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September 01, 2012, 03:27:44 AM
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Bitjack21.com is offline.  Has it been offline for a while?

It's still online. Try it without the www.

It was down, but now it is back.  It may have only been down for a few mins or it may have been something with my connection.  All other sites were working and when it was down it was down with and without the www.

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September 02, 2012, 12:30:38 AM
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give him a bit of time, as I said, he could be short of coins or busy at the moment.

There's a very interesting and informative post here:
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87656.msg1145478#msg1145478
about how a gambling site can make sure that they have an almost zero chance of ever running out of coins to pay winners out with.

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September 03, 2012, 02:40:51 AM
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Well it's been 24rhs since the "confirmation" e-mail still no payment. *double checks* again not in my wallet and not in bitjack21 account either. I'd say this is a lost cause.

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September 04, 2012, 08:33:11 PM
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SURPRISE!! I decided to log on to the site today and make another withdrawl, I was able to get 3 out before the dreaded "pending transaction" screen started rearing its ugly head.  The scam accusation still stands until all pending withdrawls are paid out, however.
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September 04, 2012, 09:34:58 PM
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Players have recently won a lot more then what the server has available, if a withdraw does not go through try a smaller amount or wait a week and try again.

Grow your bankroll then.  I have already waited a week and a half!!!! You owe me over 133btc, not to mention today's withdrawls! Get your shit together man!
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September 04, 2012, 11:30:58 PM
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Players have recently won a lot more then what the server has available, if a withdraw does not go through try a smaller amount or wait a week and try again.

Grow your bankroll then.  I have already waited a week and a half!!!! You owe me over 133btc, not to mention today's withdrawls! Get your shit together man!

This!

Don't accept bets you can't afford to lose.  If you don't have the bankroll to offer blackjack at the stakes you offer, reduce the maximum bet to a level you can afford.  It's not right to gamble with money you don't have.

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September 05, 2012, 02:21:26 AM
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Yay! I saw this thread and decided to play a bit Smiley

Put in 3 BTC

Now requested 13 BTC withdrawl!!!

=D

Good for the house that the maximum bet is 1 BTC, otherwise I would get more BTC Tongue (I usually stop after I win some maximum bets where I am betting 10% of my bankroll... So if the maximum bet was 10 BTC I would take out about 110 or 120 BTC Tongue)

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September 05, 2012, 04:01:12 AM
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there is no reason to be rude or accusatory about it

Jumping on the guy and slandering him does nobody good and might scare off betters

I don't know if you were replying to me or not.  I don't mean to be rude, but stand by what I wrote.

I guess you meant libelling him (slander is spoken, not written), and libel involves making false statements.  It's not libellous to say "this casino is too slow to pay its debts" if that is indeed the case.

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September 05, 2012, 12:11:55 PM
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Isn't trying to win more money when there's a lack of money counter-productive?

Andrew has been starting to pay out! Confidence somewhat restored!
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September 05, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
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Andrew only had a bad run...

But he still have the house edge.

If you play blackjack for many years, probably you will end losing more than winning, even if you have perfect strategy for each particular rule you know.

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September 05, 2012, 01:16:31 PM
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there is no reason to be rude or accusatory about it

Jumping on the guy and slandering him does nobody good and might scare off betters

I don't know if you were replying to me or not.  I don't mean to be rude, but stand by what I wrote.

I guess you meant libelling him (slander is spoken, not written), and libel involves making false statements.  It's not libellous to say "this casino is too slow to pay its debts" if that is indeed the case.

The key here is slow to pay. He is paying out. You just have to be really really patient at the moment, it appears that he ran the bankroll ship into a giant rock, but he's rebuilding.  Oh well, hope he learned a lesson and we can all move on.
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September 05, 2012, 02:31:36 PM
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Isn't trying to win more money when there's a lack of money counter-productive?

Andrew has been starting to pay out! Confidence somewhat restored!
Really? Cause even with my paltry amount I haven't seen jack.

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September 05, 2012, 02:55:31 PM
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Isn't trying to win more money when there's a lack of money counter-productive?

Andrew has been starting to pay out! Confidence somewhat restored!
Really? Cause even with my paltry amount I haven't seen jack.

Where would you like the .29 sent? Like I said before, if I get paid and you don't, I'll personally pay out the .29 to you.
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September 05, 2012, 04:55:40 PM
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Well I wouldn't go giving out all your coins yet. After all you haven't gotten them all of your due amount have you?
Honestly I wasn't going to hold you to that but if your giving away your coins who am I to stop you? 1PN4ePKnoE7xfXCiQ2vYiCaBdgxmQV9kJH

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September 05, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
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Andrew has been starting to pay out! Confidence somewhat restored!
Really? Cause even with my paltry amount I haven't seen jack.

I expect he's paying out in the same order the withdrawals were requested.  If DOH! requested his hundreds of won coins before you requested your .29, you'll be waiting until DOH!'s request is filled.  Just guessing.

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September 05, 2012, 07:51:50 PM
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Andrew has been starting to pay out! Confidence somewhat restored!
Really? Cause even with my paltry amount I haven't seen jack.

I expect he's paying out in the same order the withdrawals were requested.  If DOH! requested his hundreds of won coins before you requested your .29, you'll be waiting until DOH!'s request is filled.  Just guessing.

Andrew isn't paying out anything at all.... It's getting paid from the site, I still have 340 btc in balance there.
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September 06, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
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Andrew has been starting to pay out!

Andrew isn't paying out anything at all.

Those two quote seem to contradict each other?

Are you saying that Andrew isn't paying out, but his site is?

Or are you saying that he's paying out previous winners using deposits from new players, ponzi style?

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September 06, 2012, 04:13:56 PM
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Andrew has been starting to pay out!

Andrew isn't paying out anything at all.

Those two quote seem to contradict each other?

Are you saying that Andrew isn't paying out, but his site is?

Or are you saying that he's paying out previous winners using deposits from new players, ponzi style?

His site is paying.... Can't be sure but it seems to be ponzi style.  What makes me wonder is that when speeder said he deposited 3 btc and tried unsuccessfully to withdraw 13, I was able to withdraw 3 btc successfully.  Hmmmmm...... I kind of feel bad about withdrawing those coins, but the beast of burden is on the site operator, not the depositor. Seeing how my 133btc worth of withdrawls are still unpaid and how I still have over 300btc worth of winnings stuck in my account there, I don't care where it comes from as long as it gets paid.  Does that make me a bad person? 
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September 06, 2012, 08:13:56 PM
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I think blackjack against bitcoiners is bad idea, lots of bitcoiners have at least some basic understand of cryptography, this means some very good understanding of math, and blackjack is basically a game of math...

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September 06, 2012, 08:39:07 PM
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I think blackjack against bitcoiners is bad idea, lots of bitcoiners have at least some basic understand of cryptography, this means some very good understanding of math, and blackjack is basically a game of math...

Why do you play then? The math works out to be NOT in the gambler's favor. Funny thing, he is mocking me by blasting "Players have had winning streaks with over 300 BTC of winnings" right on the front page, but he won't pay out a damn satoshi out of his own pocket.  Oh well, keep those deposits up people! I can't make any withdrawls unless you deposit! LOL.
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