Bitcoin Forum
December 05, 2016, 02:45:54 PM *
News: To be able to use the next phase of the beta forum software, please ensure that your email address is correct/functional.
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Experimental alt-currency needs pools from start. Would you run one ?  (Read 954 times)
Lolcust
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 112


Hillariously voracious


View Profile
August 27, 2011, 11:15:18 PM
 #1

Okay, here's the deal.

Assume that there exists a goal-driven* experimental alt-coin fork (by goal-driven, I mean that it has a stated useful and theoretically achievable goal beyond "giving its author a shitton of coins to dump when their value goes from penny to several" Wink, namely, goal of eventually achieving functionality that would permit a particular kind of service that would be problematic to implement with any degree of decentralization via existing forks).

The architecture is largely dependent upon several (assume, say, above 5, maybe more) "pools" being present in the experimental fork's network at any given time, from the start.

The question is, are there people willing to set up and run a pool for such an experiment?

P.S.:
It doesn't have to be a massive multi-server setup, since expecting stable participation of large amount of minepower in yet-another-fork-coin (even if it strives to achieve genuine new functionality) is somewhat overly optimistic IMO.
Still, a decent multi-core rig or several per pool would be greatly appreciated.

P.P.S.:
Would it be worthwhile for me to post a similar question in the Project Development, or would such act disagree too much with good manners and forum rules ?
Also, how do I make polls here ?




Geist Geld, the experimental cryptocurrency, is ready for yet another SolidCoin collapse Wink

Feed the Lolcust!
NMC: N6YQFkH9Gn9CTm4mpGwuLB5zLzqWTWFw67
BTC: 15F8xbgRBA1XZ4hmtdFDUasroa2A5rYg8M
GEG: gK5Lx6ypWgr69Gw9yGzE6dsA7kcuCRZRK
1480949154
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480949154

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480949154
Reply with quote  #2

1480949154
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1480949154
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480949154

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480949154
Reply with quote  #2

1480949154
Report to moderator
sd
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 730



View Profile
August 28, 2011, 07:26:49 AM
 #2

What's the new functionality here? If it's something people believe in then people will setup pools.
Chris Acheson
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 266


View Profile
August 28, 2011, 07:41:46 AM
 #3

Why do you need pools?  Why not just solo mine it?
Tomatocage
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1526

brb keeping up with the Kardashians


View Profile
August 28, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
 #4

Also, how do I make polls here ?


THIS SPOT FOR RENT* | GPG ID: 4880D85C | 1% Escrow | 8% IPO/ICO Escrow services Temporarily Closed | Bitcointalk is the ONLY place where I use this name (No Skype/IRC/YIM/AIM/etc) | 13CsmTqGNwvFXb7tD9yFvJcEYCDTB8wQTS | Beware of these SCAM sites! | *Sponsored Link
antares
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518


View Profile
August 28, 2011, 03:34:40 PM
 #5

Well, I'd like to donate some pooled mining setup.
Question is if your blockchain is pool-safe(i.e. NOT like namecoin, more lilke the solidcoin chain).
Lolcust
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 112


Hillariously voracious


View Profile
August 28, 2011, 06:36:30 PM
 #6


Oh noes, someone can't find where the goddamn poll button / checkbox / whatever is in this particular forum, that truly disqualifies one from experimenting with open source software, right ? Wink

What's the new functionality here? If it's something people believe in then people will setup pools.

Sekkrit until I finish fooling around and experimenting (it very well might be that I abandon the idea at this point, so I don't want to get people too exited until I am reasonably certain that I can deliver something )

But you see, to even have a shot at the thing I have in mind, I would need to increase centralization somewhat, hence the desire to have pools in it from day one (EDIT: I don't want to use licensed mining, as it seems to me that it is liable to cause a PKI hell of some sort)

Well, I'd like to donate some pooled mining setup.
Question is if your blockchain is pool-safe(i.e. NOT like namecoin, more lilke the solidcoin chain).

Well, yes, given the crazy difficulty rollercoasters that forks are prone to, I'll have to implement some changes to diff adjust rate, though I'm still undecided as to what values should I use (I'm gonna play around with that in my VM net for quite some time)

However, I'm not sure I want an asymmetric retargeting scheme a-la solidcoin's "pool safe" approach (I want to be, for lack of better term, "pool friendly", since I need to ascertain a limited degree of centralization)...  I am quite concerned about difficulty deadlocks when powerful mining pools leave, but  not so much about diff rising rapidly when they arrive... Perhaps I am wrong and I should be concerned about that, too ?

Geist Geld, the experimental cryptocurrency, is ready for yet another SolidCoin collapse Wink

Feed the Lolcust!
NMC: N6YQFkH9Gn9CTm4mpGwuLB5zLzqWTWFw67
BTC: 15F8xbgRBA1XZ4hmtdFDUasroa2A5rYg8M
GEG: gK5Lx6ypWgr69Gw9yGzE6dsA7kcuCRZRK
sd
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 730



View Profile
August 28, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
 #7


Sekkrit until I finish fooling around and experimenting (it very well might be that I abandon the idea at this point, so I don't want to get people too exited until I am reasonably certain that I can deliver something )

But you see, to even have a shot at the thing I have in mind, I would need to increase centralization somewhat, hence the desire to have pools in it from day one (EDIT: I don't want to use licensed mining, as it seems to me that it is liable to cause a PKI hell of some sort)

Anyone that lived though the project ginger hype no longer believes in anything developed in secret.

You can tell us what it is or we will blindly, and possibly wrongly, assume it's not useful.
Lolcust
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 112


Hillariously voracious


View Profile
August 29, 2011, 09:10:41 PM
 #8


Sekkrit until I finish fooling around and experimenting (it very well might be that I abandon the idea at this point, so I don't want to get people too exited until I am reasonably certain that I can deliver something )

But you see, to even have a shot at the thing I have in mind, I would need to increase centralization somewhat, hence the desire to have pools in it from day one (EDIT: I don't want to use licensed mining, as it seems to me that it is liable to cause a PKI hell of some sort)

Anyone that lived though the project ginger hype no longer believes in anything developed in secret.

You can tell us what it is or we will blindly, and possibly wrongly, assume it's not useful.


Well, sadly I dunno what that ginger project is (got links?) but in my case it's basically an issue of not making any claims before I am reasonably convinced I can at least make a try at doing something of use, so as to minimize embarrassment if I can not.

Current situation is best described as "lolcust is fooling around with Multicoin and I0coin code, trying to cobble together something that would be at least mildly curious"

Geist Geld, the experimental cryptocurrency, is ready for yet another SolidCoin collapse Wink

Feed the Lolcust!
NMC: N6YQFkH9Gn9CTm4mpGwuLB5zLzqWTWFw67
BTC: 15F8xbgRBA1XZ4hmtdFDUasroa2A5rYg8M
GEG: gK5Lx6ypWgr69Gw9yGzE6dsA7kcuCRZRK
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!