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December 31, 2013, 07:35:36 AM
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if you could travel back to 2008, knowing what you know now, what fundamental changes (if any) would you make to the bitcoin system before it gets released to the wild?
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December 31, 2013, 08:30:18 AM
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as i expect everyone else to say, i'd give myself some more  Grin

but yeah, possibly implement a way to prevent big mining pools from forming. the idea is decentralization after all.
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December 31, 2013, 09:09:08 AM
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1. Define its protocol then implement tests of it then implement code that satisfies the tests in a modern programming language by a software engineer and produce documentation.

2. Isolate consensus engine from wallet mining and UI at best implemented in separate processes.

3. have a trusted communication channel (bus) instead of RPC.

4. Have a voting algorithm for hard forks.

5. use an industry standard message serialization e.g. BSON.

6. use regular 2 complement integers with fixed 32 bit length in the script language.

7. have  SIGHASH_WITHINPUTVALUE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181734.0

this is just a quick list ... completing this list should be point 0.
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December 31, 2013, 09:10:47 AM
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This guy has an idea how to prevent mining pools; NSAcoin lol , a coin that DDOS you every time you find a block

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392535.0

But I suspect if anyone had implemented that in the past for bitcoin, BTC would have been history by now

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December 31, 2013, 09:14:28 AM
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I would contact Satoshi, then I will know who he, she or they are. Then make a movie about Bitcoin.  Grin
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December 31, 2013, 10:37:27 AM
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Faster transaction times, surely?

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December 31, 2013, 10:42:48 AM
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if you could travel back to 2008, knowing what you know now, what fundamental changes (if any) would you make to the bitcoin system before it gets released to the wild?

I would ask Satoshi not to use "coin" in the name.
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December 31, 2013, 10:48:28 AM
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If I could travel back in time, I will do something to eliminate the possibility of a 51% attack. It is not a concern now... but in future it can become one.
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December 31, 2013, 01:59:44 PM
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they need a way to split stocks, but with the coins.

turn 12 million coins into 120 million. 

no one wants to pay for a sandwich with .00000012 of a coin.

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December 31, 2013, 02:05:15 PM
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they need a way to split stocks, but with the coins.

turn 12 million coins into 120 million. 

no one wants to pay for a sandwich with .00000012 of a coin.

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Why not?  Huh

It's not like you have to count out a hundred satoshis by hand.

I really don't understand the fixation on the magnitude of amount used in payments. Most people will end up scanning QR codes in the end, right?

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December 31, 2013, 02:13:06 PM
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they need a way to split stocks, but with the coins.

turn 12 million coins into 120 million. 

no one wants to pay for a sandwich with .00000012 of a coin.

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Why not?  Huh

It's not like you have to count out a hundred satoshis by hand.

I really don't understand the fixation on the magnitude of amount used in payments. Most people will end up scanning QR codes in the end, right?

Because small numbers like that will confuse most people.
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December 31, 2013, 02:15:39 PM
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there's also just something psychologically that makes me not want to pay 10k per ONE coin.

I'd start buying litecoin before I'd pay 10k per a bitcoin.

Stocks split for a reason.

Then imagine 100k for a bitcoin. Who in their right mind would pay that?

For bitcoin to become mainstream it would have to increase in value to like 100k or even a million, cause their just aren't enough bitcoins for it to be mainstream for the whole world of 7 billion.
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December 31, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
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Scalability.

Bitcoin can never become mainstream while able to handle less than a thousand transactions per second. 
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December 31, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
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Scalability.

Bitcoin can never become mainstream while able to handle less than a thousand transactions per second. 

I think this is the main concern.  Merchants need instant verification if this is ever to go mainstream.  I don't know who much of a concern double spending (I know there's a better term for it!) the same address is right now, but the first we hear of it from a merchant there might be some negative press about it.
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December 31, 2013, 02:48:59 PM
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I guess the current limit is 7/sec. Is there any way to optimise this to 500/sec.

Is litecoin any better for this?

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December 31, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
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Then imagine 100k for a bitcoin. Who in their right mind would pay that?

Right, and who in their right mind would pay $39,000 for a kilogram of gold?!

Oh, wait, we don't have to buy it in kilogram units?  It can be bought in smaller portions and we can use different names for those portions?  But, it's still gold, right?  Ok, so mayby I can spend $39 and buy a gram of gold.  That works.

If bitcoin is $100,000 per bitcoin, then you will be exchanging and buying microbitcoin (µBTC). You might even use a reasonable nickname for the quantity.  Call it a "Mike", or a "microbit", or a "Mic".  You'll be paying $0.10 per microbitcoin.  That's a very reasonable number.
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December 31, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
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Nothing but the name. I would have called it Dogecoin.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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December 31, 2013, 05:03:29 PM
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they need a way to split stocks, but with the coins.

turn 12 million coins into 120 million. 

no one wants to pay for a sandwich with .00000012 of a coin.





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December 31, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
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I'd employ a different proof-of-work that doesn't provide much benefit to GPUs/ASICs,
but rather depends on many gigabytes of memory (just for generating, not for verifying)

Well, that's what I'm trying to design right now:)

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December 31, 2013, 05:40:17 PM
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I'd employ a different proof-of-work that doesn't provide much benefit to GPUs/ASICs,
but rather depends on many gigabytes of memory (just for generating, not for verifying)

Well, that's what I'm trying to design right now:)

-John

Where could we read more about ur design?
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