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January 03, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
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What do you think ?

According to the forum it seems the best asic miner is the incoming Neptune from KnC Miner.
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January 03, 2014, 06:34:15 PM
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I agree with your assessment.
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January 03, 2014, 08:00:18 PM
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Ignoring the electrical costs, I think the KNC Neptune looks like it'll be in the same ballpark of "performance per dollar", at $3.33/GHash, as some of the other Q1/Q2 2014 offerings from others, such as the Terraminer IV, and the BA Prospero X1/X2 units, among others. I'd be curious to see if it actually launches with a higher hashing rate than advertised currently.

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January 03, 2014, 09:04:59 PM
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Are KNC products, such as Neptune, only able to mine BTC?
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January 03, 2014, 09:13:12 PM
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Nops u can mine other altcoins based on sha256

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January 03, 2014, 11:51:38 PM
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No scrypt asic miner, yet. It may or may not come, that's another thing. You can mine BTC, all merged coins, PPC and TRC and all other copies of BTC with SHA256

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January 03, 2014, 11:57:02 PM
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Does it make economic sense to buy these miners at today's prices or are you buying them, mining and hoping the price goes up?
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January 04, 2014, 02:17:57 AM
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What do you think ?

According to the forum it seems the best asic miner is the incoming Neptune from KnC Miner.

The best ASIC miner is the one you can get your hands on today and actually calculate ROI.
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January 04, 2014, 11:04:53 PM
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What do you think ?

According to the forum it seems the best asic miner is the incoming Neptune from KnC Miner.

The best ASIC miner is the one you can get your hands on today and actually calculate ROI.

This, exactly.
If you can get your hands on a miner that can ROI even slightly, I would do it, because most calculators tend to overestimate network growth.
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January 05, 2014, 03:49:29 AM
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What do you think ?

According to the forum it seems the best asic miner is the incoming Neptune from KnC Miner.

The best ASIC miner is the one you can get your hands on today and actually calculate ROI.

This, exactly.
If you can get your hands on a miner that can ROI even slightly, I would do it, because most calculators tend to overestimate network growth.

Let's face it. Network hashing "calculators" are guess machines, not actual calculators. Don't trust them, whether over or underestimate.
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January 06, 2014, 04:20:55 AM
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The best ASIC miner that will give you the best return on the investment is the one that is mining on your desk right now, or lands on your doorstep in a few days.

Forget pre-orders from any company that has not done tape-out yet.

It it's not hashing right now (or within a few days), you're already losing money on the deal.

Why wait when you could be hashing? Any 55nm or 65 nm miner will be good until 17 billion and change difficulty. You don't need 28 nm technology to make money, right now.
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January 06, 2014, 09:24:07 AM
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So which asic miner available as of now would you advise ?
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January 06, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
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So which asic miner available as of now would you advise ?

Take a look at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ bottom of the page for a list of companies selling bitcoin ASIC miners and availability. Butterfly Labs has a 50 GH/s Bitcoin Miner in stock now: https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/50-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html
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January 06, 2014, 07:06:39 PM
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So which asic miner available as of now would you advise ?

Take a look at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ bottom of the page for a list of companies selling bitcoin ASIC miners and availability. Butterfly Labs has a 50 GH/s Bitcoin Miner in stock now: https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/50-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

The best deal on a miner that ships immediately is a Bitmain Antminer. Antminers are far superior, and cost lest per GH than the old, power inefficient, 65nm crap BFL is selling.

The group buy link is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392860.0
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January 06, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
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So which asic miner available as of now would you advise ?

Take a look at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ bottom of the page for a list of companies selling bitcoin ASIC miners and availability. Butterfly Labs has a 50 GH/s Bitcoin Miner in stock now: https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/50-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

The best deal on a miner that ships immediately is a Bitmain Antminer. Antminers are far superior, and cost lest per GH than the old, power inefficient, 65nm crap BFL is selling.

The group buy link is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392860.0

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January 07, 2014, 02:28:38 AM
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So which asic miner available as of now would you advise ?

Take a look at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ bottom of the page for a list of companies selling bitcoin ASIC miners and availability. Butterfly Labs has a 50 GH/s Bitcoin Miner in stock now: https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/50-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

The best deal on a miner that ships immediately is a Bitmain Antminer. Antminers are far superior, and cost lest per GH than the old, power inefficient, 65nm crap BFL is selling.

The group buy link is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392860.0

+1, what Kendog said.

After a little fiddling, you will be very happy.
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January 07, 2014, 02:32:13 AM
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So which asic miner available as of now would you advise ?

Take a look at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ bottom of the page for a list of companies selling bitcoin ASIC miners and availability. Butterfly Labs has a 50 GH/s Bitcoin Miner in stock now: https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/50-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

The best deal on a miner that ships immediately is a Bitmain Antminer. Antminers are far superior, and cost lest per GH than the old, power inefficient, 65nm crap BFL is selling.

The group buy link is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392860.0

+1, what Kendog said.

After a little fiddling, you will be very happy.


$17 / Gh/s ?  If losing money makes you happy, just send your BTC to me.
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January 07, 2014, 02:39:34 AM
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So, presuming that none of the 2 Th/s machines of today will give a ROI because you didn't jump on them fast enough, what hardware will be coming down the pipeline next that will do a ROI?

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January 07, 2014, 03:57:40 AM
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So, presuming that none of the 2 Th/s machines of today will give a ROI because you didn't jump on them fast enough, what hardware will be coming down the pipeline next that will do a ROI?

There are so possibilities right now only one or two moves ahead, I'm not sure how anyone can look 4 or 5 moves ahead at this point like you're asking. There's so much flux right now that everything is capable of changing very quickly.
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January 07, 2014, 05:00:43 PM
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With all the rapid changes in ASIC mining capacity and mining difficulty, is mining SHA-256 coins a speculative venture? In other words, you mine and hope the coins rise in value?

I am new and probably ignorant of the facts, so maybe that is how mining has always been.
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