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Question: Of which political philosophy do you most closely identify with?
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January 04, 2014, 11:48:11 PM
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What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

Free thought in a dictatorship is always extreme Smiley.

Such odd times we live in where "stop waving that gun at me" is an extremist line Tongue

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January 05, 2014, 12:00:35 AM
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What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

they have a one-size-fits-all approach. from my experience, they think the world would be almost utopian if we removed government. it's as simple as that. then again, maybe i am conflating anarchism with libertarianism.

i had a libertarian/anarchist tell me that the biggest tragedy in the dorner case was all the money that the LAPD had to spend to track him down... not the fact that innocent people were murdered.
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January 05, 2014, 12:07:42 AM
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What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

You can be independent, have independent thought and NOT be a Libertarian...
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January 05, 2014, 12:11:33 AM
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What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

You can be independent, have independent thought and NOT be a Libertarian...

Example?

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January 05, 2014, 12:13:42 AM
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Not part of any ideology, not conservative (WTF?)
Please add anarchist and scientologist
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January 05, 2014, 12:14:40 AM
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Not part of any ideology, not conservative (WTF?)
Please add anarchist and scientologist

Scientologist?

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January 05, 2014, 12:22:54 AM
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What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

they have a one-size-fits-all approach. from my experience, they think the world would be almost utopian if we removed government. it's as simple as that. then again, maybe i am conflating anarchism with libertarianism.

How about you discuss the content of libertarianism, rather than simply classifying it as "one size fits all" as if that's a disproof.

An anarchist argument is quite simple:
In every sphere of activity, giving some group the authority to take the money of another group and enforce their will on them will likely have bad consequences. I say "likely" because I'm open to the possibility that certain laws may do some good. However, I also recognize that the types of laws that a real government will provide aren't necessarily the good ones--in other words, there's no plausible way to construct a government such that it only does good things.

Is that "one size fits all"? Sure, in some respects. But I can equally argue that a statist position imposes "one size fits all" rules on its citizens. So let's argue content, rather than exchanging stupid platitudes.
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January 05, 2014, 12:25:56 AM
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What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

they have a one-size-fits-all approach. from my experience, they think the world would be almost utopian if we removed government. it's as simple as that. then again, maybe i am conflating anarchism with libertarianism.

I've never met anyone that thinks Libertarianism is some kind of attempt to create Utopia. I'd think anyone who thought this Utopia could even happen would be a fool and incredibly naive.

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January 05, 2014, 06:00:59 AM
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idea: keep undocumented immigrants, deport liberals.  problem solved!
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January 07, 2014, 03:17:10 PM
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Social libertarian, of course. I support right to bear arms, right to use any illicit substance we want without threat of prison time, basically maximal individual freedom. Only governments and corporations need regulation, they need regulation because of their built in ability for the people running them to distance themselves from the responsibility of their actions.... and because we don't want all our national parks being plundered by any corporation that sees the potential for profit... some things just need regulation. Smiley
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January 10, 2014, 03:18:04 AM
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I believe in a republic whose job is only to protect my liberty and stay away from everything else like my guns, my privecy, my money (they can't print money or have a central bank) my speech, my association, my body (if I want to inject drugs it's my body my republic). So what does that make me a republican?

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January 10, 2014, 08:05:35 AM
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we know it won't be a utopia. we also know that in the grand scheme of things, more hurt than help will be caused by massive state power. the system never stays where it's at, just keeps slowly creepin. and this is why there should be absolutely no gun control period, because their 10 round capacity limit would quickly work it's way down to 6 and the proposed stricter background checks would have a progressively increasing tax attached to them.
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