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August 30, 2011, 11:40:15 AM
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This is sick shit.
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August 30, 2011, 11:40:29 AM
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Anyway.. nothing to stop some other group of Bitcoiners forming a more focused Conference arrangement to compete with the way OnlyOneTV does things.

agreed.  Leave BitCon to OnlyOneTV and Pattaya and let's all start up some regional meet-ups.  BitConf Southwest in Austin TX would be nice, maybe during SXSW when lots of people and media are in Austin from out of town anyway

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August 30, 2011, 12:02:53 PM
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Again, all this aside-- where's the proof he's a pedo?

There's no positive proof thus far, it's just ambiguous writing and his insistence on Pattaya as the location, with people putting 2 and 2 together on their own. I try not to throw around the term "pedo", because it's a label that sticks really badly.

The pedo thing isn't the only accusation though, and the others have damning evidence, but you apparently don't see anything wrong with being a rape apologist either so I don't expect you to see that.

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August 30, 2011, 12:16:03 PM
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The pedo thing isn't the only accusation though, and the others have damning evidence, but you apparently don't see anything wrong with being a rape apologist either so I don't expect you to see that.

Rape apologist. Big strike against Bruce.
Endorsed MyBitcoin and continued doing so even after problems were evident. Big strike against Bruce.
Lost at least 25,000 bitcoins that were either "his" or "under his control", it's hard to tell, he's changed the story to suit the question. Two big strikes against Bruce.
Bashed the forum in general when people weren't agreeing with him and didn't want what he wanted. Small strike against Bruce. Because to be completely fair, many of the people disagreeing weren't being above board, and there was plenty of probable slander being tossed at that point.
Has a show that's slim on fact and heavy on hype. Up Up Up! I'm hoping my bitcoins go up up up, sure. But we have to have some realistic expectations, and giving unrealistic expectations to viewers is not doing the currency a good service. Big strike against Bruce.
Doesn't know how a volume control works. Big strike against Bruce. (Seriously, were you able to understand any one complete sentence in the show where he interviewed MagicalTux after the Mt.Gox hack? I don't mean the phone line, I mean Bruce himself...)
Tries to make himself the most visible production but couldn't do it with the camera's demo mode off. What in the fuck?

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August 30, 2011, 12:26:54 PM
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I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.
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August 30, 2011, 12:33:15 PM
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I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.

Speak for yourself.

I'm gay. I don't condemn him for being gay. I don't condemn anyone else for being straight. Or gay. Or bi.

I also don't condemn him for anything he hasn't been proven to have done.

If you think you're going to be purging Bitcoin of gay users, though, think again. Every single friend I have gotten into Bitcoin is as homosexual as I am. Well, unless you count the one who's bisexual.

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August 30, 2011, 12:34:38 PM
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Again, all this aside-- where's the proof he's a pedo?

There's no positive proof thus far, it's just ambiguous writing and his insistence on Pattaya as the location, with people putting 2 and 2 together on their own. I try not to throw around the term "pedo", because it's a label that sticks really badly.

The pedo thing isn't the only accusation though, and the others have damning evidence, but you apparently don't see anything wrong with being a rape apologist either so I don't expect you to see that.

It seems that they gay people http://www.boyztown-pattaya.com/ call their men "boys" the same way "we" (I assume that you are not gay, which could be totally wrong) call our women "girl". But if you think calling a man "boy" is some evidence, one can only hope that the next time you call your favorite milf "girl" some swat team will jump through the window and arrests you for being a "pedo".</kidding>

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August 30, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
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I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.

Speak for yourself.

I'm gay. I don't condemn him for being gay. I don't condemn anyone else for being straight. Or gay. Or bi.

I also don't condemn him for anything he hasn't been proven to have done.

If you think you're going to be purging Bitcoin of gay users, though, think again. Every single friend I have gotten into Bitcoin is as homosexual as I am. Well, unless you count the one who's bisexual.

And I don't care if you or Bruce are gay. But the point's been made quite well that Bruce's choice of locations seems designed to satisfy his prurient interests as much as to promote bitcoin. I don't want him to do this.
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August 30, 2011, 12:50:19 PM
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I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.

Speak for yourself.

I'm gay. I don't condemn him for being gay. I don't condemn anyone else for being straight. Or gay. Or bi.

I also don't condemn him for anything he hasn't been proven to have done.

If you think you're going to be purging Bitcoin of gay users, though, think again. Every single friend I have gotten into Bitcoin is as homosexual as I am. Well, unless you count the one who's bisexual.

And I don't care if you or Bruce are gay. But the point's been made quite well that Bruce's choice of locations seems designed to satisfy his prurient interests as much as to promote bitcoin. I don't want him to do this.

Then don't go.  But leave it at that.

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August 30, 2011, 12:52:57 PM
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It seems that they gay people http://www.boyztown-pattaya.com/ call their men "boys" the same way "we" (I assume that you are not gay, which could be totally wrong) call our women "girl". But if you think calling a man "boy" is some evidence, one can only hope that the next time you call your favorite milf "girl" some swat team will jump through the window and arrests you for being a "pedo".</kidding>

What if I were specifically referring to virgin girls... virgin girls in the child sex capitol of the world? What if I could easily get cheap adult prostitutes in literally any other city in Thailand, but I insisted on the child sex capitol of the world for my business conference and refused to entertain any other suggestions? Then I freaked out and ran away when people started questioning my motives. And then started frantically deleting my Internet history when curious people started digging up info on the subject.

It's not conclusive proof, but holy shit it looks bad. Either this is the way it is and Bruce is a creep, or it's a big misunderstanding and Bruce merely REALLY REALLY looks like a creep. Not to mention his downright sickening views on rape. He managed to be thoroughly offensive to both genders with that post.  Any way you slice it, it looks really bad for Bitcoins.

Everyone has known Bruce was gay forever. Nobody gave a shit. This isn't about Bruce being gay. It's about Bruce being a really shitty person.
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August 30, 2011, 01:00:41 PM
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I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.

You think the situation would be any better if he were straight?
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August 30, 2011, 01:07:43 PM
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I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.

Bruce being gay or his choice of sexual partner is not at issue here whatsoever. What is at issue is that he's a disgusting moron who is leading Bitcoin into the abyss by using it to further his sexual proclivities under the guise of holding "conferences" that are nothing more than a world tour of his favorite sex houses. And his continued and hard-headed insistence that Pattaya doesn't have a child sex problem and that he won't entertain any notions of NOT having it there despite the uproar in the community is very disturbing.

All of the other accusations are people merely putting two and two together. Whether they are correct remains to be seen, as there is no hard evidence.
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August 30, 2011, 01:09:28 PM
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This isn't about Bruce being gay. It's about Bruce being a really shitty person.

This is about Bruce damaging bitcoin's reputation with his personal life.
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August 30, 2011, 01:19:48 PM
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This isn't about Bruce being gay. It's about Bruce being a really shitty person.

This is about Bruce damaging bitcoin's reputation with his personal life.

Right. If he hadn't pushed Pattaya so hard for personal reasons (that he tried to gloss over with a thin veneer of flimsy professional reasons), nobody would have ever thought to look for all of that dirt in the first place.

Even if you take the underage aspect out of the equation entirely, he was still trying to do something that had the potential to be very damaging to Bitcoin's reputation, and he was doing it for entirely personal and selfish reasons that he deliberately misrepresented.
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August 30, 2011, 01:36:11 PM
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Shortly before this Pattaya thing Bruce associated bitcoin with his salacious, gay lifestyle by inviting bitcoin enthusiasts to a gay hotel in Spain. See this thread.
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August 30, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
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Shortly before this Pattaya thing Bruce associated bitcoin with his salacious, gay lifestyle by inviting bitcoin enthusiasts to a gay hotel in Spain. See this thread.

That thread is retarded and so are you, hth. 

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August 30, 2011, 01:55:06 PM
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Shortly before this Pattaya thing Bruce associated bitcoin with his salacious, gay lifestyle by inviting bitcoin enthusiasts to a gay hotel in Spain. See this thread.

shut up, seriously
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August 30, 2011, 02:00:08 PM
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Shortly before this Pattaya thing Bruce associated bitcoin with his salacious, gay lifestyle by inviting bitcoin enthusiasts to a gay hotel in Spain. See this thread.

Yeah that guy is a goddamn kook. Go away.
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August 30, 2011, 02:05:45 PM
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Two interesting emails I received today...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40258.0
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August 30, 2011, 02:08:08 PM
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Two interesting emails I received today...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40258.0


Bruce, trying to spin this into a conspiracy isn't helping your case at all
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