Intellectual laziness.

[TheFootMan]

I've given a number of 'tech friends' an introduction to bitcoin, and pointers to how they could proceed learning about it (whitepaper, wiki-article, subreddit, this forum etc.)

Yes I see everyone so far has not taken the time to do their research, and because of my socalled pro-bitcoin standpoint, some of them has even felt the need to feed me negative articles about bitcoin once they find it.

These articles are more often than not written by journalists who do not understand bitcoin, and they're about issues that's not really an issue with the bitcoin protocol, but an issue with end user security or bitcoin services.

I've stopped being nice to people, and I just plainly tell them about my credentials and briefly let them know why I believe bitcoin will succeed.

If people just want to make the whole bitcoin discussion into a pissing contest, there's no point to it, and my time is wasted, and thus I do not enter those pissing contests.

They way it works, like with everything else, if you want to understand something you need to study it. Maybe a person do not have the required knowledge base to understand something, and that's a fair point, but then that person need to realize that and not bullshit me by feeding me links to stupid bitcoin articles. "Look, this bitcoin thing you're advocating really has some serious problems.. look at these links! *sigh*"

If somebody told me that something had potential or that it was great, or it was a great opportunity, the very least thing I would do would be to investigate and decide for myself whether there was any point to spending further time on it or not.

God, i despise intellectual laziness, and boy does people do get upset when they're told they're intellectually lazy, so I try to avoid doing that - but I simply cut discussions short when the other party obviously is not interested in learning, but only in giving uneducated negative input.

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[Lethn]

I've been on the exact same receiving end with a lot of family members I've talked about Bitcoin with, only a few people who I know really well have either just said they don't know/care very much or actually gone and researched it a bit beyond the usual media hysteria. Nevermind something like Bitcoin or anything to do with computers, you see it often in politics and science as well and often these ignorant people tend to band together to convince each other of how right they are rather than just finding out the truth of everything.

I don't think it's laziness, because if it was they wouldn't even bother forming an opinion on it, it's more like arrogance to me and the best ones I've seen are the people who think because they've gone to university etc. their opinion automatically matters more than someone else despite it being completely wrong.

[beetcoin]

if they don't want to get bitcoins, that is their right. why do you care? if bitcoin lifts off the planet, then you can just shove it in their faces.

it's probably not them being lazy. it's just them not seeing any value in bitcoin. that's their opinion and right.

[hilariousandco]

People are generally idiots. Doesn't matter if they don't listen to you now; hopefully when BTC goes mainstream and is worth multiples of what it was you can then fell pretty smug.

[Lethn]

if they don't want to get bitcoins, that is their right. why do you care? if bitcoin lifts off the planet, then you can just shove it in their faces.

That's the attitude I'm pretty much taking, but I can understand OP's frustration, it is a bit depressing, but I'll have the last laugh when I'm sitting on a stockpile of gold bullion at the end of it all.

[hilariousandco]

if they don't want to get bitcoins, that is their right. why do you care? if bitcoin lifts off the planet, then you can just shove it in their faces.

That's the attitude I'm pretty much taking, but I can understand OP's frustration, it is a bit depressing, but I'll have the last laugh when I'm sitting on a stockpile of gold bullion at the end of it all.

My bro thought I was silly for buying Bitcoin at £70. Not so much now as he wants in.

[Haidang1796]

it's their lost if they dont use BTC. We know it, we use it, that's all we need.

[beetcoin]

if they don't want to get bitcoins, that is their right. why do you care? if bitcoin lifts off the planet, then you can just shove it in their faces.

That's the attitude I'm pretty much taking, but I can understand OP's frustration, it is a bit depressing, but I'll have the last laugh when I'm sitting on a stockpile of gold bullion at the end of it all.

My bro thought I was silly for buying Bitcoin at £70. Not so much now as he wants in.

you gotta get some BTC tinted glasses, a silk road, two prostitutes for each arm.. and bring them into your room, telling him he missed out on a lucrative opportunity.

[hilariousandco]

if they don't want to get bitcoins, that is their right. why do you care? if bitcoin lifts off the planet, then you can just shove it in their faces.

That's the attitude I'm pretty much taking, but I can understand OP's frustration, it is a bit depressing, but I'll have the last laugh when I'm sitting on a stockpile of gold bullion at the end of it all.

My bro thought I was silly for buying Bitcoin at £70. Not so much now as he wants in.

you gotta get some BTC tinted glasses, a silk road, two prostitutes for each arm.. and bring them into your room, telling him he missed out on a lucrative opportunity.

Or I'll do none of this and remain smug whilst I continue hodling.

[TheFootMan]

I have no need or desire to appear smug. And neither did I absolutely want them to buy bitcoins, although I knew they would profit from it.

First of all I wanted them to know about this groundbreaking technology, but I seem to have overestimated my audience. Perhaps I should just get new friends, someone that have actual goals in their lives and that have vision.

Too many people lack vision.

[hilariousandco]

I have no need or desire to appear smug. And neither did I absolutely want them to buy bitcoins, although I knew they would profit from it.

First of all I wanted them to know about this groundbreaking technology, but I seem to have overestimated my audience. Perhaps I should just get new friends, someone that have actual goals in their lives and that have vision.

Too many people lack vision.

Many have ambition but talent they haven't. Bitcoin can be a groundbreaking technology that they can be a part of and also make a bit of money off it. If they don't understand the benefits and why it's so great and revolutionary, then more fool them.

[TheFootMan]

I have no need or desire to appear smug. And neither did I absolutely want them to buy bitcoins, although I knew they would profit from it.

First of all I wanted them to know about this groundbreaking technology, but I seem to have overestimated my audience. Perhaps I should just get new friends, someone that have actual goals in their lives and that have vision.

Too many people lack vision.

Many have ambition but talent they haven't. Bitcoin can be a groundbreaking technology that they can be a part of and also make a bit of money off it. If they don't understand the benefits and why it's so great and revolutionary, then more fool them.

Yes, I think the same way. But some people are only concerned about what they do that day, and what they like or dislike that day, and have no plans or visions for where they or their country or the world for that matter will be in say 5 years.

I want to live, learn, and be successful - I do not want to rot away discussing the results of the latest soccer match.

[arcke]

People dont want to be told theres something out there thats better than they have now and they dont understand it. You know what happened to Bruno, Galilei and Tesla? Better leave them alone, they will pick it up once they cant ignore it anymore.

[Corazon79]

The learning curve is just too steep at this point.

Obviously we know that Bitcoin isn't too much more difficult to set up, than something like PayPal. But it has the image of being a lot more complicated. That really doesn't help.

I'm hoping that the likes of PayPal will panic and up their fees, to try to recoup some revenue. That should persuade more people to investigate the alternatives and they will surely end up opting for Bitcoin over the others.

[hilariousandco]

I have no need or desire to appear smug. And neither did I absolutely want them to buy bitcoins, although I knew they would profit from it.

First of all I wanted them to know about this groundbreaking technology, but I seem to have overestimated my audience. Perhaps I should just get new friends, someone that have actual goals in their lives and that have vision.

Too many people lack vision.

Many have ambition but talent they haven't. Bitcoin can be a groundbreaking technology that they can be a part of and also make a bit of money off it. If they don't understand the benefits and why it's so great and revolutionary, then more fool them.

Yes, I think the same way. But some people are only concerned about what they do that day, and what they like or dislike that day, and have no plans or visions for where they or their country or the world for that matter will be in say 5 years.

I want to live, learn, and be successful - I do not want to rot away discussing the results of the latest soccer match.

That ambition and drive is good. Be the change you wish to see in the world Gandhi said. That being said, I still enjoy football, but I also find this highly amusing and an on point parody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MusyO7J2inM

[guybrushthreepwood]

The learning curve is just too steep at this point.

Obviously we know that Bitcoin isn't too much more difficult to set up, than something like PayPal. But it has the image of being a lot more complicated. That really doesn't help.

I'm hoping that the likes of PayPal will panic and up their fees, to try to recoup some revenue. That should persuade more people to investigate the alternatives and they will surely end up opting for Bitcoin over the others.

Panic an up their fees? Surely they would lower them in that situation? I hope Bitcoin properly rapes Paypal.

[TheFootMan]

I have no need or desire to appear smug. And neither did I absolutely want them to buy bitcoins, although I knew they would profit from it.

First of all I wanted them to know about this groundbreaking technology, but I seem to have overestimated my audience. Perhaps I should just get new friends, someone that have actual goals in their lives and that have vision.

Too many people lack vision.

Many have ambition but talent they haven't. Bitcoin can be a groundbreaking technology that they can be a part of and also make a bit of money off it. If they don't understand the benefits and why it's so great and revolutionary, then more fool them.

Yes, I think the same way. But some people are only concerned about what they do that day, and what they like or dislike that day, and have no plans or visions for where they or their country or the world for that matter will be in say 5 years.

I want to live, learn, and be successful - I do not want to rot away discussing the results of the latest soccer match.

That ambition and drive is good. Be the change you wish to see in the world Gandhi said. That being said, I still enjoy football, but I also find this highly amusing and an on point parody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MusyO7J2inM

Some amusement and fun is good to have. Balance in life is important. But first you need to earn it.


Having some perspective in life is important.

I love creative visionary people, I don't like much people who's only concerned with everyday life and have no thought about society, politics, economics and big world matters.

As a matter of fact, bitcoin made me start to learn even more about the world around me, to the point where I just read too much horrible stuff. I'm trying to turn that around now, becoming more optimistic and targeted in my actions. After all, there's a lot of bad stuff happening in the world, and a lot of bad stuff have happened, and there's a lot of corruption etc. But if I let the knowledge of all this drag me down, I'm only wrecking my own life.

So it is all about setting goals, making an action plan, having daily todo lists and just acting in general, and not just dreaming, then life goes by and nothing happens.

Seeing as most of my friends have mediocre lives, I want something more, something better, and I already finished a lenghty education, and will plow my way through life now. And it will and have not been plain sailing, but the way to go about it is to never give up, there will always be obstacles, some bigger than others. And it is certainly not only about the money. But it is about the freedom that the money will create. The ability to invest, purchase property, travel, to purchase services, like cooking, massage etc. All in all, to have a good and great life.

Most people are where the daily chore of expenses and daily problems are bugging them down. I do not want to be there. I want to be at the point where money is no concern. And what's happening on the outside, is a reflection on what's happening on the inside. And I have issues and 'situations' I need to work on. I chose to use the word 'situation' rather than 'problem' because problem is such an awful word.

And to learn, grow and experience I read litterature from the very best in the field. I already have good self dicipline, and I know I will succeed. And that's what you need. You can start with two empty hands and build up a great life when you do not have self limiting beliefs.

I will start to rather get in touch with people who share this attitude and have a great desire to create a good life for themselves than mediocre friends who have no ambition, no drive, and will never go anywhere in life.

It will be hard, but the common denominator of any successful person is that he or she has dicipline and works hard to achieve their goals. It's not because I want to beat others, or show others - but because I want to create the best life I possibly can for myself and my family. And when the time comes, I would be happy to help other less fortunate people, like a lot of affluent people in todays world do (Think Linda & Bill Gates Fundation).

If you shot for the moon, even if you miss, you'll end up among the stars!

[Haidang1796]

this is the first time I've seen a person with such dedication and belief in bitcoin. good for you