NSA can rob peoples BTC wallet in new devices such as the iphone

[Interized]

Any of the many intercepted devices can exploit and steal your Bitcoins through the NSA and people who figure out the backdoors.

[Reece523]

I think identity theft is a much more likely prospect for most people. Compared to fiat, cryptocurrencies are incredibly safe if you take the precautions often recommended on this forum (e.g. use a good storage solution like Armory)

[franky1]

the NSA are not that special. so will people stop FUDDing the forums with government conspiracies.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

[BittBurger]

[justusranvier]

Watch this video, then look around see if you can figure out who on the forum is paid to spread disinformation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA

[ElectricMucus]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/worldwide-jewish-conspiracy-worried-it-came-down-t,34815/

[jubalix]

for this reason its better to use laptops and os's that are older, eg, before 2009, no one really new to make something to catch BTC or mod hardware, I mean they did not even know what BTC was.

I do wonder what some bored or enterprising coder in Microsoft or OSX may decide to slip in there....to silently take some coins

[zSprawl]

I still use PC-DOS!!...

[MrPalmer]

the NSA are not that special. so will people stop FUDDing the forums with government conspiracies.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

While I don't spend my time sweating the NSA, I do think it can be foolish to doubt such a powerful organization.  Just because they can't do something specific now, doesn't mean they won't be able to tomorrow.

[battlescars]

That is scary,  very scary , i would really feel more comfortable if a new company dedicated to privacy started making nice phones.
I really dont think that will ever happen but i dont trust the eyephones or the samsungs, i need a company that is dedicated to privacy.
I dont think that will like ever happen, and if it does it wont be known to the internet.

[tvbcof]

That is scary,  very scary , i would really feel more comfortable if a new company dedicated to privacy started making nice phones.
I really dont think that will ever happen but i dont trust the eyephones or the samsungs, i need a company that is dedicated to privacy.
I dont think that will like ever happen, and if it does it wont be known to the internet.

I'm sure that the NSA refers to i-foo users as 'zombies' for a reason, and I have no doubt that Android devices are just about as bad.  I think it entirely likely that any data which is on or has passed through any of my Android or Windows systems has been compromised.  I'm not especially worried about having my money stolen unless the various backdoors are discovered and exploited by criminal third parties though I anticipate that that is just a matter of time.

Probably we'll need to start from raw silicon and have open source hardware from start to finish in order to have much confidence in our compute resources going forward.  Also have manufacturing processes audited by trusted entities (perhaps the likes of the EFF.)

I do believe that the market for such developments will exist at some point.  It's a big world, and a lot of us feel that it is entirely appropriate to enjoy a reasonable amount of privacy.  The question in my mind is mostly along the lines of whether such efforts will even be allowed to proceed should the run the danger of being successful in achieving a goal of reasonable privacy.

[Bigeyeone]

the NSA are not that special. so will people stop FUDDing the forums with government conspiracies.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

You got to be kidding us, UK intelligence agency has more computing power to bruteforce a password then the NSA

[MrPalmer]

the NSA are not that special. so will people stop FUDDing the forums with government conspiracies.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

You got to be kidding us, UK intelligence agency has more computing power to bruteforce a password then the NSA

True.  Is there a source to this claim?

[JekyllIsland]

the NSA are not that special. so will people stop FUDDing the forums with government conspiracies.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

So basically because the NSA can't break encryption they designed to be unbreakable they should be laughed at? I guess we shouldn't worry about mass surveillance, and the exploitation of our brothers and sisters?(paid for with our tax dollars of course) 

Drones? Lol nah, NSA can't break pgp encryption and sha-256 breh

the NSA are not that special. so will people stop FUDDing the forums with government conspiracies.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

You got to be kidding us, UK intelligence agency has more computing power to bruteforce a password then the NSA

True.  Is there a source to this claim?

www.theonion.com

[pening]

Any of the many intercepted devices can exploit and steal your Bitcoins through the NSA and people who figure out the backdoors.

Oh dear.  Logic failure.  It long been argued that "they" wouldn't engineer back doors for the very good reason that if they were discovered lots of very important government/commercial information would be compromised.  A leak could blow open all security.  Now lets look to a leak, Snowden, and its evident that NSA etc have focused on interception.  Why would you try interception if you've got back doors in everything?  You would not, so in effect Snowden's revelations have shown that NSA have not got back doors written into systems.

if you want some bitcoin related evidence that NSA are hopeless. look at the DPR news. the NSA had to send DPR's wallet over to the UK's intelligence office to brute force the password. the NSA cant crack encryption, nor do they have the computer power or skill to bruteforce.

Though i've no doubt to us Brit's fine IT skills, its passed to UK so its nice and legal.  We do the same the other way.

[Nancarrow]

Any of the many intercepted devices can exploit and steal your Bitcoins through the NSA and people who figure out the backdoors.

You forgot to write "ATTACH KEYWORDS: NSA, exploit, bitcoin, chart, proof, evidence" on the end of this. How can we possibly believe you if you don't instruct us to imagine that you've supplied proof and evidence?


Also, have you had a chat with the forum member called "Actor_Tom_Truong"? I think you'd get on really well. Once you'd each figured out that the other wasn't a member of the Illuminati, you could tell us all how you did it so we can improve our infiltration of the world's banking and political systems. Shit, did I just type that out loud? 

[bryant.coleman]

Smartphone wallets are not safe anyway. I have only BTC 0.002 in my android wallet. No use in having much, as I can't shop using BTCs in my area.

[Arksun]

It honestly makes me sad that we have this whole generation of people growing up that find conspiracy sites and take them at face value without even using their brains to question their validity properly, but that's the Internet for you, it's power to spread as much mis-information as real information.

[Stephen Gornick]

While I don't spend my time sweating the NSA,

Yes, I'm comfortable with the opinion that the NSA isn't trying to steal people's bitcoins.

I'm more worried about the rogue sysadmin at a mobile carrier that has access to sneak in a few lines of code into an official update, unbeknownst to all until the bitcoins are swiped.  Discussed here:

Can a mobile be protected against the “Linode problem”?
  http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/3383

[Luckybit]

Any of the many intercepted devices can exploit and steal your Bitcoins through the NSA and people who figure out the backdoors.

The NSA can rob any wallet whether its iphone or not. The iphone is just probably easier.