adamb (OP)
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December 31, 2013, 01:40:35 AM |
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I'm about a week from beta testing NSACoin and then a week or two after that we will mine the genesis block and have the release...no pre-mine but the starting difficulty will be rather high as a result of how the network will act.
Every time you find a block your IP will be revealed to the network and 10-15% of the network power will be devoted to DDOSing your IP until the next block is found.
Basically, this coin is like Russian Roulette with a payoff. You will get coins but then you'll get DDOS'd until the next block is found, rendering you unable to mine. The hope is that we will be able to kill off mining pools and people with large mining farms and give more power back to single miners.
This is a Scrypt based coin so you can go GPU crazy on it.
The reason I'm announcing it now is that I need probably 50-100 testers to make sure that this going to work reliably. There is no reward for being a tester other than a bunch of lols.
Please post below if you would like to be a tester
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insanehero
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A tough dogie
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December 31, 2013, 01:44:14 AM |
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- This post has been DDoS'd -
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CATCOINS 4 LIFE! 9qpWzT1QkEuY7dUAhrVjbK2LawPzG1cs2U
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black_swan
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December 31, 2013, 01:44:19 AM |
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ROFL I just love this! Count me in for testing, contact by PM when we start! Happy DDoS everyone!
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FreePls
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December 31, 2013, 01:44:42 AM |
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godly! then low hashers have a chance to thats my coin... THATS my coin!
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SaltySpitoon
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
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December 31, 2013, 01:45:28 AM |
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My sides
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atp1916
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December 31, 2013, 01:46:28 AM |
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Need an EricSnowdencoin
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eon89
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★YoBit.Net★ 350+ Coins Exchange & Dice
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December 31, 2013, 01:46:59 AM |
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I was wondering when there would be an NSA coin. This is great.
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thcst8
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December 31, 2013, 01:47:44 AM |
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lol I gotta see this
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elbill
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December 31, 2013, 01:49:53 AM |
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I want test it!
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El Cabron
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December 31, 2013, 01:53:01 AM |
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I find this kinda lulz but this is illegal (in the usa and odds are most other sane places).
If this gets big, expect the FBI to start raiding peoples homes.
You can not consent to a DDOS, that is unless you own your own ISP.
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boomerjackson
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December 31, 2013, 01:54:27 AM |
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im in
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GreekBitcoin
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getmonero.org
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December 31, 2013, 01:55:21 AM |
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I find this kinda lulz but this is illegal (in the usa and odds are most other sane places).
If this gets big, expect the FBI to start raiding peoples homes.
You can not consent to a DDOS, that is unless you own your own ISP.
or unless if you dont live in US
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shigoga
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December 31, 2013, 01:57:05 AM |
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Resereved, i like this NSAcoin.
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naturalog
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December 31, 2013, 01:59:05 AM |
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it's crazy so after finding a block the best is to close all ports. anyway what will make people not to change their IP address, or use any kind of proxy.
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FreePls
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December 31, 2013, 02:11:32 AM |
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perhaps you can bind the miner to your computer ID and if you find a block you get disconnect for a random amount of time
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El Cabron
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December 31, 2013, 02:13:14 AM |
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it's crazy so after finding a block the best is to close all ports. anyway what will make people not to change their IP address, or use any kind of proxy. everyone will just use TOR. Sounds like someone wants TOR dead.
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eddilicious
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December 31, 2013, 02:16:30 AM |
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am I getting DDOS'd after posting here?
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December 31, 2013, 02:20:39 AM |
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Haha really cool idea
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pmm123
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December 31, 2013, 02:20:47 AM |
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am I getting DDOS'd after posting here?
PAY THE CATS TO DELLOS OR PEOPLE DON'T TRUST YOU
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combo
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December 31, 2013, 02:25:02 AM |
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reserved
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vaelrock
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December 31, 2013, 02:43:12 AM |
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What if we mine through SSH using a proxy in a DDOS protected major datacenter with ip failover at hand ?
And how will this work for pools ?
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romerun
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
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December 31, 2013, 02:49:00 AM |
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Reserving
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Xaltotun
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December 31, 2013, 02:50:12 AM |
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Wouldn't it be better if it was cpu based? I'm sure the VPS operators would love the business.
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Thorgrim
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December 31, 2013, 03:01:34 AM |
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Sounds cool. Reserved.
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Bigeyeone
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December 31, 2013, 03:02:10 AM |
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if this works, especially if it scales up, this coin could create random havoc on the internet, but It doubt it will go anywhere, most people like a functioning internet connection and they not going to give that up to mine a new coin, and also what about pools ? how that work when a pool goes offline after finding a block ? like what you think the pool webhost gonna do, when the pool causes outages of the entire webhost. but heey, It's innovation
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December 31, 2013, 03:05:09 AM |
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Is this legit?
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xinyichao
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December 31, 2013, 03:53:24 AM |
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good
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surfer43
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December 31, 2013, 04:30:00 AM |
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Doesn't this mean pools will be able to get every other block? How about DDoS website of choice for a fee
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theomoplatapus
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December 31, 2013, 04:50:50 AM |
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But can we solo mine it?
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#Bitcoin
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rmhuntley
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HALA MADRID
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December 31, 2013, 04:52:47 AM |
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I"ll test it
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Bigeyeone
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December 31, 2013, 04:55:09 AM |
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it's crazy so after finding a block the best is to close all ports. anyway what will make people not to change their IP address, or use any kind of proxy. everyone will just use TOR. Sounds like someone wants TOR dead. Interesting could be the real NSA coin
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December 31, 2013, 04:55:18 AM |
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I love this IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigeyeone
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December 31, 2013, 04:57:27 AM |
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I love this IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah but your neighbours will not, powerfull enough DDOS can take out entire subnets
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El Cabron
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December 31, 2013, 04:57:57 AM |
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I love this IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why?
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singula
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December 31, 2013, 05:14:05 AM |
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Big pools will just use 2 IP addresses, while one is DDoSed, all the operation continue under the second...
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Big brother is not watching you anymore. Big brother is telling you how to live.
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RenegadeMind
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December 31, 2013, 05:14:21 AM |
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Will NSACoin read my emails for me too?
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singula
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December 31, 2013, 05:18:18 AM |
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All your email will be stored in the blockchain automatically, all PGP-encrypted emails automatically decrypted in the process.
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Big brother is not watching you anymore. Big brother is telling you how to live.
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Pythonideus
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December 31, 2013, 05:24:18 AM |
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For the logo, how about the ancient aliens guy and underneath him it says "Terrorists."
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adamb (OP)
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December 31, 2013, 03:49:44 PM |
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All your email will be stored in the blockchain automatically, all PGP-encrypted emails automatically decrypted in the process.
This will be in v1.1
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Nullu
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December 31, 2013, 03:59:06 PM |
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What if a malicious attacker uses it to intentionally cripple a machine? You're essentially creating a willing botnet with a huge amount of power that could cripple the host computer. I suppose as the difficulty rises the odds of finding a block are greatly decreased, and the odds of it happening would be considerably less likely, but just the thought is a little scary.
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adamb (OP)
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December 31, 2013, 06:01:05 PM |
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We might instead be changing this a bit so that rather than attack you, the network simply blocks you.
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stslimited
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December 31, 2013, 07:50:24 PM |
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We might instead be changing this a bit so that rather than attack you, the network simply blocks you.
I was thinking about this concept, after much lulz, and in either case, the miner will have an incentive to change IP addresses, a relatively simple thing to do and some people will have more resources to do this than others It will also be easy to block the network's ion cannons
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December 31, 2013, 08:39:36 PM |
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I'm about a week from beta testing NSACoin and then a week or two after that we will mine the genesis block and have the release...no pre-mine but the starting difficulty will be rather high as a result of how the network will act.
Every time you find a block your IP will be revealed to the network and 10-15% of the network power will be devoted to DDOSing your IP until the next block is found.
Basically, this coin is like Russian Roulette with a payoff. You will get coins but then you'll get DDOS'd until the next block is found, rendering you unable to mine. The hope is that we will be able to kill off mining pools and people with large mining farms and give more power back to single miners.
This is a Scrypt based coin so you can go GPU crazy on it.
The reason I'm announcing it now is that I need probably 50-100 testers to make sure that this going to work reliably. There is no reward for being a tester other than a bunch of lols.
Please post below if you would like to be a tester
A fixed IP address costs around $5 per month. One only needs 2 addresses to work around this design. Say I have 2 addresses, IP1 and IP2. I generate a block with IP1, then let it get attacked, while generating a block at IP2. When IP2 is done, I switch back to IP1, and so on, alternating between the addresses.. This design won't reduce mining centralization.
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BC-Trader
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December 31, 2013, 08:42:53 PM |
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inb4 IP's start disconnecting people's service over this
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eddilicious
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December 31, 2013, 11:28:45 PM |
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We might instead be changing this a bit so that rather than attack you, the network simply blocks you.
I was thinking about this concept, after much lulz, and in either case, the miner will have an incentive to change IP addresses, a relatively simple thing to do and some people will have more resources to do this than others It will also be easy to block the network's ion cannons Two hands up. whoever got a new block will not be granted another block in the next 4 blocks. done. guaranteed decentralized.
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January 01, 2014, 12:51:39 PM |
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DDOS is a bit overkill for banning purposes. More sophisticated method would be to modify the protocol just to deny multiple blocks in the row from the same ip. But then again, there's no point if pool has two public ip's for broadcasting found blocks to the network. Every time a block has been propagated, other ip goes down and the pool operates with the non-banned ip.
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I'd buy that for a dollar bitcoin!
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January 01, 2014, 01:15:55 PM |
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How would this work against ddos protected pools?
I like the idea, but think you need another method, like it blocks the previous pay out address from winning the next round, but still, that can be worked around quite easily too.
Like others have said the Ddos idea would be quite simple to dodge (rotating ips, tor new identity etc)
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rmhuntley
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HALA MADRID
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January 03, 2014, 02:06:58 AM |
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We might instead be changing this a bit so that rather than attack you, the network simply blocks you.
I was thinking about this concept, after much lulz, and in either case, the miner will have an incentive to change IP addresses, a relatively simple thing to do and some people will have more resources to do this than others It will also be easy to block the network's ion cannons Two hands up. whoever got a new block will not be granted another block in the next 4 blocks. done. guaranteed decentralized. I like this idea. I've been on pools where the same 2 people discover almost EVERY single block. it gets kind of frustrating for those that can't throw 10,000+ kh/s
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January 03, 2014, 02:14:57 AM |
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Lold at this thread. What a great idea, and what a pity it will never work.
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kingimg
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January 03, 2014, 04:18:06 AM |
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so no pool ...and how and where to mine?
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eddilicious
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January 03, 2014, 05:00:19 AM |
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We might instead be changing this a bit so that rather than attack you, the network simply blocks you.
I was thinking about this concept, after much lulz, and in either case, the miner will have an incentive to change IP addresses, a relatively simple thing to do and some people will have more resources to do this than others It will also be easy to block the network's ion cannons Two hands up. whoever got a new block will not be granted another block in the next 4 blocks. done. guaranteed decentralized. I like this idea. I've been on pools where the same 2 people discover almost EVERY single block. it gets kind of frustrating for those that can't throw 10,000+ kh/s yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. up up up. this is the coin I want to mine
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January 11, 2014, 11:44:54 PM |
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this idea seems kind of a joke
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January 11, 2014, 11:48:55 PM |
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Wow I love this!
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