BUYER BEWARE: BITCO MINERS SCAM

[bitpop]

Lol you should have known it's a scam when it says in stock

[Paulvis]

Hey dear Community,

I ordered a Contract with 157 Ghs and got no Answer or anything like that. I paid with Btc. Is there any Way how i can get my Coins back?

Sorry for my bad English...

They've probably already abandoned their site, but I had a 25GHS contract with them that I had paid with BTC and I argued round and round with whoever the person was that was answering the sales@bitcominers.com emails. I guess they finally got tired of me bitching at them and they gave me back my BTC..

I was about to drop $2300 on a 3 month 1THS contract but hesitated and only got the 25GHS for starters.. Glad I didn't give them $2300..

Oh gee whizz,  I've just gone and spent my one and only BitCoin on this scam today, is there really nothing I can do to get my money back?

[Paulvis]

Lol you should have known it's a scam when it says in stock

Well I'm glad you think me losing my cyber grubstake is funny but I don't even know what you mean by that "in stock" comment.

I do realise I'm a total newbie in a very wild west world and I should have known better, I guess I'll have to  mark it down as a very expensive lesson.

[Ritual]

Paulvis, I don't think that was aimed at you or in reference to you...that seemed to be a comment on the first post, which was to do with buying machinery. The poster is laughing that a company trying a scam and getting caught out.

Sorry for your loss mate, it hurts worse when you are starting out, even though the amount may be smaller :/

[bitpop]

Lol you should have known it's a scam when it says in stock

Well I'm glad you think me losing my cyber grubstake is funny but I don't even know what you mean by that "in stock" comment.

I do realise I'm a total newbie in a very wild west world and I should have known better, I guess I'll have to  mark it down as a very expensive lesson.

Sorry. Typically miners don't ship for a long time and most of those are scams too.

The only legitimate company i know is knc and they could flip any time.

[Paulvis]

Paulvis, I don't think that was aimed at you or in reference to you...that seemed to be a comment on the first post, which was to do with buying machinery. The poster is laughing that a company trying a scam and getting caught out.

Sorry for your loss mate, it hurts worse when you are starting out, even though the amount may be smaller :/

You're right it wasn't aimed at me, sorry about that, I just needed to lash out at someone in my childish anger. Someone posted earlier that BitCoin is a world full of speculators, scamsters and idiots, well I guess I know which camp I'm in. Ouch

[bitpop]

It's always better to buy Bitcoin and hold it

[Paulvis]

Hey dear Community,

I ordered a Contract with 157 Ghs and got no Answer or anything like that. I paid with Btc. Is there any Way how i can get my Coins back?

Sorry for my bad English...

They've probably already abandoned their site, but I had a 25GHS contract with them that I had paid with BTC and I argued round and round with whoever the person was that was answering the sales@bitcominers.com emails. I guess they finally got tired of me bitching at them and they gave me back my BTC..

I was about to drop $2300 on a 3 month 1THS contract but hesitated and only got the 25GHS for starters.. Glad I didn't give them $2300..

Hi there, I just sent these guys my one and only bitcoin and now realise I've probably been scammed too, I'd love to know what exactly you said to them and how many emails you had to send to get your BTC's returned.


 

[Paulvis]

So are there any legitimate mining contract companies?

[suzukii]

Greets everyone.

Wow, I'm glad I decided to check on this company.  I was about to plunk down some serious USD's with them.  I've read all that's been said here & till this very moment they are still emailing me.  I've been pretty upfront with them & their e-mails are at best broken english replies, (as if mine were any better if it wasn't for spell checker magic you'd know).

Here's a bit of my correspondence with Mr. Brian Lewish:


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(1st -email)

To: H. Santi
Sent: 01/21/2014


Hello Sir,

We are manufacturers of this miners.
Bitco Forcer 4TH/s miners comes with embedded Raspberry Pi control module, pre-installed Linus OS and miming software. Of course each unit has independent power supply.
To start mining, you only need a monitor, keyboard, mouse and internet connection via Ethernet. In fact, you need 5 minuted to setup and start mining.
Power consumption of Forcer 4TH/s miner is 2550 Watts.

Our miners can be used for Bitcoin mining only and do not support other cryptocurrencies.

For our wholesale buyers (5+ units) we provide 24/7 tech support.
Other customers can contact our tech specialists via email.

Please pay attention, at this moment we have only 12 of Forcer 4TH/s units available in stock.


Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining





On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:07 AM, H.Santi <blahblahblah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Greetings.  I'm interested in one of your Bitco Forcer 4TH/s Miners if indeed you have one in stock.  I have a few questions first, though if you would.

I need to know if this is plug & play upon receiving it besides configuring the pools?  
What else would I need to get this going? Do I need to purchase any additional hardware such as power supplies & how many?  
What is the overall wattage use?  I'm asking because I didn't seem to find this information on the website.
Which miner software is it compatible with?

Does it come with miner software as part of the setup ready to get mining within minutes of receipt?

Does it support Litecoin mining?

Do you have a link as to where the specifications of this model  on a website?

Are you a reseller?

Can I call someone if & when I purchase it & I have problems that require almost immediate attention for support?

Thank you for your time?




Regards,


H. Santi

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(2nd -email)

To: H.Santi
Sent: 01/21/2014
Picture of Bitco Miners Sales
Sir,

Our miners support only Bitcoin mining and will not have possibility to be upgraded for mining of other cryptocurrencies.
Power supply is build-in.
Each unit comes with power switch adapted, so you can use it with 115V or 220V standard.
All important facts about miner provided on the product page (http://www.bitcominers.com/shop/bitco-forcer-4-ths-rack-mount-asic-miner/). If you need additional specifications, please let me know what exactly you need to know.


Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:24 AM, H.Santi <blahblahblah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the response. Mr. Lewish.

I am paying attention.
That's ok if you run out of stock. I won't irresponsibly spend my money without asking the proper questions.
Now, I have more questions.
I don't believe all of my questions were answered on my 1st email. Please re-read it.

Is there any possibility of this miner being upgrade-able in the future to support Litecoin or any other coins?

Is the power supply built-in?

Is this power supply provided in the unit using a 115V or 220V? ( I hope not 220V).

Is there a web page listing all the facts about this miner? I can't find one.

Thank you for understanding.

Regards,
H. Santi
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(3rd -email)

To: Bitco Miners Sales
Cc: H. Santi
Sent: 01/22/2014

OK thank you for the information.  I guess clientele, like myself, ready to buy are not serious enough for your company.  
This is a bad business practice to assume that a potential client is not serious just because, I, as a potential customer, am asking valid questions of a business, yours, before I give you my money, especially an unsecured way, via wire bank transfers.  
If my questions are in anyway putting you of your way. Let me know & I'll just stop looking at your company as a serious business like KncMiners.
As you said to me before in an e-mail, pay attention to how I'm writing to you since this is the way you're writing me.  
I don't know if it's a language barrier you have in English in expressing yourself, but this e-mail I'm responding to was in bad taste coming from you.

Again, if it's a language barrier, then my apologies.

PS: If we're to continue to attempt a possible transaction between us please answer the following:

What is your address info in the U.K?  I need to research your company before monies of this magnitude can exchange hands.
I have friends over there that maybe could make a direct purchase from you.  I'm in the U.S. states.  Are you?

Can I pay you via a check or credit card?  I will not do do a bank transfer unless the money can be placed in escrow.

Good day. & thank you for your time.


Regards,
H. Sant.

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[dexu]

Hi
Any purchased equipment arrives to the customers ?

[Group Bitcoin]

So are there any legitimate mining contract companies?

Yes groupbitcoin.com

I happen to know it's genuine because I run it !

[digitalminer407]

OMG...........I wish I found this sooner.   I am really disgusted to hear this news.  Enough to make me feel sick.

I am such a fool.......this is the 2nd scam I have gone through dealing with bitcoins and mining equipment.  I bet everything I had on this stuff and lost it all.   Might as well pack up a suitcase and become a homeless bum.  Bitcoins have become a curse to me.......they really have.   I've lost all this money and still don't have a single bitcoin in my wallet.  Makes me wanna cry.

 

[Martazek]

Buddy sorry for that, but in this time you HAVE to be searchin at internet or wait till somebody make review with positive response. Fuckin bitcominers, hope they put them in jail.

And as always: it is too good to be a true

[WimP]

Ehm is anyone already scammed by them? I believe that everyone is still waiting within acceptable terms isn't it?

[dexu]

My status of order is processing..

Ordered January 22, 2014 and no answer.

I let myself be fooled ..

[Paulvis]

So are there any legitimate mining contract companies?

Yes groupbitcoin.com

I happen to know it's genuine because I run it !

Well you look good but how do I know you're not just another scammer?
Does anyone else from this site have a good word to say about you?
If they do and when I get another BTC, I'll probably give you a go so thanks
I think

[Paulvis]

OMG...........I wish I found this sooner.   I am really disgusted to hear this news.  Enough to make me feel sick.

I am such a fool.......this is the 2nd scam I have gone through dealing with bitcoins and mining equipment.  I bet everything I had on this stuff and lost it all.   Might as well pack up a suitcase and become a homeless bum.  Bitcoins have become a curse to me.......they really have.   I've lost all this money and still don't have a single bitcoin in my wallet.  Makes me wanna cry.

 

I feel the same way mate boo hoo…

I worked so hard to get me my first bitcoin and then just gave it away to a scammer without thinking. I just can't believe how easily I let my guard down on this, it wasn't that it seemed too good to be true but just so good that I had to take action now!!

And wow Google still allowing their ads to run even though they know it's a scam, that's just wrong!!

[MCC2014]

HELLO,

After reading all the stuff here, I was curious if Bitcominers give a reaction.
So I ordered 1TH on there page and want to have a invoice for my payment.

This is the result from last week, I want to share it with you.

MY ADVISE, DONT ORDER ANYTHING WITH BITCO MINERS!!!

Hello Sir,

I'm sorry about this delay.
Starting from yesterday, we temporary do not accept Bank Transfers because of frequent cases of fraud activity with Bank Transfer payments. Now we accept Bitcoins only.


Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining



On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:27 AM, MCC2014 wrote:
Hello Brian,

I did not get a reaction on my last mail.
We need your company nr and VAT nr, otherwise we need to pay VAT for the goods you deliver.
(mining contract)

Best Regards
MCC2014


From: MCC2014
To: sales@bitcominers.com
Subject: RE: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:26:17 +0100



Hello Brian,

What is your company nr and VATnr?

Best regards
MCC2014

From: sales@bitcominers.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:14:23 +0000
Subject: Re: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014
To: MCC2014

Sir,

Yes, we know that some person who don't even our customer and annoyed because he did not got what he want on his own conditions has posted a pointless remarks. It seems like he just wants to promote his Bitcoin club. Please do not take it seriously.

Please find attached invoice.


Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining



On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM,MCC2014 wrote:

Hello Brian Lewish,

I read a lot of negative stuf about your company, WHY??
Can you provide me with a invoice (or pro-invoice) I need this because I pay from my company bankaccount
and only a order isn't enough.

Best regards

MCC2014

From: sales@bitcominers.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:52:16 +0000
Subject: Re: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014
To: MCC2014


Hello MCC2014,

Please make a bank transfer using details below.

Janis Construction Ltd.
IBAN: GB93 BARC 2095 6100 6377 34
BIC/Swift code: BARCGB22
Bank Name: BARCLAYS BANK PLC
Branch address: 46A Ballards Lane, Finchley, London, N3 2BB, United Kingdom

*some countries requires 11-digit Swift Code. In this case please use BARCGB22XXX

Payment reference: Order #xxxxx

Amount: $2,250.00

After sending of bank transfer, please let us know (and send the copy of receipt, if it is possible), so we can track your payment and proceed the order as soon as possible.



Best regards,
Brian Lewish
--
Sales Department,
Bitco Miners



www.bitcominers.com - Advanced hardware for Bitcoin mining



On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM, MCC2014 wrote:

Hello,

Can you provide me with the bankdetails, and give me a call!!

Best regards

MCC2014


Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:51:28 +0000
To: MCC2014
From: sales@bitcominers.com
Subject: Your Bitco Miners order receipt from January 27, 2014


Thank you for your order
Your order has been received and is now being processed. Your order details are shown below for your reference:
Please contact our Sales Department (sales@bitcominers.com) to get the payment details for the Bank Transfer.
Include your order number in payment reference/description (“Order #XXXX”)

[pavelioo]

Anyone received a mining contract payment, product, or refund recently?