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[Eex77]

But Lotto and Dime are the only ones paying for votes?

[sleepless]

But Lotto and Dime are the only ones paying for votes?

Yes, but it would be nice to know what people REALLY think about the listed coins and also it would stop the bashing because someone is paying for the votes

[y3804]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words. 2000 LOT wasn't a big reward, and a lot of people voted because they really wanted LOT to win, but also posted their address in the giveaway section. 2000 LOT isn't enough to deceive someone into voting.

[KeyserSozeMC]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words.

The point is:

People who're voting EAC do it for the following reason:

When eac team was doing the giveaways, they were giving 30-100k of eac. Those EAC have a big price now. Why? Because of good marketing.

LOT has much better marketing ( forget about me, let's say I don't exist ), because people actually see LOT everywhere. Most gambling sites use LOT.
Like www.rapidballs.eu which is known to most people.

People who're using rapidballs, know what profit they can make from 1k LOT.

People who're holding eac, know when to DUMP. They're just waiting a pump to dump it people's face. That's all.

[Eex77]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words. 2000 LOT wasn't a big reward, and a lot of people voted because they really wanted LOT to win, but also posted their address in the giveaway section. 2000 LOT isn't enough to deceive someone into voting.

Actually the only forum really "owned" by the EAC team is the one on bitcointalk, there is earthcointalk which is semi-popular but nobody is offering a single reward there. Paying someone for votes is still paying someone for votes.

[sleepless]

Paying someone for votes is still paying someone for votes.

And that's why I'm still for restarting the vote or making a new one

[KeyserSozeMC]

Paying someone for votes is still paying someone for votes.

And that's why I'm still for restarting the vote or making a new one

LOT will win again. You know why? There can't be 1000 vote topics for the same thing.

[y3804]

Paying someone for votes is still paying someone for votes.

And that's why I'm still for restarting the vote or making a new one

I understand your frustration, but I don't think the OP said anything about paying for votes. (did he argue against it? I didn't read the thread)
If anything, I would immediately start an EAC giveaway for those votes and give yourself a chance to catch up with LOT.

EAC is behind LOT, and if the OP decides that LOT wins based on vote count, then you won't have anything to argue about. They had the most votes, right?

Still 4 days left for this vote thing, plenty of time

[sleepless]

Paying someone for votes is still paying someone for votes.

And that's why I'm still for restarting the vote or making a new one

LOT will win again. You know why? There can't be 1000 vote topics for the same thing.

I know that. And I also know that I repeat myself but I know that LOT will win again. And that's why I would love to restart the vote: To show the EAC fanboys that we'd also win without paying for votes

[Thorgrim]

I voted for LOT today and didn't even know that there was a reward.

I don't think it was a good idea to bribe people to vote for LOT but I doubt it changed the outcome much. Most of the people putting in for the reward were likely going to vote LOT anyway.

BTW I am not going to apply for the reward.

[testbitcoiner]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words. 2000 LOT wasn't a big reward, and a lot of people voted because they really wanted LOT to win, but also posted their address in the giveaway section. 2000 LOT isn't enough to deceive someone into voting.

first of all: people get more than 2000 as a reward to vote here

then EAC has no official forum. the only forum EAC has is here. and no one pays people there, cause EAC is a serious coin.

but it is amazing how you can "just assume" that every one is paying people... tells me a lot about your own moral compass

and thirdly, it was 220 when it was 240 votes. so 20 legit votes at that point. one day later, more of the same people vote with their sock puppets and get more bribes

and lastly: LOT has had its credibility damaged beyond repair. worst of all, the LOT pushers do not even fathom the problem they are causing for their own product.

people who do not know the difference between buying a vote and advertising can neither be trusted nor taken seriously

[Aki4real]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words. 2000 LOT wasn't a big reward, and a lot of people voted because they really wanted LOT to win, but also posted their address in the giveaway section. 2000 LOT isn't enough to deceive someone into voting.

first of all: people get more than 2000 as a reward to vote here

then EAC has no official forum. the only forum EAC has is here. and no one pays people there, cause EAC is a serious coin.

but it is amazing how you can "just assume" that every one is paying people... tells me a lot about your own moral compass

and thirdly, it was 220 when it was 240 votes. so 20 legit votes at that point. one day later, more of the same people vote with their sock puppets and get more bribes

and lastly: LOT has had its credibility damaged beyond repair. worst of all, the LOT pushers do not even fathom the problem they are causing for their own product.

people who do not know the difference between buying a vote and advertising can neither be trusted nor taken seriously

Oh My God..
I have not seen such butthurt in a long time..

Why are you even debating here? You want to bash a coin which has more votes than the coin you are supporting?

Instead of debating, MOBILIZE the people behind your coin. If there are people who believe in EAC they will vote and win!

But if you do not believe there are more than lets say 400-500 people who believe in the coin.. well.. does the coin has spenders enough to be profitable for this organisation to trade in?

Just my 2 cents, dont take it personal..

Good luck!

[y3804]

first of all: people get more than 2000 as a reward to vote here

The amount isn't significant in any case. See how much LOT is worth on Cryptsy at this post time. Even someone with 10 EAC could stock on LOT.
I remember 30k giveaway of EAC. That's about 100x time as much in BTC value

then EAC has no official forum. the only forum EAC has is here. and no one pays people there, cause EAC is a serious coin.

1. EAC does have an official forum, but I was mistaken when I said there was giveaways on there..
2. There's no logic in that underlined statement... Serious competitors who promote their product are seen everywhere, even on a national scale.
As an example, political parties who give out free umbrellas to vote for them. Gives an extra reason to vote for them, which is the same case as LOT.
If EAC doesn't want to play along the rules, fine. But they shouldn't shift the blame on others when they lose. EAC has access to the same toolbox.

but it is amazing how you can "just assume" that every one is paying people... tells me a lot about your own moral compass

I assumed that if EAC guys were smart, they would have choose ways to promote their coin. Turns out it's not the case?
If you think bribing/giveaways/promotion is bad moral, then welcome to the crypto world, where no coin is backed by material value. Where there is profit there is deficit.

and lastly: LOT has had its credibility damaged beyond repair. worst of all, the LOT pushers do not even fathom the problem they are causing for their own product.
people who do not know the difference between buying a vote and advertising can neither be trusted nor taken seriously[/b]

You sure know how to destroy your enemy by using strong statements. Credibility damaged beyond repair. Fathom the problem.
I can't tell if you're serious or trying to provoke LOT users...

Let me tell you. Those guys didn't 'damage their credibility beyond repair'. They still have a credible team and great, ambitious plans just like EAC.
Basically what you're telling me is, a 1000 LOT (whatever the amount was, it's so insignificant) for a vote destroyed their credibility for their future and their product.

What problem are we trying to pinpoint? Promoters who care about their coin? Again, we all have the same toolbox. A very small extra such as 1000 LOT shouldn't deceive someone into voting. It's like an umbrella for a political party.

I'm not a LOT fanboy, but you're just bashing the coin and ranting.
If you see my previous comments on this thread, then you'll see I recommend EAC to start giveaways. Your beliefs don't necessarily match the OP's. If the OP cares about the vote count, then EAC is going to lose.

4 days to catch up, EAC can do it, and again I didn't see the OP arguing against bribing (1000 LOT is a joke, seriously).

[testbitcoiner]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words. 2000 LOT wasn't a big reward, and a lot of people voted because they really wanted LOT to win, but also posted their address in the giveaway section. 2000 LOT isn't enough to deceive someone into voting.

first of all: people get more than 2000 as a reward to vote here

then EAC has no official forum. the only forum EAC has is here. and no one pays people there, cause EAC is a serious coin.

but it is amazing how you can "just assume" that every one is paying people... tells me a lot about your own moral compass

and thirdly, it was 220 when it was 240 votes. so 20 legit votes at that point. one day later, more of the same people vote with their sock puppets and get more bribes

and lastly: LOT has had its credibility damaged beyond repair. worst of all, the LOT pushers do not even fathom the problem they are causing for their own product.

people who do not know the difference between buying a vote and advertising can neither be trusted nor taken seriously

Oh My God..
I have not seen such butthurt in a long time..

Why are you even debating here? You want to bash a coin which has more votes than the coin you are supporting?

Instead of debating, MOBILIZE the people behind your coin. If there are people who believe in EAC they will vote and win!

But if you do not believe there are more than lets say 400-500 people who believe in the coin.. well.. does the coin has spenders enough to be profitable for this organisation to trade in?

Just my 2 cents, dont take it personal..

Good luck!

it is amazing how you people always jump to the conclusion someone is mad or "butthurt" when someone calls you guys out.

it's classic deflection: if I was "butthurt" it's me who has a problem. so you just took yourself out of the equation.

what's really going on is that some people just think what you do is contemptible and deserves to be called out.

so why do you have such a hard time with the concept of contempt?
cause that would mean that you're the guys with the problem and people think a vote is a vote and not job you get hired for.

look: everyone knows this has become a joke. EAC has already won the real vote. earthcoin devs even told people not to come here any more since we've a) already won (what I just said) and b) that this is all manipulated anyway

so the voting is over for me and for EAC people.

what is left is just people having fun calling you guys what you are: cheaters, losers and overall undemocratic.

some people just like to do that. and hey, I don't even need to get paid for that.

[y3804]

look: everyone knows this has become a joke. EAC has already won the real vote. earthcoin devs even told people not to come here any more since we've a) already won (what I just said) and b) that this is all manipulated anyway

See my previous post. If you believe EAC has won, fine. But your beliefs don't necessarily match the OP's beliefs. If he cares about vote count, then EAC loses.

BTW the real vote is here. EAC is behind.

Who cares about the Earthcoin devs. They aren't related in any way to the OP.

If the OP desired to open a vote poll, then he knows how things could turn out. There could be manipulation, there would be promotion, etc. Wait... he did open a poll.

[Aki4real]

Everyone is ranting about LOT. What is funny is that there are 360+ votes, and no more than ~220 votes that have been 'paid'. There are still 140 legit votes. I bet EAC does the same on their forums (not on BCT, of course).

As I said, I believe people are smart. I believe they are entitled to their opinions. If they want to vote for LOT, then let them do it. Giveaway or not, they have the final words. 2000 LOT wasn't a big reward, and a lot of people voted because they really wanted LOT to win, but also posted their address in the giveaway section. 2000 LOT isn't enough to deceive someone into voting.

first of all: people get more than 2000 as a reward to vote here

then EAC has no official forum. the only forum EAC has is here. and no one pays people there, cause EAC is a serious coin.

but it is amazing how you can "just assume" that every one is paying people... tells me a lot about your own moral compass

and thirdly, it was 220 when it was 240 votes. so 20 legit votes at that point. one day later, more of the same people vote with their sock puppets and get more bribes

and lastly: LOT has had its credibility damaged beyond repair. worst of all, the LOT pushers do not even fathom the problem they are causing for their own product.

people who do not know the difference between buying a vote and advertising can neither be trusted nor taken seriously

Oh My God..
I have not seen such butthurt in a long time..

Why are you even debating here? You want to bash a coin which has more votes than the coin you are supporting?

Instead of debating, MOBILIZE the people behind your coin. If there are people who believe in EAC they will vote and win!

But if you do not believe there are more than lets say 400-500 people who believe in the coin.. well.. does the coin has spenders enough to be profitable for this organisation to trade in?

Just my 2 cents, dont take it personal..

Good luck!

it is amazing how you people always jump to the conclusion someone is mad or "butthurt" when someone calls you guys out.

it's classic deflection: if I was "butthurt" it's me who has a problem. so you just took yourself out of the equation.

what's really going on is that some people just think what you do is contemptible and deserves to be called out.

so why do you have such a hard time with the concept of contempt?
cause that would mean that you're the guys with the problem and people who think a vote is a vote and not job you get hired for.

look: everyone knows this has become a joke. EAC has already won the real vote. earthcoin devs even told people not to come here any more since we've a) already won (what I just said) and b) that this is all manipulated anyway

so the voting is over for me and for EAC people.

what is left is just people having fun calling you guys what you are: cheaters, losers and overall undemocratic.

some people just like to do that. and hey, I don't even need to get paid for that.

just.... LOL

Good luck.. "winners"

[pr0d1gy]

I mean honestly, this was just a vote to see what coins people would like to see our current and future merchants accept. But it tends to always blow out of proportion... We cant stop any cheating, dishonest voting, paid voting, etc... but it speaks for itself. The vote will end Friday, but we will look over all the paid and non paid votes to factor in vs the real votes.

[KeyserSozeMC]

I mean honestly, this was just a vote to see what coins people would like to see our current and future merchants accept. But it tends to always blow out of proportion... We cant stop any cheating, dishonest voting, paid voting, etc... but it speaks for itself. The vote will end Friday, but we will look over all the paid and non paid votes to factor in vs the real votes.

Well, let me give You a tip.

I can get more than 1000 votes on any coin. None will know it, does it still make fair? I could do that, but I wont
( And I wont have to give away even one coin. I can do that by myself in 1 day )

[pr0d1gy]

I mean, what will any of it accomplish... This is a merchant's tool. This wont influence the price of any coins on any market. Then the current merchants read all this, and decided if they want to even use the coin in their store.

[KeyserSozeMC]

I mean, what will any of it accomplish... This is a merchant's tool. This wont influence the price of any coins on any market. Then the current merchants read all this, and decided if they want to even use the coin in their store.

Make a new vote poll. Please.

You know what's the funniest part? 90% of people think CoinPayments is a exchange site.
You know what's funnier? I'm ADVERTISING.

Even if LOT ''loses'' this battle, IT WINS. You know why? Because you can't win in a game You can't understand.

Out of here

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