumptions.

Here's who you're looking for: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=710241

So why nobody has tagged Edwardard yet for managing a scam project like Bitconnect?(is there actually anything related to Bitconnect scam here? did somebody managed their promotion campaign and still walking with no red tags?) I'm taking the information from cjmoles post and I should've had read the trust ratings myself, nothing has changed yet though, actmyname has tagged Wapinter for being an alt of an account seller, he also countered Vod's negative trust on Anduck
I apologize to Lutpin for any inconveniences. (even if somebody is misinformed and misjudges a situation doesn't mean they're wrong all the time, I have misjudged this situation and accused somebody while I should have done more research before doing so, I'm not perfect and I could make mistakes like everybody else, the important part is that I was made aware of my mistake and I apologize for it, unlike many DT members here, they would do and say whatever they want and when somebody points out their mistakes instead of fixing it they'd insist on it.)

No, I'm not telling you anything of the sort. You've gone full retard completely on your own, don't try to blame me for this  

You seem to be happy when I make a mistake, I don't blame you for it.

Don't forget that actmyname is also involved with a company with fake twitter followers. just ignore me for being wrong about Bitconnect and Lutpin. take what is actually real, tagging their competition left and right.

EDIT: here is the fucking evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1692930 why nobody has tagged this campaign manager for managing a scam project?

[HCP]

Again...

There is a BIG difference between:

A. Being hired to run a signature campaign by a scam ICO/business.
and
B. Being directly involved with the management and running of said scam ICO/business.

If you can prove that the manager had knowledge that the ICO/business was a scam and was still actively promoting them (ala aTriz and the bitblisscoin fiasco), then that is indeed something they should be held liable for.

However, if they were just as unaware as everyone else, how can you blame them for the scam?

[digaran]

Again...

There is a BIG difference between:

A. Being hired to run a signature campaign by a scam ICO/business.
and
B. Being directly involved with the management and running of said scam ICO/business.

If you can prove that the manager had knowledge that the ICO/business was a scam and was still actively promoting them (ala aTriz and the bitblisscoin fiasco), then that is indeed something they should be held liable for.

However, if they were just as unaware as everyone else, how can you blame them for the scam?

Tell me this is another of your jokes please? Bitfuckingconnect was an obvious scam from the beginning and they accepted to manage their scam regardless. it doesn't matter now though does it? they have already collected the money and that manager has received his share of the scammed money for managing that scam promotion, this is not news for us, this forum is directly and indirectly endorsing total scams, we even have several sections just for scammers to promote and launch their scams. after all scam is not moderated to avoid abusing the power of moderation facking lol. DT members a.k.a trust moderators however are selectively moderating the scams and the trust system though.

If they say somebody is a scammer people would believe them and when they don't say anything, people would think there is no scam so they would put their money on scams because nobody said anything to warn them.
Said manager is now free to manage other campaigns like nothing has ever happened, even if he is tagged he could easily jump to another account and start managing with other accounts.

[actmyname]

Tell me this is another of your jokes please? Bitfuckingconnect was an obvious scam from the beginning and they accepted to manage their scam regardless.

From their "what is" page (here) I don't see anything that can constitute as an 'obvious scam'.

If they say somebody is a scammer people would believe them and when they don't say anything, people would think there is no scam so they would put their money on scams because nobody said anything to warn them.

You mean people would still blindly gamble on shady sites because there's no red tag? I don't think so.

even if he is tagged he could easily jump to another account and start managing with other accounts.

Then that other account would have to either start from zero and manage only scams or be tagged when it's linked back to the original.

[suchmoon]

Bitfuckingconnect was an obvious scam from the beginning

Really? Why did you want to mine it if it was so obvious?

I thought to give this a try and solo mine it, now I have a problem when I start my miner it says no payout address was provided so we're going to switch you sorry ass to get work, how do I set my payout address? I don't want to get scammed by you Chinese. lol

[HCP]

Tell me this is another of your jokes please? Bitfuckingconnect was an obvious scam from the beginning and they accepted to manage their scam regardless.

Personally, I believe the same could be said of about 99% of all the ICOs being announced in the Altcoin section.

Do I think that these managers should be more careful about which campaigns they sign up for... of course I do. It reflects badly on you if you're managing a campaign for something that turns out to be a scam.

Do I think they should be held liable if it does turn into a scam? Not unless they are actively involved in the project and/or executing the scam itself. Most of these managers just create a google form, google spreadsheet and check a few twitter/facebook/telegram/bitcointalk posts. The chances of them having ANY inside knowledge that a project is a scam is generally pretty low. If they suspect that the project is a scam, then they shouldn't be managing it.

It's like trying to blame a TV/Radio station or a billboard company for a scam because they accepted an advertising contract for the scam. The people to blame, are the scammers. The managers are often just an easy target because they're still here... unlike the scammers, who are sipping mojitos on a tropical island somewhere.

I noted with interest that at least one campaign manager has started explicitly stating what I think is obvious, but I guess this is the world we live in :

The bounty manager(s) is a facilitator and not the bounty-issuer. They will not be held liable in the event of a breach of contract by the bounty-issuer or failure to fulfill their obligation. Facilitation is NOT an automatic endorsement of product or service being offered, unless explicitly stated. We reserve the right to change the campaign at any moment, and reject people based on our judgement.

[digaran]

Bitfuckingconnect was an obvious scam from the beginning

Really? Why did you want to mine it if it was so obvious?

I thought to give this a try and solo mine it, now I have a problem when I start my miner it says no payout address was provided so we're going to switch you sorry ass to get work, how do I set my payout address? I don't want to get scammed by you Chinese. lol

I started to mine because I believe in coins where you can mine them without paying to coin holders on exchanges to buy them. this is off topic.
Actmyname tagged me after marlboroza removed his tag on me, why?

[suchmoon]

I started to mine because I believe in coins where you can mine them without paying to coin holders on exchanges to buy them. this is off topic.

Wait, what? How did your mining of "an obvious scam from the beginning" suddenly become off topic in a thread about the reasons for your negative trust? Sounds like one more solid reason because it turns out you "believe" in scams.

Actmyname tagged me after marlboroza removed his tag on me, why?

Actmyname also tagged you after an asteroid passed really close to the Earth. Must be them nasty aliens causing all this.

[digaran]

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Bitconnect or at least the mining part of it became obvious scam for me after I couldn't mine it. but it seems that you are more interested on my actions than actmyname, this is a normal behavior for those who are in a group such as being on Blazed trust list, no matter what your friends are doing, they are always trusted and what they do is always right, studies show this behavior is common among cartel members. the fact is that actmyname is using default trust as a personal tool, we could see it where he is tagging people for something they did in the past and he is doing it selectively. he is giving free pass to a few and red trusting others as he sees fit.

Either Blazed has got a payment for including this trust abuser on his trust list or actmyname has something on Blazed, I don't see any other reason as to why would Blazed is keeping him on his trust list.

[suchmoon]

Bitconnect or at least the mining part of it became obvious scam for me after I couldn't mine it.

Bitfuckingconnect was an obvious scam from the beginning

Which is it?

Blazed

Have you contacted Blazed yet?

[Flying Hellfish]

Either Blazed has got a payment for including this trust abuser on his trust list or actmyname has something on Blazed, I don't see any reason as to why would Blazed is keeping him on his trust list.

Self incredulity is a hell of a drug.  Just because you're too stupid to understand more than your two options exist, doesn't make it any less true.  You are one of the least informed users I have come across on these forums and your bias is as big as the fucking planet,

You remind of the fucking eminem ft dido song "stan".  You have an unhealthy obsession with power figures (you've made some downright creepy remarks about theymos) and when rebutted by no one paying attention to you, you went off the fucking deep end.

[digaran]

Blah blah blah blah

What are you on about? there is no mention of theymos here, I am concerned about Blazed to be in bed with some trust abusers, obviously he is supporting the actions of people on his trust list and their actions are not something that we should condone, forum members such as actmyname and suchmoon are misusing the trust system, you don't usually see them tagging real scammers rather they are tagging whomever they want. I don't think trust system is a personal tool to use for personal gains such as eliminating the competition and settling personal quarrels.

You don't care about any of that because you are only here to earn money by any means necessary, I don't expect anything less from somebody like you.
It wont be so shocking if later we find out that actmyname actually paid Blazed to get on his trust list. actmyname just recently started to tag more and more people for whatever they have done in the past to make it look like he is actively tagging scammers but that was just a stupid move to do.

[actmyname]

What are you on about? there is no mention of theymos here

of course theymos is not paying any attention to these cases because they are small, he would only take action if he thinks that he is in danger of being held liable by the court of law, until then don't wait for him to do anything. really sad

you don't usually see them tagging real scammers rather they are tagging whomever they want.

The latter is true. I do tag who I want. If I didn't want to tag account traders then I wouldn't. The former is false. I do tag scammers. If you didn't cherry-pick data then you would see those cases.

actmyname actually paid Blazed to get on his trust list.

The reason I got onto DT is something that I did for myself. I didn't even expect anyone to care about it.

actmyname just recently started to tag more and more people for whatever they have done in the past to make it look like he is actively tagging scammers but that was just a stupid move to do.

If you take the sample space for the age of the scam, then you'll see that it's quite evident that you would find older scams as opposed to newer scams. This is, however, assuming that your comment is correct. A lot of the feedback that I've been sending is in response to new threads that out shady activity whereas the bulk of my feedback was in February, which is a bit after my inclusion to DT.

[suchmoon]

I am concerned about Blazed to be in bed

Kinky, but I'm concerned if you have actually contacted Blazed yet, or do you just spread rumors behind his back?

[digaran]

I am concerned about Blazed to be in bed

Kinky, but I'm concerned if you have actually contacted Blazed yet, or do you just spread rumors behind his back?

Are you horney now? shame on you, there are underaged individuals lurking around.

I would like you to take a look here and here. thank you for your time.

Further more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=134378 I am the man of my words, now please if anybody wishes to kiss Blazed's ass and tag me more, do it one at a time, I'm not a whore like Alia. lol.

[suchmoon]

I would like you to take a look here and here. thank you for your time.

Further more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=134378

Excellent, good job. Now all you need to do is wait for a response. Can you do that?