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December 31, 2013, 10:49:03 AM
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hi
i'm giving a lecture to investors, regulators, gvmt officials and such next week
wanted to title my lecture "from here to mainstream" and wanted to check the hive mind on what do YOU think are the greatest barriers make bitcoin truly mainstream 

thanks in advance Smiley
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December 31, 2013, 01:23:34 PM
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If someone will begin delivery of petroleum for cryptocurrency, then those currency will be mainstream instantly worldwide.
Or some producers of other fonts of energy goes to this decision.
Who will test to sell solar energy for crytocurrency, if he need ROI in USD/Euro?
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December 31, 2013, 01:50:09 PM
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My first though to this question is, what's mainstream?  I see it as a somewhat chicken and egg, it will gain acceptance and widespread adoption if and when there is acceptance and widespread adoption.  I'm not sure you can force it, it happens organically or it doesn't happen beyond a niche. 

Having said that, a number of technical and operational issues need to be resolved (i know they are being addressed) that will be discussed at length.  I see the biggest obstacle as easily transferring money in and out.  There needs to be robust, easy to use exchanges that can bridge the gap between reality (people get paid in £ and $ etc) to long term objectives.
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December 31, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
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My first though to this question is, what's mainstream?  I see it as a somewhat chicken and egg, it will gain acceptance and widespread adoption if and when there is acceptance and widespread adoption.  I'm not sure you can force it, it happens organically or it doesn't happen beyond a niche. 

Having said that, a number of technical and operational issues need to be resolved (i know they are being addressed) that will be discussed at length.  I see the biggest obstacle as easily transferring money in and out.  There needs to be robust, easy to use exchanges that can bridge the gap between reality (people get paid in £ and $ etc) to long term objectives.

Agreed, ease of use is crucial for making this type of currency popular with people. But also stability is important as well. A coin that fluctuates so much in price from day to day, often by + or - $100usd a day isn't very viable to businesses. Mostly just in speculation, but actually using the currency to purchase goods and services instead of simply investing is the key factor.
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December 31, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
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1. More certainty from the regulatory/legal process.
2. Publicizing how useful bitcoin is in avoiding authoritarian regimes capital controls.
3. Cyprus-like event asset protection.
4. Easy use for micro-payments.
5. Dark wallet/zero etc anonymity type application availability.
6. Credit card type ease of use for grandma. Ease of use is key. Swipe a card and it just works.

Not all are required, and there are probably many more, but each could be important.
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December 31, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
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Scalability.

If Bitcoin becomes any more mainstream than it is now, then mainstream investors will attempt to use it.

I mean, USE it, in its capacity as a financial network rather than as a speculative vehicle.

If this were to happen today, it would be disastrous.  Bitcoin is at this time nearly useless as a financial network, because it is still limited to less than a thousand transactions per second.

If mainstream investors attempt to use it as a financial network, this weakness will be exposed, and its value even as a speculative vehicle will collapse.
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December 31, 2013, 02:53:17 PM
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Simple: more merchants accepting it and more media coverage about it.

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December 31, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
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If you mean mainstream as in Mass population using it as a payment tool ,then I believe one thing will make it happen and that is the paying population need to be able to buy the exact same item cheaper by simply using bitcoin .

If online retailers or bick and mortar were to pass on some of the savings from not using paypal and credit cards and highlight this with a price comparison then the paying public would seek out places to obtain Bitcoin .
I truly believe until the public can see a clear reason to use it (the cheaper items ) them adoption buy consumers will struggle .

The main percentage that use bitcoin use it to store wealth just like gold and protect against fiat re-valuations by individual economies .

The current european/British legislation being implemented were depositor funds will be used to bail out banks should incentivise any depositors to think twice about holding cash in any bank .
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December 31, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
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Tell everyone you know or meet about it.
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December 31, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
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Tell everyone you know or meet about it.

Word up. So tell all the boys and girls
Tell your brother, your sister and your momma too
Were about to go down
And you know just what to do

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December 31, 2013, 04:29:12 PM
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Time.

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December 31, 2013, 09:28:34 PM
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If you mean mainstream as in Mass population using it as a payment tool ,then I believe one thing will make it happen and that is the paying population need to be able to buy the exact same item cheaper by simply using bitcoin .

If online retailers or bick and mortar were to pass on some of the savings from not using paypal and credit cards and highlight this with a price comparison then the paying public would seek out places to obtain Bitcoin .
I truly believe until the public can see a clear reason to use it (the cheaper items ) them adoption buy consumers will struggle .

The main percentage that use bitcoin use it to store wealth just like gold and protect against fiat re-valuations by individual economies .

The current european/British legislation being implemented were depositor funds will be used to bail out banks should incentivise any depositors to think twice about holding cash in any bank .

great points
thanks
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December 31, 2013, 09:53:02 PM
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it's already in the early stages of the mainstream. all over the media these days.. mass adoption is the next major step.
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December 31, 2013, 11:12:38 PM
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it's already in the early stages of the mainstream. all over the media these days.. mass adoption is the next major step.

There's an awful lot of other stuff all over the media that I certainly hope isn't about to see mass adopted... usage counts, media stories don't.
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December 31, 2013, 11:58:23 PM
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it's already in the early stages of the mainstream. all over the media these days.. mass adoption is the next major step.

There's an awful lot of other stuff all over the media that I certainly hope isn't about to see mass adopted... usage counts, media stories don't.

it's still mainstream in recognition, which is the first stage of mass adoption.
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January 01, 2014, 02:46:06 AM
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I found out about, and purchased my first Bitcoin in March or April of this year.  What has always held me back from purchasing more Bitcoins is that the wallets are too complex and I was afraid of having it hacked.

Cause, I aint proud - BTC: 1DyXSR8nsB56yhTUhR5HMKLzB6UpytiWnK
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January 01, 2014, 03:01:15 AM
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Accept the fact that you will have to work with existing financial systems and powers that be.

Enough of the deluded neckbeard tabloid conspiracy anti government bullshit. As if any of them can even take charge of their own household.
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January 01, 2014, 10:54:29 AM
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hi
i'm giving a lecture to investors, regulators, gvmt officials and such next week
wanted to title my lecture "from here to mainstream" and wanted to check the hive mind on what do YOU think are the greatest barriers make bitcoin truly mainstream 

thanks in advance Smiley

I guess everyone's definition of mainstream is different. But I'll go off the assumption that you mean something like a normal day to day thing people do/engage in. Debit/Credit cards are mainstream for example.

To answer your question I would argue some of the biggest road blocks in no particular order a are volatility, ease of use, safety, and adoption.  When I talk to people who don't have bitcoin and have no interest in it, it's usually one of these things they bring up.  They will point out its too much of a hassle for them (too difficult) , they dont want their money stolen (not safe enough for them), they dont want money that goes down or up constnatly (volatailty) , and there is no were currently that takes bitcoin  (adoption).


Once these roadblocks start getting overcome bitcoin will continue to go mainstream. It's my opinion that all of these roadblocks are solvable and are already steadily being worked on by various start ups and individuals. The only one that people can't really fix through innovation would the volataility issue but I would think/hope that starts to become less of an issue as the market expands.

Have fun with your lecture,  may I ask why you are giving a speech on bitcoin ?


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January 01, 2014, 10:58:22 AM
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I heard so much talk of the boomer generation for so long. I just wanted to say that. I have no idea.
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January 01, 2014, 01:21:39 PM
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hi
i'm giving a lecture to investors, regulators, gvmt officials and such next week
wanted to title my lecture "from here to mainstream" and wanted to check the hive mind on what do YOU think are the greatest barriers make bitcoin truly mainstream 

thanks in advance Smiley

I guess everyone's definition of mainstream is different. But I'll go off the assumption that you mean something like a normal day to day thing people do/engage in. Debit/Credit cards are mainstream for example.

To answer your question I would argue some of the biggest road blocks in no particular order a are volatility, ease of use, safety, and adoption.  When I talk to people who don't have bitcoin and have no interest in it, it's usually one of these things they bring up.  They will point out its too much of a hassle for them (too difficult) , they dont want their money stolen (not safe enough for them), they dont want money that goes down or up constnatly (volatailty) , and there is no were currently that takes bitcoin  (adoption).


Once these roadblocks start getting overcome bitcoin will continue to go mainstream. It's my opinion that all of these roadblocks are solvable and are already steadily being worked on by various start ups and individuals. The only one that people can't really fix through innovation would the volataility issue but I would think/hope that starts to become less of an issue as the market expands.

Have fun with your lecture,  may I ask why you are giving a speech on bitcoin ?



the lecture is one of few in this event.
i'm part of the board of the local bitcoin association, and i've done a few things in the space (including a startup just now)
thanks for the feedback
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